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University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:18 pm
by linaloki
The University of Alabama would like to announce an MUT Mirror tournament to be held on Saturday, March 27, 2010.

Please confirm attendance by Saturday, March 13 by e-mailing us at aaqt@bama.ua.edu. Play will be in Bidgood Hall starting at 8:45 AM, with registration from 8 to 8:30 AM in 30 Alston Hall. Campus map can be found here:

http://tour.ua.edu/map/

Pricing:

Base: $120
Moderators (as needed): -$10
Buzzers: -$5
Travel over 200 miles according to Google maps: -$10
Minimum cost: $95

Interest:
MSU (1-2)
ULL (1)

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:29 pm
by 49-Mile Scenic Drive
You guys are officially awesome for hosting this, put us down for 1 team and 4 buzzers again. A confirmation e-mail will follow shortly.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:37 pm
by Marble-faced Bristle Tyrant
This is awesome.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:00 pm
by The Ununtiable Twine
List of wrestling-based comic books wrote:This is awesome.
Thanks. I knew everyone would think it was awesome. I will take nothing less than full credit for the creation of this tournament since I am the one that recommended that it take place. Just further proof that my ideas are never anything short of awesome.
49-Mile Scenic Drive wrote:You guys are officially awesome for hosting this, put us down for 1 team and 4 buzzers again. A confirmation e-mail will follow shortly.
You have admitted to my awesomeness as well.

--
Yo Sean, sign us up for one, 'k?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:17 pm
by jhn31
I can't think of any reason why we wouldn't bring several teams to this.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:25 pm
by karocker
I think Millsaps will be bringing one team and one buzzer set. I'll confirm soon.

And this is definitely awesome.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:17 pm
by Rococo A Go Go
If we scrape together some funding (either from SGA and/or my bank account) WKU will be bringing 1 team to this.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:32 pm
by karocker
Sadly, Millsaps will not be able to send a team to the tournament. Good luck to everyone who does go though!

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:29 am
by 49-Mile Scenic Drive
2 Questions:

Has there been anymore additions/subtractions from the field? and There is a slight possibility Snead may end up not coming at all or if we do it may just be me solo, is there any type of Solo discount for MUT?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:38 pm
by Rococo A Go Go
Well, we won't be going to this. Good luck to the teams who do.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:12 pm
by linaloki
The only field changes have happened in this thread. I still haven't gotten confirmation from anyone but Snead... And we can talk about any other discounts via e-mail, if you'd like.

Please, if you wish to attend, let us hear back through e-mail ASAP. I'll be sending out an e-mail of our own to check with teams that have interest that hasn't dropped yet.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:31 pm
by 49-Mile Scenic Drive
Well our status is now up in the air, but I will have a definite answer by Monday as to whether or not we'll come or in what form.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:27 pm
by 49-Mile Scenic Drive
As I will note in the e-mail that will be sent shortly (sent it around 9 central on 3/22 and no reply, hope it was received), we will no longer be able to come to this tournament due to various (and apparently recent) conflicts springing up within the team.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:40 pm
by Nineteen99
Hey I'm Zac Perry from UTC. I sent you an email yesterday but I haven't heard back from you so I figured I would try here. I know its late notice but if you can pencil a team in for UTC we will come down Saturday.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:32 pm
by pretzeldude92
Brief Results from today:

1. Alabama
2. Louisiana-Lafayette
3. Northeast Alabama Community College
4. Mississippi State
5. Tennessee-Chattanooga

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:08 pm
by acmagee
pretzeldude92 wrote:
1. Alabama
2. Louisiana-Lafayette
3. Northeast Alabama Community College
4. Mississippi State
5. Tennessee-Chattanooga
Here are the rest of the stats:
http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:26 pm
by Charbroil
You guys only played four games?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:46 am
by acmagee
I only kept the individual stats for the first round robin, which was four games.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:22 pm
by Charbroil
acmagee wrote:I only kept the individual stats for the first round robin, which was four games.
Did you guys keep team stats for the remainder of the tournament? I imagine people would find those interesting even if you didn't keep individual stats.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:19 pm
by pretzeldude92
Charbroil wrote:
acmagee wrote:I only kept the individual stats for the first round robin, which was four games.
Did you guys keep team stats for the remainder of the tournament? I imagine people would find those interesting even if you didn't keep individual stats.
I know that Alabama beat ULL 345-105 in the advantaged final. Alabama was 14-3, with 220 bonus points. ULL was 5-1, with 60 bonus points.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:00 pm
by Kwang the Ninja
pretzeldude92 wrote:
Charbroil wrote:
acmagee wrote:I only kept the individual stats for the first round robin, which was four games.
Did you guys keep team stats for the remainder of the tournament? I imagine people would find those interesting even if you didn't keep individual stats.
I know that Alabama beat ULL 345-105 in the advantaged final. Alabama was 14-3, with 220 bonus points. ULL was 5-1, with 60 bonus points.
There is nothing in that second sentence that I understand. How did Alabama play 17 games while ULL only managed 6?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:06 pm
by Important Bird Area
That sound like "tossups, negs" in the final game.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:16 pm
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Wait, teams only were guaranteed four games?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:19 pm
by Kwang the Ninja
bt_green_warbler wrote:That sound like "tossups, negs" in the final game.
Ah, I'm stupid.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 8:28 pm
by evilmonkey
Jeremy Gibbs Freesy Does It wrote:Wait, teams only were guaranteed four games?
acmagee wrote:I only kept the individual stats for the first round robin, which was four games.
I assume that the use of the word "first" indicates that there were multiple round robins played, yielding more than 4 games.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:19 pm
by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Yeah, but then when people asked for the stats of the other games all we found out were the numbers in the final. Does this mean that there is still another round robin we didn't hear anything about, or does it mean that the use of the word "first" was imprecise and that the only other game held was the final?

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:49 am
by The Ununtiable Twine
Jeremy Gibbs Freesy Does It wrote:Yeah, but then when people asked for the stats of the other games all we found out were the numbers in the final. Does this mean that there is still another round robin we didn't hear anything about, or does it mean that the use of the word "first" was imprecise and that the only other game held was the final?
If there were any additional statistics, they would have been reported by now, logically. Have you ever heard of a tournament that reports less than half of its stats on its forums? Usually when the preliminary stats are done, everything tends to be posted completely and not some mysterious fraction of the tournament. Enough already.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:21 pm
by Cheynem
I've never heard of a tournament that played four games and a final either!

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:35 pm
by Matt Weiner
DarkMatter wrote:If there were any additional statistics, they would have been reported by now, logically.
except for the fact that at least 50% of tournaments don't post their full statistics within the following week
Have you ever heard of a tournament that reports less than half of its stats on its forums?
yes, every weekend
Usually when the preliminary stats are done, everything tends to be posted completely and not some mysterious fraction of the tournament.
people give up on doing stats for the playoffs all the time
Enough already.
Yes, enough already with the Alabama team's half-assed approach to hosting, whether it be running college tournaments on high school questions or deciding that there will be no more stats after round 4 because entering stats isn't causing immense levels of joy at that exact moment. And enough already with non-moderators on the board telling other people what to post.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:48 pm
by mhayes
Yikes.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:40 pm
by The Ununtiable Twine
Matt Weiner wrote:
DarkMatter wrote:If there were any additional statistics, they would have been reported by now, logically.
except for the fact that at least 50% of tournaments don't post their full statistics within the following week
Have you ever heard of a tournament that reports less than half of its stats on its forums?
yes, every weekend
Usually when the preliminary stats are done, everything tends to be posted completely and not some mysterious fraction of the tournament.
people give up on doing stats for the playoffs all the time
Enough already.
Yes, enough already with the Alabama team's half-assed approach to hosting, whether it be running college tournaments on high school questions or deciding that there will be no more stats after round 4 because entering stats isn't causing immense levels of joy at that exact moment. And enough already with non-moderators on the board telling other people what to post.
Well that's already changed for the better, Matt. Given that I have five years of experience of running a quizbowl organization, which does make me one of the longest if not the longest tenured quizbowl presidents in the country, this will change immediately. I state that even though I am not going to be UA's president next year, I can run a quizbowl organization better than most can without even trying as long as I have some manpower. A.J. and I have all the necessary experience, desire, and ability to "turn around" what you call an abomination and I don't necessarily think people appreciate you attacking an organization that you have close to nothing to do with and went through a rough patch in the road. I did my best to help the situation and now that I'm moving, it'll be much easier for me to do so.

I never told anyone what to post -- I just pointed out the immensely unnecessary douchebaggery of the previous poster.

I'm sorry I didn't run through all the statistics ever created so I didn't have that stat available to me -- I don't like lazy statisticians either, trust me, but the forum hounds unnecessarily blew this whole situation out of proportion.

Thanks for your input, as always.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:12 pm
by pretzeldude92
Sorry if I hadn't clarified this earlier, but there was one round robin (4 games), followed by an advantaged final for the top 2 teams, and an additional round robin for the bottom three teams. So, Alabama and ULL played 5 games, and NACC/MSU/UTC plays 6 games.

That said, I don't like tournaments where only 5 games are guaranteed or tournaments which have formats that are decided halfway through or stats that aren't posted with reasonable haste and all of these issues will be rectified next year...

Edited for grammar

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:42 pm
by Charbroil
DarkMatter wrote: I never told anyone what to post -- I just pointed out the immensely unnecessary douchebaggery of the previous poster.
You see, I don't really understand this; Charlie's post wasn't unpleasant at all; all he was asking was whether there were additional round robins the stats of which were not posted, a reasonable question given that both Bryce and I thought so. As Matt expressed quite thoroughly, it's quite normal for tournaments to only post preliminary stats first (or at all); the confusion was perfectly understandable given that your own statistician implied that more round robins existed (which most people took to mean that more round robins of the whole field existed).

Speaking of which, despite what you said, there were additional statistics! (Assuming you kept track of scores for the final/consolation round robin) So wasn't absurd at all to ask whether you might post them at some point.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:22 pm
by millionwaves
Hey, there's nothing productive to be gained by continuing to discussing the posts in this thread. Let's move it back to discussion of the tournament, please.

Re: University of Alabama: MUT Mirror - 3/27/10

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:40 am
by Charbroil
millionwaves wrote:Hey, there's nothing productive to be gained by continuing to discussing the posts in this thread. Let's move it back to discussion of the tournament, please.
Sorry about that. Anyway, do you guys have the team stats for the remaining rounds of the tournament?