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Post by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT) » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:48 pm

Just wondering how Maryland was UG at ICT but not at ACF
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sat Apr 18, 2015 1:54 pm

merv1618 wrote:Just wondering how Maryland was UG at ICT but not at ACF
NAQT and ACF have different regulations for undergraduate status.
The ACF Rules wrote:11. For collegiate tournaments which recognize high-finishing teams and/or individuals of “undergraduate” status, an “undergraduate” player is a player who did not receive a BA or equivalent or higher degree prior to the academic year in which the tournament is taking place, and meets EITHER or BOTH of the following conditions:

11.1. The player graduated from high school in an academic year four or fewer years prior to the year in which the tournament is taking place

11.2. The player did not participate in any collegiate or open academic quizbowl tournaments before the fall semester of the academic year three years prior to the year in which the tournament is taking place
The NAQT Rules wrote:Students qualify to play in Division I Undergraduate if they meet both of these requirements:

They do not possess a degree at the Bachelor’s level or higher from any post-secondary educational institution.
They have not completed their fourth distinct academic year of competition in NAQT collegiate championship events (that is, SCTs and ICTs).
Dan Puma meets NAQT's definition but not ACF's, so Maryland is not considered an undergraduate team for ACF purposes.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:40 am

The top bracket is currently displaying third in the playoff stats; that's something we'll have to fix after the tournament. Similarly, Weddings and a Funeral should be the last bracket.
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Post by jonpin » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:03 am

In full, the order of the playoff brackets is: (12) Monkeys; (8) Crazy Nights; (8) Days a Week; (8) Heads...; (8) Legged Freaks; (4) Weddings...

It's probably easiest for now to just label each bracket with the place they're shooting for, i.e. "Monkeys (1st place)", "Crazy Nights (13th place)" etc.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:16 am

jonpin wrote:In full, the order of the playoff brackets is: (12) Monkeys; (8) Crazy Nights; (8) Days a Week; (8) Heads...; (8) Legged Freaks; (4) Weddings...

It's probably easiest for now to just label each bracket with the place they're shooting for, i.e. "Monkeys (1st place)", "Crazy Nights (13th place)" etc.
This shall be reflected in the next upload. We figured out what happened; the roster file had the teams alphabetically, which moved the brackets around to follow their teams. Fixing the display order will require reassigning pretty much all the teams, so look for that to happen most likely tomorrow.
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Post by Mike Bentley » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:18 am

I hear that going into the last playoff round, Chicago, Maryland and Penn all have 1 loss and are the three teams still in contention for first place.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:21 am

Northwestern defeated MIT B 195-130 in the D2 final, which will be entered in the stats as a Round 21 game.

Yale A beat Berkeley A 225-175 for a spot in the UG third place game. That game will appear as a Round 20 game, and the UG third place game will appear as a Round 21 game.

We've caught the UVA-Chicago typo and it will be fixed at next upload.
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Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:59 am

A one-game overall final between Penn A and Chicago A will take place in Angell Auditorium A at 1 PM.

Stanford B has the advantage in a UG final against Illinois starting now.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:02 pm

Matthew J wrote:A one-game overall final between Penn A and Chicago A will take place in Angell Auditorium A at 1 PM.

Stanford B has the advantage in a UG final against Illinois starting now.
The UG Final Series will appear in the stats as Round 23 and 25 because of the packets being used. Illinois A won the first game 305-150.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:14 pm

Stanford B won the second game of the Undergrad final 180-110 over Illinois. The one-game overall final between Penn A and Chicago A has begun. I'll upload those in the playoff stats file before I leave; combined stats may end up waiting until tomorrow after our long drive back to VA.
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Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Sun Apr 19, 2015 1:45 pm

The following teams will take home trophies this year:

Overall
1 - Penn A
2 - Chicago A
3 - Maryland

Undergrad
1 - Stanford B
2 - Illinois
3 - Yale

DII
1 - Northwestern
2 - MIT B

Congratulations to all!
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Post by Senator_Jay » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:36 pm

Awesome tournament! On behalf of McMaster Quizbowl, I'd like to extend a huge thank you to everyone who ran and staffed this tournament and made it run so smoothly. The packets were fun, the organization was solid (from what we saw), and you even ensured that it was a beautiful weekend for some good Quizbowl.
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Post by grapesmoker » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:43 pm

Senator_Jay wrote:Awesome tournament! On behalf of McMaster Quizbowl, I'd like to extend a huge thank you to everyone who ran and staffed this tournament and made it run so smoothly. The packets were fun, the organization was solid (from what we saw), and you even ensured that it was a beautiful weekend for some good Quizbowl.
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Post by jonpin » Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:55 pm

grapesmoker wrote:
Senator_Jay wrote:Awesome tournament! On behalf of McMaster Quizbowl, I'd like to extend a huge thank you to everyone who ran and staffed this tournament and made it run so smoothly. The packets were fun, the organization was solid (from what we saw), and you even ensured that it was a beautiful weekend for some good Quizbowl.
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From hundreds of miles away, no less.
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Post by Mike Bentley » Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:55 am

Audio recordings of the games can be found here: http://doc-ent.com/qbc/ACFNationals2015/
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Post by grapesmoker » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:20 am

Mike Bentley wrote:Audio recordings of the games can be found here: http://doc-ent.com/qbc/ACFNationals2015/
I will also have video recordings of a number of matches later this week. Specifically, I have recordings of all Sunday matches played in Ryan's room and, I think, two Saturday matches from somewhere. I also have video of the awards ceremony.

With regard to video, I ask once again that you let me know if you would like not to have video of you on the internet. I want to respect everyone's privacy on this matter, so please do let me know at grapesmoker@gmail.com if you want to have those parts edited out. The video really only contains the teams and people who received the awards and the people who handed them out.
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Post by tabstop » Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:47 pm

So, stats. There are five reports: prelims before and after tiebreakers, playoffs before and after final series (overall, UG, UG 3rd, and D2), and all the games in one glob. Everything should be ordered properly now, and maybe polished a little bit (but not too much).

I'm relying on people's inherent vanity to find errors in their own stats, because I'm not going to go looking for them. I'll be able to crosscheck with the scoresheets until the start of next week, when they'll wend their way to Jerry's hands.
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Post by MLafer » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:31 pm

tabstop wrote:So, stats. There are five reports: prelims before and after tiebreakers, playoffs before and after final series (overall, UG, UG 3rd, and D2), and all the games in one glob. Everything should be ordered properly now, and maybe polished a little bit (but not too much).

I'm relying on people's inherent vanity to find errors in their own stats, because I'm not going to go looking for them. I'll be able to crosscheck with the scoresheets until the start of next week, when they'll wend their way to Jerry's hands.
One thing that was noticed last night was in UCF's game against UCLA, it shows UCF getting 11 tossups with 0 bonus points which seems unlikely.
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Post by jonpin » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:45 pm

MLafer wrote:
tabstop wrote:So, stats. There are five reports: prelims before and after tiebreakers, playoffs before and after final series (overall, UG, UG 3rd, and D2), and all the games in one glob. Everything should be ordered properly now, and maybe polished a little bit (but not too much).

I'm relying on people's inherent vanity to find errors in their own stats, because I'm not going to go looking for them. I'll be able to crosscheck with the scoresheets until the start of next week, when they'll wend their way to Jerry's hands.
One thing that was noticed last night was in UCF's game against UCLA, it shows UCF getting 11 tossups with 0 bonus points which seems unlikely.
And not only UCLA scoring 0 points, but fielding 0 players:
UCF (UG) 110, UCLA (UG) 0
UCF (UG): McKinnie Sizemore (Sr) 5 0 50, Cody Johansen (So) 1 0 10, Casey Bindas (Sr) 4 0 40, Peter Torres (Fr) 1 0 10
UCLA (UG):
Bonuses: UCF (UG) 11 0 0.00, UCLA (UG) 0 0 0.00
It's a round 17 game.
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Post by Jason Cheng » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:20 pm

That's actually not a stats error--UCLA was just late on Sunday
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Post by Mewto55555 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:38 pm

There's an error in Virginia v. Columbia. It records them as having answered 21 tossups correctly.
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Post by CaseyB » Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:08 pm

MLafer wrote:
One thing that was noticed last night was in UCF's game against UCLA, it shows UCF getting 11 tossups with 0 bonus points which seems unlikely.
We definitely got some bonus points in that game. I seem to remember the scorekeeper saying the final score was 210-0.
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Post by tabstop » Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:17 am

CaseyB wrote:
MLafer wrote:
One thing that was noticed last night was in UCF's game against UCLA, it shows UCF getting 11 tossups with 0 bonus points which seems unlikely.
We definitely got some bonus points in that game. I seem to remember the scorekeeper saying the final score was 210-0.
That's what line 20 of the scoresheet says. (It's not what the final score box says, but in this case I'm happy to go with line 20 instead.)
Mewto55555 wrote:There's an error in Virginia v. Columbia. It records them as having answered 21 tossups correctly.
I've got this changed in my copy, which will find its way to the web at some point in the near future.

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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:18 am

Hey everyone,

I'll be reading the unheard-by-everyone-but-Stanford-B-and-UIUC Finals 2 packet on the IRC at 8:30 pm Central tomorrow night. Come to #quizbowl; I'll announce the room we'll actually be reading in there.
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Post by Mnemosyne » Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:00 pm

Auks Ran Ova wrote:Hey everyone,

I'll be reading the unheard-by-everyone-but-Stanford-B-and-UIUC Finals 2 packet on the IRC at 8:30 pm Central tomorrow night. Come to #quizbowl; I'll announce the room we'll actually be reading in there.
This is happening tonight, Wednesday, right? (It's kind of vague since you posted at 1 AM)
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:02 pm

Mnemosyne wrote:
Auks Ran Ova wrote:Hey everyone,

I'll be reading the unheard-by-everyone-but-Stanford-B-and-UIUC Finals 2 packet on the IRC at 8:30 pm Central tomorrow night. Come to #quizbowl; I'll announce the room we'll actually be reading in there.
This is happening tonight, Wednesday, right? (It's kind of vague since you posted at 1 AM)
Yes, that's correct. Sorry, should've clarified!
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Post by grapesmoker » Mon Apr 27, 2015 4:08 pm

I'm now in the process of transcoding and uploading various match videos to YouTube. It'll probably take a few days to do all of them, but watch this post for links to the videos, which will also be linked to (eventually) from the ACF website.
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Post by grapesmoker » Wed May 06, 2015 2:40 pm

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Keep 'em coming, Jerry
Sorry, I got derailed by another thing. I should have a few more up today and tomorrow.
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Post by grapesmoker » Wed May 06, 2015 9:26 pm

Three more videos up. Probably another 3 to go, it looks like. Hopefully tomorrow.
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Fri May 08, 2015 7:02 pm

Virginia vs Columbia has 21 tossups played in the stats.
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Post by tabstop » Fri May 08, 2015 11:31 pm

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Virginia vs Columbia has 21 tossups played in the stats.
It's correct in the overall, but not in the playoffs, so I will get that fixed in the near future.
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Sat May 09, 2015 11:08 pm

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Keep 'em coming, Jerry
Almost thereeeeeeeeee
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Post by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT) » Sun May 10, 2015 2:17 pm

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:
The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Keep 'em coming, Jerry
Almost thereeeeeeeeee
Stay on target
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Post by grapesmoker » Mon May 11, 2015 1:02 pm

merv1618 wrote:
The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:
The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Keep 'em coming, Jerry
Almost thereeeeeeeeee
Stay on target
Finals and awards up.
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Post by Nabonidus » Wed May 13, 2015 6:23 pm

I'd like to thank my perfidious teammate Joe for going out of his way to snitch on my grad status and ensure I wouldn't receive any form of undue recognition
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Post by ThisIsMyUsername » Sat May 23, 2015 10:20 pm

There are still more videos left, right?
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Re: ACF Nationals - Ann Arbor, MI, 04/18-19/2015 - main thre

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Wed May 27, 2015 5:21 pm

Yes please post anything you have left!
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Re: ACF Nationals - Ann Arbor, MI, 04/18-19/2015 - main thre

Post by wd4gdz » Wed May 27, 2015 6:50 pm

Sorry if I missed a post about this, but will the packets be posted online soon?
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Re: ACF Nationals - Ann Arbor, MI, 04/18-19/2015 - main thre

Post by grapesmoker » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:15 pm

I'll double check and see if there's anything left. I was under the impression that I had gone through all of them.
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