Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by pray for elves » Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:15 pm

By phone call from Bruce Arthur, here's a short version of what happened at the end:

Harvard and Brown were both undefeated heading into the last game of the playoffs; it finished 300-300. Harvard had a protest rejected over a bonus part. Ted gets the tiebreaker. Harvard then went on to win the final with their one-game advantage.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Edward Powers » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:35 pm

Still no stats? Hmmm...Someone is sleeping in this weekend, eh? Oh well, rest IS important! Still, does anyone have any details beyond the fact that Harvard won? For example---what was the order of the next 5 or 6 teams in the Championship round robin? Any specifics would be appreciated.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by millionwaves » Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:42 pm

As I noted in the rules forum, the board staff has set up a hidden discussion forum to facilitate discussion of Penn Bowl. If you'd like to access said forum, send me an e-mail with your username and tell me where you played. It would be cool if you could add the phrase "Penn Bowl" to your e-mail's subject line so that gmail filters it nicely.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Theory Of The Leisure Flask » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:15 pm

Edward Powers wrote:Still no stats? Hmmm...Someone is sleeping in this weekend, eh? Oh well, rest IS important! Still, does anyone have any details beyond the fact that Harvard won? For example---what was the order of the next 5 or 6 teams in the Championship round robin? Any specifics would be appreciated.
I know most of the rest of the team was playing or staffing PB Trash today (I had to beg out to catch up on real work), and the playoff stats aren't entered yet, so it may take a day or two.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Lapego1 » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:16 pm

Sorry for the delay, I haven't really had an elongated period of access to my laptop. This is just prelims, I'll have playoffs done by tomorrow night. Also one of the rounds is funky because I was only able to remedy the Princeton packet in half the rooms, so for the rest if they got more than 16 tossups, I tried to cut it off at 16 so as not to affect bonus conversion--http://results.scobo.net/Penn/pbprelims
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Magister Ludi » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:41 pm

One small correction to the stats. In Harvard's game against NYU B we actually had 14 TUs and not 9. I got 7 TUs (rather than 3) with one neg and Andy got 2 TUs (rather than 1).
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ThisIsMyUsername » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:19 am

Another correction: Yale B's stats have been switched with Princeton B's for our match against them. We beat them 300-205, rather than losing to them 300-205.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Charbroil » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:46 am

May I ask who "Navy" was?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by The Moviegoer » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:52 am

I would guess the Naval Academy. If I'm right, that's pretty awesome.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:56 am

Sedma wrote:I would guess the Naval Academy. If I'm right, that's pretty awesome.
Actually it was Andrew Lim playing solo. Though the U.S Naval Academy from what I understand does have a team because they expressed intrest in coming to the GMU SCT site this year.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Charbroil » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:03 am

Sedma wrote:I would guess the Naval Academy. If I'm right, that's pretty awesome.
Yeah, that was what I was thinking to, and it would make sense, except that they weren't on the original field. Of course, if you're right, then it would be awesome.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:11 am

Army attended ACF Fall this year, didn't it?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Maximus » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:30 am

Also, I'm pretty sure our bonus conversion was higher than 15.61. For example, in the rebracket if ties were broken by bonus conversion, then our bonus conversion had to be higher than brown B's 17.98
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by TheKingInYellow » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:01 am

If it was higher than 17.34, you would have been in the playoffs instead of Rice
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ThisIsMyUsername » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:54 am

If they really used P/B as the deciding factor for rebracketing, Brown B should have made it to the top bracket instead of Rice. If they used PPG as the deciding factor, that explains Rice's making top bracket, but doesn't explain why Yale A was ranked ahead of Brown B and Yale B in the second bracket, since the latter two had higher PPG. Either way, something's off.

Rich, for your P/B stat to be wrong, they would have to have the wrong score for one of your matches. For which match do you think they have the wrong score?

Unfortunately looking through the stats for Yale B a bit more carefully, I have found a lot more errors. In our Round 1 match against State College B, all of my team's buzzes have been attributed to me. One of those tossups should be Daniel's and the neg should be Sam's. In our Round 3 match against NYU A, I had six tossups and two negs, not five tossups and one neg, and Aaron had three tossups, not four, which means that our team has mysteriously lost a neg. The final score was 455-50, not 475-50 as listed. And in our Round 5 match against Columbia A, my stats have been switched with Aaron's.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by fleurdelivre » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:28 pm

Whig's Boson wrote:Army attended ACF Fall this year, didn't it?
Yep.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:16 pm

Are playoff stats going to be available soon?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Rufous-capped Thornbill » Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:16 pm

Total props to Charter for using Age of Empires cheats nicknames.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by grapesmoker » Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:48 pm

Lapego1 wrote:Sorry for the delay, I haven't really had an elongated period of access to my laptop. This is just prelims, I'll have playoffs done by tomorrow night. Also one of the rounds is funky because I was only able to remedy the Princeton packet in half the rooms, so for the rest if they got more than 16 tossups, I tried to cut it off at 16 so as not to affect bonus conversion--http://results.scobo.net/Penn/pbprelims
How about them playoff stats?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by btressler » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:02 am

Inkana7 wrote:Total props to Charter for using Age of Empires cheats nicknames.
Thank you. There were actually five of us, but we just rotated the names.

Is this set posted and/or being discussed somewhere? I sent a note to the admin with Penn Bowl in the title but nothing happened.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by millionwaves » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:59 pm

Bad Boy Bill wrote:
Inkana7 wrote:Total props to Charter for using Age of Empires cheats nicknames.
Thank you. There were actually five of us, but we just rotated the names.

Is this set posted and/or being discussed somewhere? I sent a note to the admin with Penn Bowl in the title but nothing happened.
Hey, sorry, you should be able to see the forum now.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:38 pm

I do ask again when playoff stats "might" be posted?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Lapego1 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:06 am

By the weekend...sorry for the (too long) delay.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by Frater Taciturnus » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:09 pm

Is this set clear now?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by gyre and gimble » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:12 pm

Hey George, the link for 2010 Penn Bowl on the packet archive is 1) broken and 2) leads to a page saying "T-Party" is missing.
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by t-bar » Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:19 pm

gyre and gimble wrote:Hey George, the link for 2010 Penn Bowl on the packet archive is 1) broken and 2) leads to a page saying "T-Party" is missing.
From the page source:

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<li><a href="/archive/TParty2010>2010 T-Party</a></li>
<li><a href="/archive/PennBowl2010>2010 Penn Bowl</a></li>
<li><a href="/archive/2010ACFWinter.zip">2010 ACF Winter</a></li>
It's just missing some close-quotes. The correct URLs are http://collegiate.quizbowlpackets.com/a ... Party2010/ and http://collegiate.quizbowlpackets.com/a ... nBowl2010/

EDIT: further examination of the page source reveals that the link to the zip for RMP Fest 2008 also has a typo (missing a ">" and text to go between the <a> tags):

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<li><a href="/archive/io2008/">Illinois Open 2008</a> <a href="/archive/io2008.zip">[zip]</a></li>
<li><a href="/archive/rmp2008/">RMP Fest 2008</a> <a href="/archive/rmp2008.zip"</a></li>
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by grapesmoker » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:21 pm

Lapego1 wrote:By the weekend...sorry for the (too long) delay.
You post it, you post it!
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by grapesmoker » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:32 pm

Hey, it's been a really long time since this tournament happened! I'm pretty sure these stats exist because things like individual prizes were awarded on their basis. So what gives?
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Re: Penn Bowl 2010 at UPenn (1/30/10)

Post by ... and the chaos of Mexican modernity » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:29 am

Whig's Boson wrote:Army attended ACF Fall this year, didn't it?
I remember seeing them on a SCT stats page at MIT last year. I don't believe they attended ACF Fall because a quick check of the Northeast site of ACF Fall doesn't show West Point for stats.
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