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Post by theMoMA » Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:54 am

Minnesota Open Sunday will feature two academic subject events: Eric Mukherjee's science tournament and Mike Cheyne's vanity literature event. Now, it will have a short trash interlude! MO participants and local sports fans named Brian Weikle are encouraged to write 12 sports tossups for a short free-for-all side event to be played free-for-all style. Anyone who writes the tossups is allowed to participate for free; players will read their own tossups and play everyone else's tossups against all of the other competitors.

There are only three rules for writing: 1) adhere to the distribution; 2) write tossups of at least six lines in ten-point TNR with one-inch margins; and most importantly, 3) keep almanacky statistical clues to a minimum in favor of amusing anecdotes. If this means writing a tossup on a team instead of a player, do it. The unnumbered fourth rule is to write tossups that the field will be able to answer (so you should probably keep that thirteen-liner on Chris Widger to yourself).

Here is the distribution, based on some blend of what sports quizbowlers follow and what I deem "important."

3 baseball: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s
3 football: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s; one college; two pro
3 basketball: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s; one college; two pro
1 pro hockey
1 soccer (elite pro or international)
1 other; cannot be any of the above (this can be on sports video games, sports movies, sports in other pop culture media, sports in academia, Olympics, tennis, golf, boxing, wrestling, minor college athletics, auto racing, horse racing, cycling, WNBA, MLS, lacrosse, hotdog eating contests, World Cyber Games, world's strongest man, or, if you must, MMA)

Please post in the thread if you plan on writing for this event. Remember, it's what the Oklahoma City Thunder's swing-forwards and their incredible nicknames would want you to do.

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1) where on earth is this tournament located?
the Mayo Auditorium lobby

2) at what time?
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:08 am

Am I allowed to play without writing anything? Me writing sport questions=laughable results.
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Post by theMoMA » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:34 am

Harper v. Canada (Attorney General) wrote:Am I allowed to play without writing anything? Me writing sport questions=laughable results.
For now, no. I guess if we get enough writers, others could subsidize pizza for everyone in lieu of writing.
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Post by Kanga-Rat Murder Society » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:43 am

I'll write for this. However, it would be nice to see an example of the level of difficulty you want these, seeing as I have no idea how much you know.
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Post by Cheynem » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:43 am

I plan on playing and writing for this. I don't understand why Chris Widger is too hard though. HE COMES UP ALL THE TIME. HE'S IMPORTANT.
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Post by Terrible Shorts Depot » Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:54 am

If I'm at MO, I'm so playing this.
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Post by Demonic Leftovers » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:22 pm

I shall play this.
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Post by Cheynem » Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:37 pm

Also, is Ted's Fine Arts tournament still in the works for this weekend?
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Post by dtaylor4 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:07 pm

Assuming I'm there, I'm doing this. Even if I'm not, I'd be happy to pitch in.

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Post by Coelacanth » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:13 pm

theMoMA wrote:Minnesota Open Sunday will feature two academic subject events: Eric Mukherjee's science tournament and Mike Cheyne's vanity literature event. Now, it will have a short trash interlude! MO participants and local sports fans named Brian Weikle are encouraged to write 12 sports tossups for a short free-for-all side event to be played during lunch.
Is this some passive-aggressive ploy to get me to show up on Sunday so I can help staff the science and lit tournaments?

I think it's a safe bet that I can come up with 12 tossups for this. I mean, if you're going to call me out by name it's the least I can do.

I will probably lose my voice completely reading the MO proper on Saturday, so I can't commit to the other side events.
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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by Jesus vs. Dragons » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:20 pm

Could I possibly just write 12 tossups and email them to you. I am not going to be anywhere near Minnesota, but I wouldn't mind writing 12 sports questions and this would allow someone (i.e. Charlie) to play without writing questions.
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:27 pm

I would gladly take those questions for use.
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Post by MicroEStudent » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:32 pm

I'd also be willing to write questions for this as I won't be able to go to this tournament.

Be advised that this would be my first time question writing, but I would make good use of the ACF question writing guide.
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Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:33 pm

Like Ethan I will not be anywhere near Minnesota. Can I at least contribute questions to this event so it's to make it somewhat a little longer, and possibly allow someone to play without writing?
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Post by naturalistic phallacy » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:22 am

WikiTimeScale wrote:Like Ethan I will not be anywhere near Minnesota. Can I at least contribute questions to this event so it's to make it somewhat a little longer, and possibly allow someone to play without writing?
I, for one, am all for extended lunch breaks.
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Post by Jesus vs. Dragons » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:29 am

Charlie, I will start working on those questions and just email them to you, if you are still interested
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Post by Broad-tailed Grassbird » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:31 pm

theMoMA wrote:Minnesota Open Sunday will feature two academic subject events: Eric Mukherjee's science tournament and Mike Cheyne's vanity literature event. Now, it will have a short trash interlude! MO participants and local sports fans named Brian Weikle are encouraged to write 12 sports tossups for a short free-for-all side event to be played during lunch. Anyone who writes the tossups is allowed to participate for free; players will read their own tossups and play everyone else's tossups against all of the other competitors.

There are only three rules for writing: 1) adhere to the distribution; 2) write tossups of at least six lines in ten-point TNR with one-inch margins; and most importantly, 3) keep almanacky statistical clues to a minimum in favor of amusing anecdotes. If this means writing a tossup on a team instead of a player, do it. The unnumbered fourth rule is to write tossups that the field will be able to answer (so you should probably keep that thirteen-liner on Chris Widger to yourself).

Here is the distribution, based on some blend of what sports quizbowlers follow and what I deem "important."

3 baseball: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s
3 football: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s; one college; two pro
3 basketball: at least two from the 1990s or 2000s; one college; two pro
1 pro hockey
1 soccer (elite pro or international)
1 other; cannot be any of the above (this can be on sports video games, sports movies, sports in other pop culture media, sports in academia, Olympics, tennis, golf, boxing, wrestling, minor college athletics, cycling, WNBA, MLS, lacrosse, hotdog eating contests, World Cyber Games, world's strongest man, or, if you must, MMA)

Please post in the thread if you plan on writing for this event. Remember, it's what the Oklahoma City Thunder's swing-forwards and their incredible nicknames would want you to do.
This is bullshit, hockey is a major part of the sports trash cannon, and this tournament takes place in Minnesota.
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Post by marnold » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:36 pm

Odds & Sods wrote:This is bullshit, hockey is a major part of the sports trash cannon, and this tournament takes place in Minnesota.
Whatever, dude. You'll note there's this little thing called "auto racing" that Andrew didn't even include in the "other" category. Agitating for your (or in the case of racing, my) beloved minor sports' place in the distribution in 12 tossup-rounds is doomed to failure. The question of why pro sports should automatically get double college sports on the other hand...
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:55 pm

Odds & Sods wrote:This is bullshit,
Debatable!
hockey is a major part of the sports trash cannon
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and this tournament takes place in Minnesota.
And is being run guerilla-style, with attendant arbitrary decisions, by someone who doesn't particularly care for hockey. Your point?
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Post by Cheynem » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:01 pm

Well, auto racing should clearly be an acceptable "other" question, I don't think it was intended as an exhaustive list (?).

As for hockey, I would probably argue it deserves a little more love than soccer and "other," and I do think it is a reasonably important part ofthe trash canon. That said, hockey is clearly the least popular of the "Big Four" sports in America and deserves to appear less times than the rest of the Big Three. It's tough with only twelve tossups and no bonuses to be pretty nuanced with dividing everything up fairly.
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Post by marnold » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:35 pm

Cheynem wrote:Well, auto racing should clearly be an acceptable "other" question, I don't think it was intended as an exhaustive list (?).
Well, yeah - I obviously understand that. I'm just saying that "X is an awesome sport for so-and-so reasons and you don't give it the respect you deserve" isn't going to be effective in arguments about this "tournament."
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Post by Camelopardalis » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:22 pm

Hey, if anyone doesn't feel like writing the hockey for their packet, drop me a line at greenwoc AT uoguelph DOT ca, and I'd be more than happy to freelance it for you.
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Post by Matt Weiner » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:56 pm

The fact that this tournament is, in fact, requiring that hockey be asked in every single round, and it is comprising 8.3% of the distribution (ie, at least twice as much as it gets in normal trash tournaments or in the trash portion of NAQT or whatever) might suggest that the organizer of this event agrees with you re: the importance of hockey or the need to include it.
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Post by theMoMA » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:47 am

Matt Weiner wrote:The fact that this tournament is, in fact, requiring that hockey be asked in every single round, and it is comprising 8.3% of the distribution (ie, at least twice as much as it gets in normal trash tournaments or in the trash portion of NAQT or whatever) might suggest that the organizer of this event agrees with you re: the importance of hockey or the need to include it.
Yeah, pretty much this.
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Post by theMoMA » Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:48 am

Also, horse racing, auto racing, and anything I didn't include on that list that pertains to sport and is answerable is fine to write about in the "other" category. I just listed as many idea-starters for people as I could think of.
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Post by Jesus vs. Dragons » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:15 pm

theMoMA wrote:Also, horse racing, auto racing, and anything I didn't include on that list that pertains to sport and is answerable is fine to write about in the "other" category. I just listed as many idea-starters for people as I could think of.
Andrew, I understand that this is the Minnesota Open and it is a difficult tournament, but to what level should these questions be? I played the TRASHional mirrors at UTC, and I remember the difficulty level for that, should that be my target?
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Post by theMoMA » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:08 pm

The difficulty has nothing to do with MO's difficulty. Write questions that you think people will care about and be able to answer, preferably before the end.
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Post by Jesus vs. Dragons » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:21 pm

theMoMA wrote:The difficulty has nothing to do with MO's difficulty. Write questions that you think people will care about and be able to answer, preferably before the end.
Okay thanks. That makes a big difference in writing material lol.
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Post by dtaylor4 » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:49 pm

Bumping this.

How many packets are there going to be?

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Post by theMoMA » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:59 pm

In the spirit of Donald's post, please email me at limozeen@gmail.com if you plan to write a packet for this tournament. People who want to write in twos or threes to cover the distribution are welcome to do so, though obviously this will cut down on the total number of questions.

I will keep a running list of those who have already told me of their plans to write:

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Post by theMoMA » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:16 pm

Since I plan to be an enthusiastic participant of this event, Donald Taylor has graciously agreed to collect the packets. Please randomize and final-edit your packet before you send it to him at dtaylor1987 -at- gmail.com. Donald will be running a mirror in Illinois, so please, send your packets no later than 11:59 PM on Saturday evening.

Also, anyone anywhere is free to mirror this tournament for free. Just get into contact with me and we'll work out having the packets sent to you.
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Post by dtaylor4 » Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:23 pm

theMoMA wrote:Since I plan to be an enthusiastic participant of this event, Donald Taylor has graciously agreed to collect the packets. Please randomize and final-edit your packet before you send it to him at dtaylor1987 -at- gmail.com. Donald will be running a mirror in Illinois, so please, send your packets no later than 11:59 PM on Saturday evening.

Also, anyone anywhere is free to mirror this tournament for free. Just get into contact with me and we'll work out having the packets sent to you.
I actually plan on running the mirror on Saturday, during lunch at Ultima. So, I'd like to have the packets by Friday night.

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Post by Jesus vs. Dragons » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:34 pm

I can't write for this. I am sorry. I planned to have this done before school started back and I never got started, and between studying and homework, I do not feel that I can write 12 quality tossups.
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Post by Terrible Shorts Depot » Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:55 pm

It looks like I won't be playing this. I'll let you know if I'm going to.
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Post by marnold » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:18 am

It's not clear how we're going to organize things on Sunday in terms of when cars will be leaving. I will call myself a tentative yes for now.
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Post by Cheynem » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:53 am

So, er, since MO Sunday can't be started until 11:00, where will this "lunch interlude" now fit in?

I'm almost tempted to argue that people eat a hearty brunch or something, get in at 11 and just bang out the day.
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Post by jready » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:00 am

marnold wrote:It's not clear how we're going to organize things on Sunday in terms of when cars will be leaving. I will call myself a tentative yes for now.
Assuming Chicago is still around, I'll also do this.
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theMoMA wrote:In the spirit of Donald's post, please email me at limozeen@gmail.com if you plan to write a packet for this tournament. People who want to write in twos or threes to cover the distribution are welcome to do so, though obviously this will cut down on the total number of questions.

I will keep a running list of those who have already told me of their plans to write:
-Nathaniel Kane?
I am going to have to rescind my offer to write for this. I am writing for Mike Bentley's tournament and do not want to lose questions for that tournament.
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Post by Coelacanth » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:17 am

I am definitely playing this. My packet is 7-and-a-half-twelfths complete.
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Post by Captain Sinico » Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:17 pm

I'd love to play this if it happens before we have to leave.

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Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:57 am

I am fleeing Minnesota before the start of this tournament, but I would love to help somebody write a packet.
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Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:14 am

Please write mine, I can't write sports questions worth crap.
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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by theMoMA » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:44 am

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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by hartm » Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:59 pm

I will play as well.
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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:11 pm

Please take me off the writer's list because due to the heavy amounts of schoolwork that has been given to me. I am sorry I cannot write for this :sad:

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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by dtaylor4 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:53 am

Bumping this. If your packet is done, please send it to me, as I have no others as of right now. If you have, it may have been caught by my spam filter.

Whoever is in charge of this at the various mirrors, let me know who to send it to and when.

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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by Cheynem » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:10 am

I'll be writing mine sometime probably this weekend. Charlie, is Bruce writing yours for you or would you like some assistance?
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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by dtaylor4 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:03 pm

At this point, I have four packets:

Myself/Chris Greenwood
Jeff Amoros
Mike Cheyne 1
Mike Cheyne 2

If yours is done, email it to me.

EDIT: Whoever is running this at the various sites, let me know who to send the packets to.

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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by Coelacanth » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:12 pm

My packet is essentially done, but I may end up tweaking one or two questions between now and Sunday.

I'll send it to you when I get home this evening, Donald, and if the final version that gets played at the MO site is slightly different, so be it.
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Re: Durantula and Uncle Jeff Present: Guerrilla Sports at MO

Post by dtaylor4 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:42 am

If you plan on sending me a packet, please do it before 3pm tomorrow, so I can get the set sent out. I have no idea whether I will be able to access internet between now and tomorrow.

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