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MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:30 pm
by z9R4C3
No packet writing required!

Fees and Discounts
Base Fee: $120
Additional Team(s): $100 (per team)
Operational Buzzer Discount: -$10
Volunteer Discount: -$10 (only if we use them)
Travel Discount: -$15/per 200 miles
New School Discount: -$40 (per school, not team)*
Minimum Fee: $75 (per team)**

**The minimum fee for "New Schools" will be $50 per team.

When registering, (email graceli [@] mit (dot) edu) please indicate to me how many teams you will be bringing, as well as buzzers, timers, and volunteers. See you all there!

Field Count:
Harvard (1 or 2)
Brandeis? (2 people)
Dartmouth
Yetman
Hampshire
Brown
Hunter HS

We'll also be mirroring the Dwight Science Tournament.

Dwight Science Field:
Mukherjee
Andy Watkins
Yi
Hannah?
Jerry
Dan Klein

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:36 am
by BuzzerZen
Hampshire'd probably come to this! Are teams attending mirrors required to write packets?

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:36 pm
by z9R4C3
BuzzerZen wrote:Are teams attending mirrors required to write packets?
Nope!

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:28 pm
by z9R4C3
Would anybody like for this to be mirrored?

Yogesh Raut's 2nd (and 1st solo) All-Movies Tournament: These Fragments I Have Shored Against My Ruins


This event will be a singles tournament consisting of 5 rounds of 40 "tossup" questions each, with reshuffling based on rank after each round. There are no powers, and neg rules will be in effect. If necessary, a cap of 120 points per round will be instituted; players who reach that level will no longer be allowed to buzz in until the next round, but they will be ranked ahead of all other players (in the order in which they reach the limit). It is at the moderator's discretion whether or not to cut off buzzing after a set number of incorrect guesses, but this should be held consistent across rooms and across rounds.

Distribution:

The bulk of questions will focus on "mainstream" American and British cinema (with the two national cultures weighted equally, and an emphasis on works of artistic merit). Other categories that will be represented, to a lesser extent, include foreign-language cinema, silent cinema, art/avant-garde cinema, "trash" cinema, short films, common links, film criticism, film theory, and miscellaneous film-related topics. The answer selection will include not only the usual (titles, performers, directors, characters, miscellaneous common links) but also - again, to a lesser extent - writers, composers, critics, and technicians. Nevertheless, strict notability guidelines are in effect.

Length:

No question is longer than 8 lines (Times New Roman, 10 pt, 1" margins). Most are between 6 and 7 lines; only a couple are shorter than 5 lines.

Difficulty:

Questions will be pyramidal, and the answers will range from highly well-known to slightly obscure. Expect both the clues and the answer space to be a bit tougher overall than at TRASHionals (as befitting a one-subject tourney). However, none of the answers will be more obscure than the hardest part of a TRASHionals bonus.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:00 pm
by BuzzerZen
I suspect you'd get a better audience for a Sunday mirror of Dwight Science than for this. You might even want to consider running Dwight Science as a recruitment event, considering you're at that crazy MIT place.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:38 am
by Sima Guang Hater
BuzzerZen wrote:I suspect you'd get a better audience for a Sunday mirror of Dwight Science than for this. You might even want to consider running Dwight Science as a recruitment event, considering you're at that crazy MIT place.
I'd like this to be mirrored

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:08 pm
by z9R4C3
[look up top!]

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:06 pm
by Mechanical Beasts
I assert that at least one Harvard team will be there. And I'll play (read: lose) the science thing.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:35 pm
by Not That Kind of Christian!!
Brandeis will be here; the provisional date sounds perfect, actually. And I'll play/read science and read movies if you like.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:47 pm
by fleurdelivre
z9R4C3 wrote:I'm arbitrarily imposing a field cap of 18 teams, potentially to be expanded later when we find more readers.
You called?

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:59 pm
by Dartmouth College Bowl
We will probably send a couple teams.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:17 pm
by AKKOLADE
fleurdelivre wrote:
z9R4C3 wrote:I'm arbitrarily imposing a field cap of 18 teams, potentially to be expanded later when we find more readers.
You called?
If I could do anything musically, you would have a theme song by now.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:53 pm
by BuzzerZen
z9R4C3 wrote:I'm arbitrarily imposing a field cap of 18 teams, potentially to be expanded later when we find more readers.

We'll also be mirroring the Dwight Science Tournament.

Dwight Science Field:
Mukherjee
Evan S.
I'm writing for this, so I certainly won't be playing. :-P

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:39 pm
by z9R4C3
BuzzerZen wrote:I'm writing for this, so I certainly won't be playing. :-P
Oh >.< Anyhow, should we be expecting Hampshire to be bringing teams to the tournament proper?

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:40 pm
by BuzzerZen
z9R4C3 wrote:
BuzzerZen wrote:I'm writing for this, so I certainly won't be playing. :-P
Oh >.< Anyhow, should we be expecting Hampshire to be bringing teams to the tournament proper?
At least one. We'll see if I scrape up enough people for a B team next semester.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 6:36 pm
by z9R4C3
Sign up!

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:45 am
by BuzzerZen
Anybody else signed up for this lately?

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:32 pm
by z9R4C3
BuzzerZen wrote:Anybody else signed up for this lately?
No >.< But they should! And they will!

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:37 pm
by grapesmoker
Well, as I told Grace at SCT, Brown will bring one team. I don't think we'll have enough people for a B team though. I will be playing the science tournament and I can read for movies.

edit: and Dan Klein, who will be coming with me, is going to play science as well, so please put him on that list.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:36 pm
by Mechanical Beasts
Provisionally expect 1-2 teams from Harvard and 1-2 teams for science.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:31 pm
by Dartmouth College Bowl
I think we are probably going to bring only one team. I will let you know if we decide to bring a second team.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:27 pm
by Not That Kind of Christian!!
Two of my players have expressed interest in being on a hybrid team, if there are nonaffiliated people available.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:26 am
by fleurdelivre
Is the field update still current? If it's really that small, let me know if I'm actually needed or not...

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:59 pm
by z9R4C3
That's the current field update. At this point, it looks like we won't be needing Katy and that we'll be running a double round robin. Something like that.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:46 pm
by cvdwightw
z9R4C3 wrote:Fees and Discounts

Timer Discount: -$5 (limit 3)
Are you seriously running this as a timed tournament, or did you copy this fee structure blindly from your SCT announcement?

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:04 pm
by grapesmoker
cvdwightw wrote:
z9R4C3 wrote:Fees and Discounts

Timer Discount: -$5 (limit 3)
Are you seriously running this as a timed tournament, or did you copy this fee structure blindly from your SCT announcement?
Oh yeah, let's please not have a timed tournament.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:31 pm
by Mechanical Beasts
grapesmoker wrote:
cvdwightw wrote:
z9R4C3 wrote:Fees and Discounts

Timer Discount: -$5 (limit 3)
Are you seriously running this as a timed tournament, or did you copy this fee structure blindly from your SCT announcement?
Oh yeah, let's please not have a timed tournament.
Only if Katy can't read every room at the same time.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:09 pm
by fleurdelivre
everyday847 wrote:
grapesmoker wrote:
cvdwightw wrote:Are you seriously running this as a timed tournament, or did you copy this fee structure blindly from your SCT announcement?
Oh yeah, let's please not have a timed tournament.
Only if Katy can't read every room at the same time.
Didn't you see? I got laid off...

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:48 pm
by z9R4C3
No timers >.< Copied blindly from SCT announcement.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:05 pm
by Dennis
fleurdelivre wrote: Didn't you see? I got laid off...
I can see the headlines now--"Stumbling Economy Leaves Quiz Bowl Moderators Without Jobs."

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:15 am
by Mechanical Beasts
We're going to have two teams. Two buzzers if Kyle comes, one otherwise. That will be updated soon.

EDIT: also, it looks like we have nine people, so those two Brandeis people could get a loaner from us, or if you need to beef up a scab team, or whatever.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:23 pm
by grapesmoker
One team, one buzzer set, 3 people interested in playing science.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 4:48 pm
by Mechanical Beasts
everyday847 wrote:We're going to have two teams. Two buzzers if Kyle comes, one otherwise. That will be updated soon.

EDIT: also, it looks like we have nine people, so those two Brandeis people could get a loaner from us, or if you need to beef up a scab team, or whatever.
This is now eight people and two sciencers.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:13 am
by Gautam
everyday847 wrote: This is now eight people and two sciencers.
They're called SCIENTISTS, Andy Watkins!

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:07 pm
by cdcarter
gkandlikar wrote:
everyday847 wrote: This is now eight people and two sciencers.
They're called SCIENTISTS, Andy Watkins!
Once again we prove that Andrew Watkins hasn't slept.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:03 am
by z9R4C3
Hey everyone,

Thanks for coming to the tournament!

After a double round robin, Brown cleared the field with a 13-1 record, followed by Harvard A (11-3) and Dartmouth (10-4).

Top scorers were:
1. Jerry
2. Doug Yetman
3. Guy
4. Ted
5. Randall

Full results can be found here.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 3:54 pm
by Mechanical Beasts
Our second Yetman game was 280-175, not 180-175. (Giving us 20ppb that round, not 10ppb.) Thanks for prompt stats and an excellently run tournament.

Re: MIT Cardinal Classic Mirror, Provisionally 2/14/09

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:29 pm
by BuzzerZen
I would also like to thank Grace et al. for the well-organized event, and for the Ehrlenmeyer flask as a scoring prize.