GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

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When Would You Like This Tournament to Happen?

Poll ended at Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:33 pm

Only Saturday Night
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Friday Night and Saturday Night
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Friday Afternoon and Saturday Night
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9%
Friday Afternoon, Friday Night and Saturday Night
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Total votes: 22

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GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:17 pm

This is an announcement for GUERRILLA, The Generally Useless Exercise in 'Riting and Reading Ill-conceived Long, Long Acronyms, which will take place sometime during the ICT.

To play in this free tournament, you must be part of a team that writes a packet. Feel free to form teams of up to 4 players here in this thread. If the schedule works or people have extra spots on teams players can join on the day of the tournament, but there is no guarantee this will actually happen. Additionally, people that don't write a packet will have to pay $10 to play, which will go towards ordering food or something for people who did write a packet.

Packets will be TOSSUPS ONLY and should conform to something close to a standard ACF Distribution. Try to aim for around 24 questions in the event of repeats. You can write a theme packet (i.e. the Jonathan Magin dream packet), but please make sure it gets pretty close to standard distribution. The target difficulty for this tournament is Chicago Open level stuff. Shoot for your tossups being an average of 3 (out of 6) on the Jonathan Magin difficulty scale used in Gaddis last year. Include super powers and regular powers.

Oh yeah, as the name implies, this is a guerrilla tournament meaning there is no central editor. It'd be great if someone who is not playing this tournament (and ideally staffing it) could receive the packets from people and compile them into a zip file for distribution on the day of the tournament. Packets will have to be submitted the day before the tournament starts probably.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:18 pm

On that note, I am looking for 3 teammates who want to help write a packet.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:34 pm

Also, I have updated the thread with a poll about when you want the tournament to happen. It would be smoothest if the tournament took place only on Saturday night, but if a majority of people have Saturday flights, we can try to get get at least a few games in earlier.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:03 pm

I like quizbowl.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by cdcarter » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:23 am

Bentley Like Beckham wrote: Oh yeah, as the name implies, this is a guerrilla tournament meaning there is no central editor. It'd be great if someone who is not playing this tournament (and ideally staffing it) could receive the packets from people and compile them into a zip file for distribution on the day of the tournament. Packets will have to be submitted the day before the tournament starts probably.
I'm not too good at quizbowl and I like helping, so I would be quite willing to do this.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:36 am

cdcarter wrote:
Bentley Like Beckham wrote: Oh yeah, as the name implies, this is a guerrilla tournament meaning there is no central editor. It'd be great if someone who is not playing this tournament (and ideally staffing it) could receive the packets from people and compile them into a zip file for distribution on the day of the tournament. Packets will have to be submitted the day before the tournament starts probably.
I'm not too good at quizbowl and I like helping, so I would be quite willing to do this.
Ok send packets to Chris Carter when they're done.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Kevin » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:50 am

I'm definitely interested in playing this, although I would probably (read: assuredly) suck rather horribly. But I could certainly write six toss-ups for a team in search of a fourth player.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by rylltraka » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:12 pm

I am also interested in playing this and am looking for a team; I know history and little else.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Golran » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:00 pm

Mik, I'll play on your team. I'll set up a googledoc with the packet info...
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Post by tkpatel » Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:01 am

dinoian wrote:Mik, I'll play on your team. I'll set up a googledoc with the packet info...
Sign me up too
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:54 pm

everyday847 wrote:I like quizbowl.
Want to be on my team, Andy Watkins?
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:58 pm

Gladly.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Theory Of The Leisure Flask » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:47 pm

I'll be a free agent for this.
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Post by cvdwightw » Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:33 pm

tkpatel wrote:
dinoian wrote:Mik, I'll play on your team. I'll set up a googledoc with the packet info...
Sign me up too
If you guys don't have a fourth, I'll sign up here. Will this be a Ray Luo dream packet?
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:36 pm

So uh, hey...is anyone staffing this besides Chris? I'll volunteer to staff if needed.
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Post by swwFCqb » Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:18 pm

Provided it's being played entirely on Saturday night, I won't have a problem staffing if need be.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Golran » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:04 pm

cvdwightw wrote:
tkpatel wrote:
dinoian wrote:Mik, I'll play on your team. I'll set up a googledoc with the packet info...
Sign me up too
If you guys don't have a fourth, I'll sign up here. Will this be a Ray Luo dream packet?
You're probably better at knowing what's in a Ray Luo dream packet than me, so can you provide some answer choices? Google Doc created very soon.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:53 pm

A.F. wrote:So uh, hey...is anyone staffing this besides Chris? I'll volunteer to staff if needed.
Well, packet authors generally do the reading in geurrilla tournaments, but extra staff would certainly be appreciated.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Gautam » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:12 pm

A team of Matt Weiner, Evan Nagler, Rob Carson, and myself, will be playing/submitting a packet.

EDIT: Team name: Young's Law All-Stars: Jew, Jew, Indian, and Better Choose Quick
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:21 pm

Consider my vote changed from "Saturday only" to "whatever results in the fewest Saturday night games".
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Post by Mike Bentley » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:22 pm

Ok, I am declaring there are now enough votes to make this a Saturday-night only tournament.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by wd4gdz » Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:30 pm

Ahmad Ragab and I are seeking two other teammates. We currently plan to write a Chris Borglum dream packet, although this is subject to change.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:11 am

wd4gdz wrote:Ahmad Ragab and I are seeking two other teammates. We currently plan to write a Chris Borglum dream packet, although this is subject to change.
Andy and I will join your team. I'll set up a Google Doc soon.
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Post by wd4gdz » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:40 am

Bentley Like Beckham wrote:
wd4gdz wrote:Ahmad Ragab and I are seeking two other teammates. We currently plan to write a Chris Borglum dream packet, although this is subject to change.
Andy and I will join your team. I'll set up a Google Doc soon.
Sounds like a plan.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:42 am

Well, I reckon I want to hear the Drive-By Truckers and Kara Goucher toss-ups in my "dream" packet, so I'd like to play. However, I'm not going to have much time to help write a packet. If there's a team that would like a third or fourth who could only contribute maybe 3/3 or 4/4 questions but would be happy to throw in $20 for pizza or something, I'm available.
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Post by Mr. Kwalter » Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:13 pm

Hey, I want to play this. Anyone want to play this with me?
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Post by theMoMA » Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:21 pm

Mr. Kwalter wrote:Hey, I want to play this. Anyone want to play this with me?
Hey, we still haven't played on a team together yet. And we should.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by ValenciaQBowl » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:07 am

Hey, what am I, chopped liver? The wallflower at the eighth-grade dance? Again?

I'll team up with you, Eric (and, of course, you, Andrew), if y'all will have me and my paltry question contributions. As I'm not above paying for friends, I'll buy dinner for the team.

If not, I'll continue standing here at the wall, staring forlornly at my feet. ::weeping::
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

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ValenciaQBowl wrote:Hey, what am I, chopped liver? The wallflower at the eighth-grade dance? Again?
you should probably stop going to those you're a little old
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:42 am

As you surely know, o snarky one, I was cracking wise about my own eighth grade experience, but at least now there are more fun "facts" to cite about me for the qbwiki . . . .

Back on thread: those who care should note that the Saturday night of this, April 4, also will see the two semi-finals of the NCAA men's b-ball tourney. Maybe TVs with the sound off in the background?
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Post by AKKOLADE » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 am

ValenciaQBowl wrote:As you surely know, o snarky one, I was cracking wise about my own eighth grade experience, but at least now there are more fun "facts" to cite about me for the qbwiki . . . .

Back on thread: those who care should note that the Saturday night of this, April 4, also will see the two semi-finals of the NCAA men's b-ball tourney. Maybe TVs with the sound off in the background?
borglum all bummed out, leanin against the wall, wanting to check out the dance floor, unsure of ability
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:54 am

Fortunately, my sense of my own value is pretty unassailable, but this thread is showing me that that assessment is probably not shared. Ah, well--I'll be a free agent on the night of this tournament if anyone's looking. Otherwise I'll be happy to watch the Final Four games with the sound on. Screw you guys!!! :::tears, running from room:::
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Kevin » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:19 am

Chris, if you're interested and we can find two more people, I'll team up with you. As I said, I can't promise any ability to play well, but I can certainly write a few extra questions since you said you'd only be able to write a couple.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:41 am

Thanks for rescuing me from the wall, Kevin. If some folks interested in joining us don't show up here in a couple days, I can likely recruit some UF or Valencia people to come aboard.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by recfreq » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:08 pm

I'll play.

I'd love to play with you, Chris, only thing tho is that i'm not sure we both know the dreamer of the dream packet intended. It seems pretty inane to know who the intended dreamer is cuz the questions'd all be guessable, so i'll go ahead and write that dream packet w/o giving away the person yet, and if there's demand, i'll reveal it during the tourney.
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Post by OctagonJoe » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:17 pm

I'm not sure yet if any other Carleton players are interested, so at this point I'll join any team looking for a player. Responses here, at OctagonJoe @ gmail.com, or on the irc will work.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:27 pm

That's awesome, Ray. I'll be honored to join you and add a little to your tremendous film knowledge (which, sadly, will likely not help us much). I'm sure Kevin will be cool with that, too. I've already written ten tosses, but I'm okay with saving them to focus on your dream packet's target.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by theMoMA » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:08 pm

Could we get an update on the number of teams that are planning to play this? It would be nice to hear when we plan to start (awards ceremony will be over by 5:30 according to NAQT; will this start immediately, or after a dinner break?), as well as the number of rounds expected/expected end time.

Many from the MN contingent want to play and write for this, but we're faced with having to make some headway northward in order to get home by a reasonable time on Sunday. It's pretty crucial that we know when the tournament will end in time to make our travel arrangements.
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Post by Frater Taciturnus » Mon Mar 23, 2009 7:28 pm

A.F. wrote:So uh, hey...is anyone staffing this besides Chris? I'll volunteer to staff if needed.

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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by cchiego » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:38 pm

It doesn't look like I'll be able to play in this, but I'll gladly write half a Charles Meigs packet if anyone who wants to play doesn't want to write a full one.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:29 pm

I'm going to cut off new teams signing up for this tournament this Friday, 3/27, so we can work out a schedule. So, if you're interested in being on a team or a free agent or whatever and aren't signed up, please post here by then saying you're writing a packet or looking for teammates. Remember you have to write a packet.

The current field looks like:
Bentley et al
Mik et al
Weiner et al
Borglum et al
Kwartler et al

I imagine we'll have 1-2 more teams at least from the various free agents.

Rounds will probably take 30-35 minutes as we'll probably have to have some people switching between rounds for staffing. The ICT awards ceremony finishes at 5:30, so we'll be starting at 6:00 PM. This will give people time to organize ordering pizza or going out to get food from a place nearby. We'll probably arrange it so teams with Minnesota players have byes later so they'll get the most play time out of this tournament before leaving.

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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by theMoMA » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:36 pm

Will it really take 30-35 minutes if there are no bonuses?
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by OctagonJoe » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:46 pm

I'm still looking for writing teammates if people are still without a team. Frank from Carleton will likely write and possibly play, so a group of 2 looking for teammates would be ideal.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Theory Of The Leisure Flask » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:03 pm

Theory Of The Leisure Flask wrote:I'll be a free agent for this.
Turns out I have zero time to write anything, so I'll take my chances the day of, or just not play.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:39 pm

theMoMA wrote:Will it really take 30-35 minutes if there are no bonuses?
If we're able to get enough staffers it will probably take closer to 25-30 minutes, if not probably more on the order of 30-35 minutes.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by theMoMA » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:02 pm

Are we sure that we have the rooms available to run this tourney? Also, it looks like we're capping it at five teams, then?
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mike Bentley » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:29 pm

theMoMA wrote:Are we sure that we have the rooms available to run this tourney? Also, it looks like we're capping it at five teams, then?
Yeah, it looks like we'll have 5 teams, meaning 5 rounds of play.

If anyone not playing in this tournament has any interest in contributing a handful of questions to a final or something, let me know. Otherwise maybe we'll find some crappy old packet no one has heard to use as a final packet.

I am currently asking NAQT about what the room situation is. If they don't have rooms for us, we'll just play in hotel rooms.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by The Ununtiable Twine » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:08 am

ValenciaQBowl wrote:Thanks for rescuing me from the wall, Kevin. If some folks interested in joining us don't show up here in a couple days, I can likely recruit some UF or Valencia people to come aboard.
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Rothlover » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:44 am

Where those FA teams happening or are people just going to glom to one of the 5 teams?
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Re: GUERRILLA - 4//3/09 or 4/4/09 - Dallas, TX

Post by Mechanical Beasts » Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:49 am

Rothlover wrote:Where those FA teams happening or are people just going to glom to one of the 5 teams?
Seeing as no other Harvard people are playing and I might want to spend some time with my team, so my spot is free if you'd like to take it. I'd also probably still contribute to the packet, so you'd have an easy time of it.
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