The Guns of August: CO History Doubles

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The Guns of August: CO History Doubles

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CO History Doubles: The Guns of August will be held FRIDAY, AUGUST 3, the night before the Chicago Open main event.

I'm in the process of writing the questions. The current plan is for teams of 2 to play on mini-packets of 15 tossups and no bonuses.

If you are certain to play (not "I will play if somebody buys me a $500 ticket to Chicago", and not "I will play if you add some literature questions") please post here, so I can get some logistically useful data on that.

Thanks,
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If this is Saturday night or really late on Friday night I'll play. Otherwise, I'll probably be on a plane.
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I will play. If you hate Asia I will probably make a pretty good teammate.
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I will also play.
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I will play.
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I'm always in.
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Me too.
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Of course I'll play.
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I will be playing and I already have a mystery teammate.
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Of course, I'll play.
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Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed »

With the addition of one person who signed up by email, the field for this tournament is now either 10 or 11 people, depending on whether or not Matt Weiner's "mystery teammate" is somebody who posted in this thread or some random dude.

That means we should have at least 5 teams, which should go a ways to help justify our existence to mean old Mr. Teitler.
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Is there any chance of upping the tossup count to 20 or adding bonuses? Not that it's a criticism, as your undertaking this tournament after it seemed doomed is very admirable, but 15 tossups seems really, really short. I personally wouldn't be opposed to writing 5/5 or something per player, though other people might not agree.
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Adding bonuses should not be much of a problem.
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I'm in.
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Ray Luo has informed me that he seeks a partner for this tournament who is good at American history. If that's you, you should contact him.
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I'll play, too.
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Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed »

As Seth Teitler said in an earlier announcement, this will be held on FRIDAY NIGHT, or the evening before the Chicago Open main event.

Right now, we have either 12 or 13 players, which means at least six teams. Are there any volunteers for readers?
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I could probably read because I do not know if I would be of any use as a player in this one.
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This should be good.
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I guess I can either be a free agent or if no one wants that I'll read.
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Chuq, I would play with you if you want to play but I really don't know if I would get anything.
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I'm pretty sure I can read for this.
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It sounds like there are plenty of volunteer readers, but I can also help read.

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If you have signed up to play or to staff, please email me a confirmation of your plans to attend, including your name and, if you have that information yet, who you will be playing with.

I apologize for the double confirmation process, but this will allow me to get into contact with players/staffers much more easily and precisely.

I can be reached at

barthur -AT- jd10 -DOT- law -DOT- harvard -DOT- edu

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The following have confirmed via email:

Matt Lafer/Ryan Westbrook
Andrew Hart/Rob Carson
Ahmad Ragab/Rob Fernandez
Matt Weiner/Mystery Teammate*
Andy Wehrman/Noah Graf
Passner/Kwartler
Jerry Vinokurov/Charles Meigs
Rom Masrour/Tim Hartman

Free Agents:
Ray Luo
Mike Sorice
Lorin Burte

I know there are others who have posted in this thread but have not confirmed. I would ask that you take the minute or so and do the email confirmation. One day, when I have all of your emails, it will allow me to contact all of you more directly and end the days of me spamming this thread.

* I know who Weiner's mystery teammate is, but I won't say it since I'm unsure of whether they want to keep it a surprise or not.
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Bruce, any word on starting time and entry fee? It looks like I'll be traveling sans wife, so if there's room, I can potentially play more than just the main event now instead of visiting the in-laws.
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$10 per team

Ask Seth Teitler about starting time.
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Post by Awehrman »

By the way, that's Andy Wehrman and not Mike Wehrman teamed with Noah Graf. I hoped that Mike would be able to come, but he's being a loser and working on his lousy dissertation in New Haven.
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Can someone give the actual time that history doubles will start? It influences my ticket purchase.
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We can get into the rooms at 6 pm on Friday night, so we can start any time after that. If people want to start earlier, let me know and I'll see if we can get in earlier.

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I don't know if this is a lot of people, but the Minnesota contingent will be driving down on Friday morning and arriving in the afternoon, so times before six really don't work out well at all.
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The Missouri contingent will be around as we are coming Thursday to be tourists on Friday during the day.

If someone who does not care about winning too much wants a newb teammate, I am still available but I will read if nobody wants to play with me.
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setht wrote:We can get into the rooms at 6 pm on Friday night, so we can start any time after that. If people want to start earlier, let me know and I'll see if we can get in earlier.

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6:00 is good for me, hopefully there won't be any great number of people demanding earlier times.
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6:00 PM works for me.
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How long is this likely to last? Can everyone get there by 6:00?
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Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed »

So, assuming the current list of teams and players is the same as the players and teams that show up, we have 10 teams, with one of Mike Sorice, Ray Luo, or Lorin Burte being forced to play solo.

How many rooms and rounds is this going to require, assuming the number stays 10?
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Hmm, I worry that you're asking us how many rooms and rounds (especially rounds, since you're presumably writing the number of questions for however many rounds you desire), but...

With 10 teams, you'd need 5 rooms - 2 teams per room playing each other. As for rounds, for a full round robin, you'd need 9 rounds. And then you could potentially have some kind of playoff round(s) after that, or whatever you want to do.
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Congrats to The Brusilov Offensive (Vinokurov, Miegs) for going undefeated and winning the tournament.

But the true stars were the people who gave up their free time to moderate or scorekeep. So let's give them a big round of e-applause.
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Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?
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DeisEvan wrote:Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?
Chris Ray.

Who also won the neg prize.
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Bruce wrote:
DeisEvan wrote:Dare I ask who the Mystery Teammate of Matt Weiner was, for those of us not lucky enough to be in Chicago?
Chris Ray.

Who also won the neg prize.
No surprise there. I look forward to seeing his 20 negs on the results page.
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I believe that in both subject area tournaments, I narrowly beat out Mike for the neg prize (I think by ~2). Rau Luo's miraculous presence at the "science tournament" ensured I didn't make a clean sweep. All in all, my goal of beating Freeburg's ratio was realized, despite me negging the final question in a lit game against Lafer and Westrbook when we were up 15. I rule.
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Hey Chris FYI Freeburg's better than you am irite?
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