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ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:06 pm

Harvard is pleased to announce that we will be hosting ACF Regionals on Saturday, February 28th, 2009. Please register by contacting me via email (andy.watkins2@gmail.com). Posting here does not constitute registration, though feel free to do it anyway; it can only encourage more people to come. And we'd like a good, strong field here. We'll certainly be providing a house team for scheduling/bracketing/whatever reasons. At the moment, it looks like Dallas Simons will be tournament director.

The tournament will take place in Sever Hall, pending room reservations going through.

Fees
Base fee: $120 per team
Buzzer systems: -$5 each
Staffers: -$10 each
Laptop: -$5 each (max 1 per team)
Travel: -$10 for every 200 miles traveled (one-way)
International: -$20
Teams new to ACF: -$25
Teams new to quizbowl: -$75
High school teams: -$50

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All experienced teams are required to submit packets for ACF Regionals. For details regarding who is required to submit a packet and what your packet should look like, please consult the official ACF Packet Submission Guidelines (http://www.acf-quizbowl.com/documents/packetsub.php). There will be discounts and penalties for timely and untimely submissions; they are detailed in the guide and summarized below:

* Packet submitted by:
* Jan. 4: -$50
* Jan. 18: -$25 (-$50 for optional packets)
* Feb. 1: No penalty (-$25 for optional packets)
* Feb. 8: +$25
* Feb. 15: +$50

If you do not make special arrangements with the editors and do not submit a packet by Feb. 15, you will not be allowed to play. There will be no exceptions to this rule. Also, please take special note of the formatting rules for packet submission. Read this carefully: if your packet violates the formatting guidelines, it will be sent right back to you.

Difficulty
ACF Regionals is intended as a regular-difficulty event. Please look at ACF Regionals 2008 as an example of the target difficulty of this tournament. If you are unsure whether a particular answer choice is appropriate for this tournament, contact the editors and they will let you know. In general, you should strive to adhere to the question writing practices outlined in the Guide linked to above.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:25 pm

This space for field, etc.

Equipment

We have two buzzers. MIT is bringing one to two sets. Yale is bringing two sets. That means we have enough for 10-12 teams. We need ONE TO TWO more sets.

Field (11)

Harvard House
RPI
Brandeis
MIT A (2 buzzers)
MIT B
Hunter College (College) (College)
Brown (one moderator)
Dartmouth A
Dartmouth B
Yale A
Yale B
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:48 pm

RPI will probably send a team
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Not That Kind of Christian!! » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:36 pm

Brandeis will send a team as well.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:52 am

At least one Brown team will be coming.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Dartmouth College Bowl » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:29 pm

We will probably send either 2 or 3 teams.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by ChuyElChulo » Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:01 pm

Yale will send 2-3 teams.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:04 pm

grapesmoker wrote:At least one Brown team will be coming.
And one moderator.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:06 pm

everyday847 wrote:This space for field, etc.

Field (11)

1 Harvard House
1 RPI
1 Brandeis
1 Brown (one moderator)
1 Hunter College (College) (College)
2 Dartmouth
2 Yale (2 buzzers)
2 MIT (2 buzzers)
This notation might be easier for everyone to understand; what shouldn't be easy or hard to understand is email me to confirm your registrations, dammit.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:08 pm

I'll go ahead and confirm Brown's registration. We've sent in our packet.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by setht » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:26 pm

everyday847 wrote:what shouldn't be easy or hard to understand
I don't understand.

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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:35 pm

setht wrote:
everyday847 wrote:what shouldn't be easy or hard to understand
I don't understand.
Hey Joshu, what's that on your head?
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:40 pm

Hey, kids. WIth one week to go, I'd love to get a closer approximation of how many teams are attending so that I can understand how to run this thing, particularly because we need three more buzzers.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Aaron » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:33 pm

We'll let you know soon if we are sending 2 or 3 teams. But either way we'll be bringing two buzzer systems.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Aaron » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:47 am

Yale is sending two teams.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:06 am

Will there be basketball, as was discussed?
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:14 am

I'll ask Dallas. I don't think there's generally any need to reserve a court at the MAC, but I'll see.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Dartmouth College Bowl » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:05 pm

Hey Andy, just confirming that you got an email from me earlier this week about the status of our teams.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:49 pm

Said email contained "I will get back to you as soon as possible about our B team" and so yes but who knoooooows
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Magister Ludi » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:47 pm

There will be basketball after the tournament, so everyone who is interested in playing should bring their stuff.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:00 pm

So is the format just going to be full round robin+finals or something like that?
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:36 pm

Since 13 teams looks like an exceedingly likely total, yes. Twelve teams would be terrible since you can't run a round robin OR two brackets that way, so we'd likely conjure up an additional house team to avoid that.

If somehow we end up with fourteen teams, we'll do 7/7, 7/7, finals.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Feb 24, 2009 11:28 pm

Hey, we're not actually, like, well off for buzzers or anything, so teams that I know have buzzers: please, please, please bring them. Brown has buzzers. So does... Brandeis, maybe? I bet RPI does. Does RPI want to pay very much for this tournament? Surely not!
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:25 am

I bet RPI does.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:34 am

Hey, Brandeis has some buzzers, which is good; it looks like we may be pretty much off the hook there. Where we're certainly not off the hook is staff. We currently have a total of four moderators in the morning and five in the afternoon, counting Eric. If you have someone to drag along, I will do anything for a moderator. Since it looks inevitable that we will have an eleven round round robin in the morning, we may have to beg you to moderate on your bye; this gives us more than enough moderators in every case except Hunter College, since Yetman has no friends (though in that case, we do have just enough--I'd just rather have one more, to keep the tournament running quickly).

Also, Brian Young will be serving as tournament director, packets to byoung@fas.harvard.edu.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:05 am

I'd be willing to moderate during my bye, if that's necessary
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:19 am

everyday847 wrote:Hey, Brandeis has some buzzers, which is good; it looks like we may be pretty much off the hook there. Where we're certainly not off the hook is staff. We currently have a total of four moderators in the morning and five in the afternoon, counting Eric. If you have someone to drag along, I will do anything for a moderator. Since it looks inevitable that we will have an eleven round round robin in the morning, we may have to beg you to moderate on your bye; this gives us more than enough moderators in every case except Hunter College, since Yetman has no friends (though in that case, we do have just enough--I'd just rather have one more, to keep the tournament running quickly).

Also, Brian Young will be serving as tournament director, packets to byoung@fas.harvard.edu.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:45 am

fleurdelivre wrote:
everyday847 wrote:Hey, Brandeis has some buzzers, which is good; it looks like we may be pretty much off the hook there. Where we're certainly not off the hook is staff. We currently have a total of four moderators in the morning and five in the afternoon, counting Eric. If you have someone to drag along, I will do anything for a moderator. Since it looks inevitable that we will have an eleven round round robin in the morning, we may have to beg you to moderate on your bye; this gives us more than enough moderators in every case except Hunter College, since Yetman has no friends (though in that case, we do have just enough--I'd just rather have one more, to keep the tournament running quickly).

Also, Brian Young will be serving as tournament director, packets to byoung@fas.harvard.edu.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:08 am

everyday847 wrote:
fleurdelivre wrote:
everyday847 wrote:Hey, Brandeis has some buzzers, which is good; it looks like we may be pretty much off the hook there. Where we're certainly not off the hook is staff. We currently have a total of four moderators in the morning and five in the afternoon, counting Eric. If you have someone to drag along, I will do anything for a moderator. Since it looks inevitable that we will have an eleven round round robin in the morning, we may have to beg you to moderate on your bye; this gives us more than enough moderators in every case except Hunter College, since Yetman has no friends (though in that case, we do have just enough--I'd just rather have one more, to keep the tournament running quickly).

Also, Brian Young will be serving as tournament director, packets to byoung@fas.harvard.edu.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Not That Kind of Christian!! » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:15 am

If you need more moderators, I can bring one. Probably.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:32 am

HKirsch wrote:If you need more moderators, I can bring one. Probably.
If you pull that off, let me know.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:08 pm

mmkay, have couch, will be there unless Hannah relieves me of my duties.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Not That Kind of Christian!! » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:08 pm

Off has been pulled; one of our nonplayers is going to come read.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:09 pm

HKirsch wrote:Off has been pulled; one of our nonplayers is going to come read.
Andy, am I redundant now? Or was one simply a bare minimum and two still a pretty good idea?
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:52 pm

Let me try to count.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:55 pm

fleurdelivre wrote:
HKirsch wrote:Off has been pulled; one of our nonplayers is going to come read.
Andy, am I redundant now? Or was one simply a bare minimum and two still a pretty good idea?
Yeah, it looks now like we will have five and then six for a nontrivial amount of the day. Problem solved.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:36 pm

everyday847 wrote: Problem solved.
...and with that, I find myself quizbowl-unemployed again.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

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fleurdelivre wrote:
everyday847 wrote: Problem solved.
...and with that, I find myself quizbowl-unemployed again.
I got the impression from Josh Sokol that Swarthmore might be in need of some extra ACF Regs moderators (which would make sense, given their field size). If you're still looking to read somewhere, I'd suggest getting in touch with him.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by fleurdelivre » Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:32 pm

Inter et Inter wrote:I got the impression from Josh Sokol that Swarthmore might be in need of some extra ACF Regs moderators (which would make sense, given their field size). If you're still looking to read somewhere, I'd suggest getting in touch with him.
I don't need to read anywhere and hadn't volunteered myself precisely because I have boring, practical things I should do with my Saturday instead. I hadn't seen any moderator pleas on the Swarthmore thread (I do keep an eye on tournaments in the area, for the most part).
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Dartmouth College Bowl » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:37 pm

What time are we starting tomorrow?
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:54 pm

This is actually a perfect time to be asking that; I was just going to be emailing that out. So we're going to open up registration at 8:30, though if you come earlier you'll probably see at least one of us and we'll be glad to take your money from you. Please, please try to get here as close to 8:30 as possible; I understand that because of the vagaries of public transportation / inability to find buildings, as close as possible may end up being not very close at all. That's fine, whatever, but we do very much want to start close to 9:00am, and if everyone is there we will surely start earlier.

We'll open up the day with a bracing eleven round, eleven team round robin. Lunch will probably be placed after round six or seven, preferably seven, but if we don't get through many rounds in the morning it'll come at a reasonable time, certainly not too late in the afternoon. After the round robin, we'll have tiebreakers if necessary (just for placement into playoff brackets) and then we'll break into brackets of 4/4/3. (If a scab team or whatever wants to form, it'd be welcome to take a 12 seed so that the lower bracket can get some games.

Then there will be ACF-format finals. Yeah, that's pretty much it.

EDIT: Right, other things. Brian Young will be serving as tournament director during the day, because Dallas and l will be playing. Packets will of be emailed to him, too, of course (to byoung@fas.harvard.edu, if you are reading this early tomorrow morning and feel like emailing him packets). But if you need to contact anyone during the day, you can call me and I'll help you: 412 - 759 - 8359.

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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by byoung » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:48 pm

Tournament update: Prelims have just ended (well after 6 pm, I'm sorry to report), and we've rebracketed into 4-4-3 for 3 more rounds of playoffs. Brown was 10-0 for the prelims, and the Harvard house team went 9-1; rounding out the top bracket were MIT A and Dartmouth A.

Being who I am, I'm statting in Taft (thanks, Evan!) and SQBS; I'll post SQBS stats tonight once everything's in, but "live" Taft stats can be found at http://www.taftqb.com/t/acfregsnortheas ... /standings.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by byoung » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:51 pm

Update: Playoffs are over, with Harvard beating Brown 285-270 in the last round of the playoffs to force a one-game final, which is going on now.

Top scorers for the prelims were Jerry with 84 PPG and Doug Yetman with 71 PPG; full stats shortly.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by cdcarter » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:40 pm

Harvard beats Brown in a 1 game final.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:42 pm

More information: three total games between Brown and Harvard were determined by one question (I don't have the score), 15, and 25 points.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by byoung » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 pm

Apologies for the delay. Stats are (have been) up at Taft, and SQBS output can now be found on the Harvard team website:
Prelims
Playoffs (including finals)
Combined

The only discrepancy that I'm aware of between the Taft and SQBS stats is due to the elsewhere-mentioned RPI-Yetman confusion in round 2, where the teams finished 5 points apart but the moderator had inadvertently skipped a question. I gave the teams a 20th tossup but no bonus, so the SQBS output (where the game is recorded as 19 tossups heard plus 1 tiebreaker) better represents RPI's true bonus conversion.

Thanks again to all the teams for coming and for their forbearance (and I should note that the finals didn't end until 9:30 but to my knowledge, every team, even in the bottom bracket, stayed for all 14 rounds). Big thanks to the moderators, particularly Vu from Brandeis and Eric M, and to the aforementioned bottom bracket for being good enough to moderate for one another when Harvard moderators had to leave.

I'd be very glad to hear any comments or criticism about how the tourney itself was run (feel free even to remind me that extended lunches are a luxury) -- e-mail me at byoungATfas.harvard.edu, or say something in the thread and Watkins will read it.
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Re: ACF Regionals Northeast (Harvard) (2/28/09)

Post by grapesmoker » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:35 pm

I meant to post this earlier; at the tournament I recorded a few games with a webcam, but unfortunately all but one of them lack sound. I've figured out how to record things properly with sound now so probably the next tournament I go to will have games recorded with sound, but here you can find a video of Brown vs. Hunter College.
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