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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Auroni » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:04 pm

Bentley Like Beckham wrote:Since it seems there are at least a few people not able to make it on Sunday night, is it possible to run at least a part of this in some hotel rooms on Friday night for the people who can't make it?
If this can be arranged, I want in on this.
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Post by Gautam » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:13 pm

I sense a popular movement. Since it conveniently fits my needs, I want in as well.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:48 pm

Bentley Like Beckham wrote:Since it seems there are at least a few people not able to make it on Sunday night, is it possible to run at least a part of this in some hotel rooms on Friday night for the people who can't make it?
That's not really my decision, I don't think. I'll have to email Jerry about that. If such an event were to occur, I surely wouldn't be able to make it to direct stuff (and I'm not entirely sure about Lloyd).

EDIT: Never mind, it is my decision. I just need to figure out all the logistics behind this and then figure how to execute.

It'd be really great if I got feedback on this. Do people really want this? How many people could make such an event?

Also, Lloyd wouldn't be able to attend either, so I'm not sure how we'd go about directing and stuff.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Edward Elric » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:07 pm

Yeah I mean I am going to commute from my house so I could stay for a while but if this ends up running too late I may need to head out early.
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Post by Javatron » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:10 pm

I will not be playing this due to my withdrawal from CO.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Charbroil » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:10 pm

Bentley Like Beckham wrote:Since it seems there are at least a few people not able to make it on Sunday night, is it possible to run at least a part of this in some hotel rooms on Friday night for the people who can't make it?
Would this be a separate event from the Sunday evening event, or would it be the first part of a unified tournament? If the latter, wouldn't there be an issue with people who can't make it Friday evening?
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:15 pm

Charbroil wrote:
Bentley Like Beckham wrote:Since it seems there are at least a few people not able to make it on Sunday night, is it possible to run at least a part of this in some hotel rooms on Friday night for the people who can't make it?
Would this be a separate event from the Sunday evening event, or would it be the first part of a unified tournament? If the latter, wouldn't there be an issue with people who can't make it Friday evening?
Yeah, this is one of many issues I'm worried about here. I feel like the logistics behind the idea get really complicated. And I really, really wanted to be there when the questions got played. If that sacrifice has to be made because Sunday is just really inconvenient for people, then so be it. The issue with direction and money collection and such persists though.

Edit: Making sense is important.
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Post by Cheynem » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:17 pm

It sounds like the Friday night thing is just people who can't make Sunday at all.
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Post by Mike Bentley » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:20 pm

Cheynem wrote:It sounds like the Friday night thing is just people who can't make Sunday at all.
Yeah, this is my intention. The regular tournament should commence as scheduled for the people who can make it (and anyone who can make it should go to that rather than anything that happens on Friday).
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:29 pm

Bentley Like Beckham wrote:
Cheynem wrote:It sounds like the Friday night thing is just people who can't make Sunday at all.
Yeah, this is my intention. The regular tournament should commence as scheduled for the people who can make it (and anyone who can make it should go to that rather than anything that happens on Friday).
Hmm. There are a variety of questions I have about this though.

1) Do you want that Friday event to still be "organized"? In other words, do you guys just wanna play stuff for fun or organize it and have a winner? Also, I'd be willing to offer a reduction in price ($5 or so, I would guess).
2) Do you want access to all the packets, or just some? I ask this because question security is obviously a big deal and I wouldn't want people to discuss answers or anything like that. At the same time, I'm unsure of whether we'd have enough packets. Say that the entirety of our packets are composed of Portion A and Portion B. If Friday people want to use Portion A, I'm not sure if the actual tournament could be used on just Portion B.
3) Would staffers still be available?
4) Would someone be able to do money collection and such for us, and just give us stuff on Sunday?

Also, what's the probability that people aren't great with logistics and won't realize that they have flights to catch on Sunday night until Sunday night, and subsequently back out of the Sunday event when they probably could have enjoyed the set Friday (not to mention it would mess with us being able to make nice, simply schedules)?

EDIT: I should also probably make it very clear that I'd definitely prefer people playing on Sunday than on Friday. If people absolutely cannot make it Sunday for flight reasons and such, then that's understandable. If they can make both but "just don't feel like playing Sunday" or something, I'll be kind of disappointed.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Auroni » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:41 pm

I believe that we can do this just in a small shootout setting, with alternating readers if an official staffer from the sunday event does not want to come to this. Question security is an understandable problem, but I don't know what could be done on that front other than to just assume good faith from everyone involved.
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Post by abnormal abdomen » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:47 pm

Ice Warrior wrote:I believe that we can do this just in a small shootout setting, with alternating readers if an official staffer from the sunday event does not want to come to this. Question security is an understandable problem, but I don't know what could be done on that front other than to just assume good faith from everyone involved.
This sounds good to me. This will just be a small, sensible group anyway, I take it?

If question security is okay, you guys run this relatively autonomously (I can partition packets in a convenient way for you guys, perhaps, as long as it doesn't take an unreasonable amount of time), and someone can just collect money for us and transfer it to either Lloyd or me on Sunday, then this sounds reasonable.
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Post by theMoMA » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:09 am

Chris White and I are going to team up, now that our teammates have dropped.
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Post by Captain Sinico » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:06 pm

I'm down a teammate so if you want to play with me, let me know.

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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:10 pm

Field

Teams

1) Rom Masrour and Andrew Hart
2) Eric Mukherjee and Evan
3) Charles Hang and Mike Perovanovic
4) Rob Carson and Kevin Koai
5) Ike Jose and David Garb
6) Brendan Byrne and Ray Luo
7) Eric Kwartler and Chris Romero
8) Richard Mason and John Lawrence
9) Mike Cheyne and Greg Peterson
10) Bernadette Spencer and Trevor Davis
11) Aaron Rosenberg and Chris Ray
12) Scot Putzig and Andy Kravis
13) Seth Teitler and Selene Koo
14) Mike Sorice and EMPTY
15) Matt Lafer and Ryan Westbrook
16) Stephen Liu and Jimmy Ready
17)
18)

I imagine we'll cap this at 18 teams and just start collapsing teams from there, unless more people sign up. I'm going to guess that slot 11 is completely empty.

Expressed Friday Interest:

Mike Bentley
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Jonathan Magin

People should sign up ASAP, though I imagine we'll get some more dropouts (and maybe unexpected people who want to play on Sunday night?).
Also, Jerry can't play; this leaves Kevin Koai without a teammate.

Free Agents/People Who Haven't Stated They're on a Team

Dan Donohue
Frank Firke
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Robert Volgman
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Staffers

Carsten Gehring (probably)
Mike Laudermith
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Kevin Malis
Matthew Hoffer-Hawlik
Andrew Deveau (maybe)
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Charlie Rosenthal (probably/partially)
Jordan Hoffmann (likely on stats)
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Flutist Wren » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:01 pm

Your Cup of Robust Tea wrote:Field

11) Ikshu Neithalath and EMPTY (What's going on with this team? Has that entire team dropped from CO, making this an entirely empty slot?)
Yeah, Ikshu was on a team with Dees and Sabrina.
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Post by Terrible Shorts Depot » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:55 pm

I'll probably be able to staff at least part of this on either Friday or Sunday depending on start times.
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Post by magin » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:58 pm

I would love to play the Friday tournament.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Quantum Mushroom Billiard Hat » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:24 pm

I think I said I can staff this, but I would be just as happy to play if someone needs a teammate and there is an excess of staffers.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:39 pm

Unfortunately, due to schedule conflicts, I won't be able to play this with the best high school quizbowler in the nation, so I'm looking for a new partner. Mike Sorice? Kevin Koai? You know you want me, baby.
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Post by Cheynem » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:49 pm

Ukonvasara wrote:We're all out of toner!
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:54 pm

Ukonvasara wrote:Unfortunately, due to schedule conflicts, I won't be able to play this with the best high school quizbowler in the nation, so I'm looking for a new partner. Mike Sorice? Kevin Koai? You know you want me, baby.
Yeah, it looks like I'll be playing the Friday tournament. Anyone interested in an okish music player?
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Post by abnormal abdomen » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:32 pm

Cernel Joson wrote:
Ukonvasara wrote:Unfortunately, due to schedule conflicts, I won't be able to play this with the best high school quizbowler in the nation, so I'm looking for a new partner. Mike Sorice? Kevin Koai? You know you want me, baby.
Yeah, it looks like I'll be playing the Friday tournament. Anyone interested in an okish music player?
From the looks of it it'll just be free for all.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Charbroil » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:40 am

octo wrote:
Your Cup of Robust Tea wrote:Field

11) Ikshu Neithalath and EMPTY (What's going on with this team? Has that entire team dropped from CO, making this an entirely empty slot?)
Yeah, Ikshu was on a team with Dees and Sabrina.
Are you sure that the Dees, etc. team dropped? I saw a post from Jerry after his post dropping that team which asked where Charlie's questions were; I know Dees had some computer issues too, so do we know that Jerry didn't choose to give them some sort of additional dispensation?
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:48 am

Charbroil wrote:
octo wrote:
Your Cup of Robust Tea wrote:Field

11) Ikshu Neithalath and EMPTY (What's going on with this team? Has that entire team dropped from CO, making this an entirely empty slot?)
Yeah, Ikshu was on a team with Dees and Sabrina.
Are you sure that the Dees, etc. team dropped? I saw a post from Jerry after his post dropping that team which asked where Charlie's questions were; I know Dees had some computer issues too, so do we know that Jerry didn't choose to give them some sort of additional dispensation?
Based on what Jerry said in a conversation I had with him, I think they submitted questions but still had to drop out for some reason.
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Post by Captain Sinico » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:15 pm

Having spoken with Charlie, he probably won't be able to make it to Chicago due to some stuff beyond his control (thus my saying upthread that I now need a teammate.)

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Post by Captain Sinico » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:16 pm

Incidentally, I have a couple intriguing offers and will be accepting more until tomorrow.

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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by djayboots » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:03 pm

I'd be glad to play with Rob, Mike, or anyone else needing a teammate, just let me know.

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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:42 pm

Form your teams, people.

Also, given the current room constraints, I will, in fact, make the cap on teams 18.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Kevin Koai and I are playing this together. TOO SLOW, MIKE SORICE.
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Post by Captain Sinico » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:32 pm

YOU WILL LIVE TO REGRET THIS!

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Post by pray for elves » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:12 pm

Is there an established start time for this, or is it just going to be "whenever trash ends"? Will there be a break for dinner before, or is trash going to end early enough that we can play through this before a late dinner?
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Post by Cheynem » Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:59 pm

I'd really push for this to be played as soon as trash ends with no dinner break, as we're high-tailing it as soon as it ends.
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Post by abnormal abdomen » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:28 pm

I emailed Marnold asking about what time CO Trash ends (I've never been to CO, and the idea of successive events is still kind of new to me), but he hasn't responded; do any of you have a rough idea?

Either way, though, unless the end time for that is kinda late (and I realllllly hope it isn't, because we'll be driving back that evening after Lully and I'm assuming it'll be pretty late as it is), I don't see why we shouldn't just play right away. I guess people should just try to bring some food for themselves, unless you guys have any non-significant-amount-of-time-consuming ideas.
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Post by pray for elves » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:44 pm

In past years, CO trash has ended between 4 and 5. Maybe 5:30 at the latest.
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Post by abnormal abdomen » Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:52 pm

Hilarius Bookbinder wrote:In past years, CO trash has ended between 4 and 5. Maybe 5:30 at the latest.
That sounds really good in comparison to what I was expecting (which was like 6-7). Given that, at this point, we'll play a maximum of 14 rounds (though given we'll have 13 normal packets and the one packet of death, 12-13 rounds seems much more likely), and they're just 20 tossups, roughly 7-8 lines each, we shouldn't finish unbearably late, right? Eating dinner after Lully wouldn't be too bad.

EDIT: "late", not "early"
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by marnold » Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:47 pm

Your Cup of Robust Tea wrote:
Hilarius Bookbinder wrote:In past years, CO trash has ended between 4 and 5. Maybe 5:30 at the latest.
That sounds really good in comparison to what I was expecting (which was like 6-7). Given that, at this point, we'll play a maximum of 14 rounds (though given we'll have 13 normal packets and the one packet of death, 12-13 rounds seems much more likely), and they're just 20 tossups, roughly 7-8 lines each, we shouldn't finish unbearably early, right? Eating dinner after Lully wouldn't be too bad.
I responded in the CO Trash thread. Sorry I didn't email you. The only reason I hesitate about saying 5:30-ish is that the rooms situation has the potential to be SUCH a gigantic clusterfuck. Of course I think there's a pretty good chance everything will work out, but having that happen will require people to be alert about what rooms they're going to and responsible about getting there. Since this is a quizbowl tournament and those traits seem all-too rare, I'm worried things will be a complete mess.
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Post by Cheynem » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:28 pm

But with Marnold running the show, it at least will have no danger of being a complete hot mess.
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Post by Mike Bentley » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:23 am

Is there still interest in running this in some form on Friday night for people who can't make it on Sunday? We can use my team's hotel (maybe not necessarily the room) to play this if there's enough interest. We're staying at the Aloft Chicago O'Hare, 9700 Balmoral Avenue, Rosemont, Illinois 60018. I'd be looking to start this after dinner, so around 7 PM. Anyway, let me know if this is something you can attend.
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Post by Gautam » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:09 pm

Yo,

I've recently learned that I will be able to play this again, since I won't have to be in lab on Monday morning. Mike Sorice (or anyone, really) please let me know if you want to team up.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Theory Of The Leisure Flask » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:33 pm

It looks like need to drop from CO due to a family medical emergency, so Andrew is free. Sorry for being all last-minute about this, I was really looking forward to this tournament.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by theMoMA » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:37 pm

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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:02 pm

I probably should have done this a bit earlier, but it'd be nice if people were to inform me of whether they'll have buzzers in their possession during this, and how many they'll have.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by EncyclopediaCDRom » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:01 pm

Andrew Hart has accepted my offer to replace Chris White on his Sunday evening (?) fine arts team. I no longer can borrow either of UIC's buzzer systems, though. By the way, are any of the four events concerned about a lack of laptops? By Sunday night, some laptops might have to leave with their owners.

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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by abnormal abdomen » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:39 pm

EncyclopediaCDRom wrote:Andrew Hart has accepted my offer to replace Chris White on his Sunday evening (?) fine arts team. I no longer can borrow either of UIC's buzzer systems, though. By the way, are any of the four events concerned about a lack of laptops? By Sunday night, some laptops might have to leave with their owners.

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Wait, what? Are laptops really such a necessity (aside from my stats guy)? I mean, I assume some of my readers will be using their own laptops anyway, but I was under the assumption that people are okay with reading from a hard copy.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Cheynem » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:02 pm

If you've got the hard copies ready to roll, then I can't see this being that big a deal.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by jready » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:12 pm

Your Cup of Robust Tea wrote:I probably should have done this a bit earlier, but it'd be nice if people were to inform me of whether they'll have buzzers in their possession during this, and how many they'll have.
I can provide Chicago's two buzzer systems.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by Jane Fairfax » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:14 pm

We would like to know which staffers have laptops.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by cornfused » Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:29 pm

I'll have my buzzer system with me.
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Re: CO Side Event: The Jean-Baptiste Lully Memorial

Post by sds » Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:42 pm

Jane Fairfax wrote:We would like to know which staffers have laptops.
I'll have mine on Sunday. Michigan buzzers will be sticking around, as well.
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