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ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:24 pm

Yale Quiz Bowl is pleased to announce that we will host ACF Winter Northeast on Saturday, January 17. Some details borrowed (i.e. stolen) from the global thread:

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ACF Winter is a packet-submission tournament, and is intended as a regular-difficulty event, with questions slightly harder than those at ACF Fall but comparable to Penn Bowl 2007 or 2008. Per the ACF packet submission guidelines located at http://www.acf-quizbowl.com/documents/packetsub.php, "any team with at least one person on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2007 is required to submit a packet in order to participate in an ACF tournament in 2008-2009. All ACF tournaments, NAQT Division I or Division II SCT, NAQT ICT, and typical academic invitationals count as regular collegiate academic tournaments for this purpose, but trash or 'hybrid' tournaments, College Bowl/HCASC, and tournaments played on NAQT 'invitational series' questions do not."

For teams required to submit packets, please refer to the guidelines above, and submit your packets according to the following schedule:
Packet submitted by Nov. 15: -$50
Packet submitted by Nov. 29: -$25 (-$50 for optional packets)
Packet submitted by Dec. 13: No penalty (-$25 for optional packets)
Packet submitted by Dec. 20: +$25
Packet submitted by Jan. 4: +$50
No packet submitted by Jan. 4: Dropped from tournament, unless prior arrangements have been made.

Fees:
Base fee: $120 per team
Buzzer systems: -$5 each
Staffers: -$10 each
Laptop: -$5 each (max 1 per team)
Travel: -$10 for every 200 miles traveled (one-way)
International: -$20
Teams new to ACF: -$25
Teams new to quizbowl: -$75
High school teams: -$50

To register, contact me (Michael Bilow) at firstname dot lastname {at} yale {dot} edu. More details after winter break.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:44 pm

Unless the 18th suddenly looks more attractive, I will not be in attendance because an exam was just rescheduled to that day, but the packet I wrote is blind to all of Harvard, so we'll see if anyone else is interested.

I may try to assert that I have some kind of conflict with the 17th, but I don't think they've ever made accommodations for anyone. Sadness.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:03 am

Is this happening? We're showing up with one team (me/Aaron) if it is.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:11 am

The Quest for the Historical Mukherjesus wrote:Is this happening? We're showing up with one team (me/Aaron) if it is.
Dartmouth submitted 2 packets so I would assume they are coming with at least two teams. Hampshire, MIT, Columbia? I'd love to hear from you guys.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by BuzzerZen » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:18 am

grapesmoker wrote:Hampshire
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by dyetman89 » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:59 am

Hunter is registered, though Bilow has yet to reply to me, so really who the hell knows.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Sir Thopas » Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:07 am

Hunter HS will be there with 1-2 teams, although unfortunately no packets.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:40 am

RPI is also bringing a team
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Dartmouth College Bowl » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:48 am

We should be bringing either 2 or 3 teams. We will let you know as soon as possible.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by The Logic of Scientific Disco » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:37 pm

As far as I know, we won't be coming because of Mystery Hunt, which is that weekend.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Not That Kind of Christian!! » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:51 pm

We will also not be coming because of Mystery Hunt.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:26 pm

everyday847 wrote:Unless the 18th suddenly looks more attractive, I will not be in attendance because an exam was just rescheduled to that day, but the packet I wrote is blind to all of Harvard, so we'll see if anyone else is interested.

I may try to assert that I have some kind of conflict with the 17th, but I don't think they've ever made accommodations for anyone. Sadness.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by dyetman89 » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:35 pm

everyday847 wrote:One team from Harvard, almost definitely consisting of just me, will be there.
I like your style, Watkins.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:20 pm

do you need/want staff?
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:41 pm

Hey Everyone! ACF Winter's in about a week, and so far the field is:

Brown
Hunter College
Dartmouth (2-3)
RPI
Hunter HS (1-2)

The driving directions attached were for our high school tournament in the fall, but the same pretty much applies. One change is that we'll be holding the tournament in Allen K. Watson Hall (AKW), which is at 51 Prospect Street, on Prospect between Grove and Trumbull. It's a big red brick building--you can't miss it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&g ... 22745&z=16

Edit: Minus Harvard (Watkins), plus 1-2 Hunter HS.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:37 pm

I have to drop because the powers that be that rescheduled my final got their asses owned by larger and more powerful powers that be. So now I have to take a final instead.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:11 pm

The Final Field:

Brown
Hunter College
Dartmouth (2)
RPI
Hunter HS (2)
Yale House

Registration is at 8:45 in AKW 200 (2nd Floor of 51 Prospect Street) so we can begin the tournament promptly at 9. See you all there!
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:31 pm

So with only eight teams, is this going to be a full round robin format?
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:56 pm

aarcoh wrote:So with only eight teams, is this going to be a full round robin format?
I'm not running the tournament, but I can tell you that we have three packets from Northeast teams. That means that with 8 teams, we can't run a 14-round double RR because that leaves three packets that are potentially not blind to teams that will face off in a final. I suggest a full RR (7 games in 7 rounds) followed by a split into two brackets of 4, who play a double RR within the bracket (6 games in 8 rounds). This allows the non-blind packets to be used by scheduling them for the byes of the writing teams. Two packets are left to play off an advantaged final if necessary.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by setht » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:10 pm

grapesmoker wrote:
aarcoh wrote:So with only eight teams, is this going to be a full round robin format?
I'm not running the tournament, but I can tell you that we have three packets from Northeast teams. That means that with 8 teams, we can't run a 14-round double RR because that leaves three packets that are potentially not blind to teams that will face off in a final. I suggest a full RR (7 games in 7 rounds) followed by a split into two brackets of 4, who play a double RR within the bracket (6 games in 8 rounds). This allows the non-blind packets to be used by scheduling them for the byes of the writing teams. Two packets are left to play off an advantaged final if necessary.
Double RR of two brackets of 4 teams is 6 games in 6 rounds--no byes. 8 teams is not a convenient number for a packet-submission tournament; if you want to use up a few field-submitted packets, try the Partial Submission Round Robin schedule listed here. It gives 7 games to each team in 8 rounds and uses up to 4 non-blind packets.

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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:12 pm

setht wrote:Double RR of two brackets of 4 teams is 6 games in 6 rounds--no byes. 8 teams is not a convenient number for a packet-submission tournament; if you want to use up a few field-submitted packets, try the Partial Submission Round Robin schedule listed here. It gives 7 games to each team in 8 rounds and uses up to 4 non-blind packets.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Dartmouth College Bowl » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:37 pm

Just for clarification's sake, we will be bringing 2 teams.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:21 pm

I see only one conflict between the teams coming on Saturday and the list of likely packets Trygve sent out last night.

So can't we just not use the one conflict packet, and run a double RR with an advantaged playoff if necessary?
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Dennis » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:26 am

ChuyElChulo wrote:I see only one conflict between the teams coming on Saturday and the list of likely packets Trygve sent out last night.

So can't we just not use the one conflict packet, and run a double RR with an advantaged playoff if necessary?
Actually, both Brown and Dartmouth A submitted packets.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:04 am

More actually, Darmouth A and C, as well as Brown, submitted packets. We haven't found a place to park the Dartmouth C packet yet, but we probably will find some use for it. Whether we did or not, it wouldn't matter since less Dartmouth and Brown only leaves 15 blind packets, which is good only for a double-RR plus a one-game final; it's especially problematic that the packets come from the two teams who are likely to meet in that final.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:01 pm

Through the morning, we have:

1. Brown (6-0)
2. Dartmouth A (5-1)
3. Dartmouth B (3-3)
4. Hunter HS A (3-3)
5. Hunter College (3-3)
6. RPI (1-6)
7. Hunter HS B (0-6)

The top eight scorers are:

1. Eric (Brown) 95.00 ppg
2. Doug (Hunter College) 63.33 ppg
3. Guy (Hunter HS) 58.33 ppg
4. Ricky P (Dartmouth A) 45.83 ppg
5. James (Dartmouth B) 38.33 ppg
6. Jack H (Dartmouth B) 38.33 ppg
7. Aaron C (RPI) 37.50 ppg
8. Aaron (Brown) 26.67 ppg
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:35 am

Brown won the tournament in a one-game playoff against Dartmouth, finishing 12-2 on the day. Dartmouth was second at 11-3, Hunter HS A was third at 5-6.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:43 am

Complete stats are posted!

http://results.scobo.net/YaleQB
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Sir Thopas » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:51 am

ChuyElChulo wrote:Complete stats are posted!
these stats are not complete
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Matt Weiner » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:51 am

ChuyElChulo wrote:Complete stats are posted!

http://results.scobo.net/YaleQB
6 games was "complete"?
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:15 am

Hey, it would be great if you guys could tabulate the stats from the playoffs and add those.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:37 am

I'm seeing a bunch of mistakes in the individual scoring as well...
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by shlack » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:08 pm

I appreciate Dartmouth A's player names.

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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:09 pm

Not to pile on, but, er, stats?
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Post by Sima Guang Hater » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:12 pm

everyday847 wrote:Not to pile on, but, er, stats?
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:12 pm

Oh, sorry. I thought all official ACF events had to keep them.
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Re: ACF Winter Northeast at Yale (1/17/09)

Post by AKKOLADE » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:37 pm

everyday847 wrote:Oh, sorry. I thought all official ACF events had to keep them.
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