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Results: Mid-Atlantic TRASH regionals (11/10/07)

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:47 am
by btressler
The University of Delaware and the Charter School of Wilmington are pleased to host the Mid-Atlantic TRASH regionals on Saturday, November 10.

Details are available from the team website:

http://www.charterschool.org/clubs/acad ... /trash.php

To register, volunteer, or otherwise contact us, mail charterquiz at gmail dot com

Thanks much,

Bill Tressler
Charter coach, UD (MI '06)

Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:31 am
by btressler
I will follow Craig Barker's lead and declare that registration will close on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 at 5:00 PM.

The current field as I understand it is listed on the webpage above. I'm hoping that I can have a field of either 16 or 20 teams. 18 is okay too, but then there's byes.

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:05 am
by btressler
Email I sent out in case anyone missed it:
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The University of Delaware team is excited about hosting this
weekend's TRASH regionals. A few final bits of info:

- The opening meeting (9 am) is on the first floor of Purnell. One of
the brackets will be held in Kirkbride.

http://maps.rdms.udel.edu/campusmapbasi ... gcode=NW35

- We are fine on buzzers as long as everyone brings what they've
promised, with about 1 spare.

- Barring any changes, we have 20 teams total, so we'll be doing two
groups of ten. The crossover will be top 2, next 2, etc. I will
break any ties for second in a bracket with a 10 question mini-game,
as long as the tie is among four teams or less. Other ties will be
the usual tiebreakers. Every round counts in overall standings. If
someone goes 11-0, we're done. If there's a tie we'll have a one game
final. That's how many rounds we did last year and I believe we
concluded by 6pm.

- One of my least favorite features of UD's campus is that there is no
free parking. The Trabant Garage and Center for the Arts garage are
both close, as is the Visitor Lot across from Morris Library. I
believe the max rate on the weekend is $3.

- Any checks can be made out to Charter School of Wilmington.

See you then,

Bill Tressler,
on behalf of Delaware ACC

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:44 pm
by btressler
Final standings are up:

http://www.charterschool.org/clubs/acad ... dings.html

The final was won by 5 points, on tossup 20. Congrats to the two teams for dominating the field.

The closeness of the teams went further than that: There were three circles of death within playoff brackets. The teams are listed in the order they would appear if "points differential in games among the 3 teams" were used. But I just declared them all ties.

The bonus conversion stats are off because we didn't keep individuals for the last two rounds.

Thanks to:

Tim Young and Casey Reterer for moderating, as well as the Delaware ACC for hosting.

Teams for being good about time, so that we got through 11 rounds by around 6 as promised, and bringing all the promised buzzers.

I'm sorry that:

We had to use two buildings. We don't usually have trouble getting those rooms.

And me (of all people) reading a wrong packet. I regret the error.

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:52 pm
by Rothlover
Hope whoever it is at TRASH that enters stats for bids notes the lack of data for the last two rounds, which spiked the bonus conversion by ~2/11ths

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:05 am
by btressler
In what otherwise is a huge improvement over how I used to handle it, and an excellent program, I've always wanted the option on SQBS to turn off individuals and bonus conversion in the playoff rounds.

Here's what it looked like before the final two games:

http://www.charterschool.org/clubs/acad ... dings.html

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:29 am
by Captain Sinico
SQBS in fact has this capability. Just adjust the rounds used in the reports (I think it's under "Settings.")

MaS

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:36 am
by btressler
That's how I got the 1-9 you see above.

What I want is the ability to put in just the scores for the last two rounds and have those scores and the wins/losses get included, but for SQBS to not attempt to add the score into the bonus points. When I don't include any player stats, it thinks all the points scored were bonus, which produces the skewed bonus conversion stats as noted above.

I guess I could add "Fake Player" onto every team's roster and give them all the individual scores for rounds 10 and 11.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:30 am
by Andy Saunders
This may sound like an incredibly silly question, but is there anything preventing you from just entering the individual stats after-the-fact into SQBS?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:00 am
by btressler
The point is that we didn't keep the individuals for the playoff rounds. (or at least, not every moderator did)

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:46 pm
by sobek22
Bill, thank you for running a quality tournament. Moderators were solid, and it ran largely on schedule -- so good job to you and your crew.

Well, it SUCKS greatly to be up 180 at the half and 35 after #19 only to lose by 5, but James, Jason and their teammates deserve a lot of credit for their comeback. Congratulations -- it was a final worthy of the top two teams in the field.

-Adam

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:51 pm
by sobek22
FWIW (not much, since we're not a bubble team), we went 20-1 in the playoffs on toss-ups, so I have our final numbers at 133-7, 2690 bonus pts, 20.23 PPB.

-Adam

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:38 pm
by answerguy
Rothlover wrote:Hope whoever it is at TRASH that enters stats for bids notes the lack of data for the last two rounds, which spiked the bonus conversion by ~2/11ths
As of now, I'm currently the by-default stat boy for TRASH. Duly noted.

Currently I'm making my computations of the teams at Delaware for PPG based on all 11 games, but my TU% and PPB calculations on 9 games. It shouldn't matter that much.