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Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:47 pm
by Pilgrim
I'm interested in playing this and am looking for a teammate who doesn't care about winning games.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:51 pm
by gyre and gimble
Pilgrim wrote:I'm interested in playing this and am looking for a teammate who doesn't care about winning games.
Want to team up? I'm not expecting to win either.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:57 pm
by Maximus
Gypsy punk wrote:Want to play; searching for a teammate.
EDIT: Want to team up, Rich?

Yeah, sounds good.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:26 pm
by No Rules Westbrook
I'll play.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:51 pm
by Pilgrim
gyre and gimble wrote:
Pilgrim wrote:I'm interested in playing this and am looking for a teammate who doesn't care about winning games.
Want to team up? I'm not expecting to win either.
Sure.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:43 pm
by Jane Fairfax
I am no longer playing this solo. Instead I will play with Nolan Winkler

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:23 am
by Boeing X-20, Please!
Jane Fairfax wrote:I will continue to play this solo, but Nolan Winkler will pretty much just sit there next to me for the day

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:53 pm
by MLafer
Ryan Westbrook and I are teaming up for this.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:39 pm
by Dan-Don
Utahraptor wrote:
Jane Fairfax wrote:I will continue to play this solo, but Nolan Winkler will pretty much destroy your subdistro of dinosaur-related lit

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:52 pm
by EncyclopediaCDRom
In case my teammate from the past three CO Saturday night/Sunday morning lit doubles is unavailable that weekend, I am also adding my name to this free agent pool.

Watching IndyCar from Kansas instead of the Kentucky Derby this Saturday,
Rom

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:15 pm
by The Moviegoer
Hey, looks like I'm playing this with Greg Peterson

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:38 am
by Cheynem
I think I still need a partner for this.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:02 am
by marnold
Cheynem wrote:I think I still need a partner for this.
Wanna team up?

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:21 am
by Mike Bentley
Can someone make a decision soon about whether this tournament or the arts tournament is going to be taking place on Saturday?

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:47 am
by Cheynem
Sure, Marnold.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:17 pm
by jdd2007
I want to play this tournament.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:03 pm
by Nicklausse/Muse
I'm out; this leaves Ahmad Ragab without a teammate.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:03 pm
by SnookerUSF
Nicklausse/Muse wrote:I'm out; this leaves Ahmad Ragab without a teammate.
:sad: Yes, it does... Anybody interested in teaming up?

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:35 pm
by ulls66
I'd like to play this- care to team up, Ahmad?

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:14 am
by SnookerUSF
ulls66 wrote:I'd like to play this- care to team up, Ahmad?
Absolutely! I just saw this, so sorry for the late reply.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:25 am
by Strongside
Jacob Durst and I have agreed to play this together.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:35 pm
by Ike
Hey guys, I thought I would answer a few questions, and have some updates on the progress of this tournament.

As of 17 seconds ago I counted 166 questions written, with 134 more to go. This does not include any questions Shantanu is sitting on and has not pasted into the document, so we may have even less to write. Of those, I would say only 10% or so need some minor editing, with maybe 1-2% needing a full re-write.

Teams can still sign up. I encourage everyone to sign up. Please do so!
Also I need more moderators to sign up. Please o please sign up.

A few points of clarification that people have asked:

Q: So what's the distribution exactly?
A: More or Less:
25% American
25% British
25% European
7% Classics
7% Non-fiction
10% World
1% Fill in the Holes / Misc. TrAsH!

Q: Why shaft the world l--?
A: Its simple. With the current distribution of literature, you can expect someone absolutely marginal (to use someone Jerry expresses distaste for, not me) Oe Kenzaburo to come up every tournament. To offer an example, from my personal experience, I have spoken with native speakers who read stuff in Japanese quite a bit, and while they are aware of many authors that come up in quizbowl in the Japanese lit distribution, there are a lot (like Oe) who just they have no fucking idea about. Therefore, the reduction in world lit will 1) Limit these authors from coming up often and 2) make it so you can't really predict which world lit author is going to come up and 3) Ask about world lit that is potentially read.
Another thing to chew on: Its very possible to read a poem by say, Walter Landor, in an introductory British poetry course, while going through your entire college career and not having read anything by Oe Kenzaburo for a class. Given the how the opposite is actually true in quizbowl because you can go to ACF Fall and hear about Oe, but go to ACF Nats and not hear about Landor, its not hard to figure out why I'm doing this.

Q: I'm some dude who Ike doesn't think exists because I have read all novels by Oe (and Ousmane Sembene coincidentally), and I want my points!
A: The move on my part isn't about eliminating a certain topic unilaterally, its about getting people to get points for stuff they have more plausibly read.

Q [By an obnoxious dude who thinks they are better than a certain High School Quizbolwer, but who actually isn't]: You should have a 2:1 work to creator ratio.
A: We have all answer choices locked down, and the rest for me to do is to write the tossups, ditto Shantanu, therefore it doesn't look like we are changing all that much at this point. There have been a few people who have made some very thought-provoking suggestions such as adopting a pluralistic model of writing, and I appreciate it. If you have something relatively intelligent you want to talk about, do so by emailing me or posting in this thread.

Q: What's exactly in the non-fiction distribution?
A: I don't like spelling it out what's inside the box exactly, but remember Jerry's idea about asking about stuff that's not captured within the existing framework? Think like that. You can help yourself by looking at last year's lit tournament for CO, with tossups on The Art of War and Origin of Species to also get another element of what's inside the non-ficiton box.

Q: How hard is this tournament again?
A: Hard. If you are an average lit player, you will be able to get a lot of the tossups at the end guaranteed. There will be easy answers, a few medium, hard, harder, and a few "WTF" answers once in a while.

Q: How many packets are you making?
A: 300 divided by 20 is 15. However, it may be possible I will make 25 question rounds and settle for 12 packets. That depends on how many people sign up.

Q: I'm someone who isn't playing CO Lit and would like to assist / write a few questions.
A: We are ahead of schedule by I think two weeks, and have all answers planned out and our writing assignments have been split appropriately. That said, if you want to write a few tossups on whatever you like, send me an email, and maybe we can work something out.

Q: How awesome are the prizes and how many do you have?
A: After playing theannual book edition of super market sweep, in which you shove in as many books into a box as you can for five dollars two times in a row, I have so many that its likely the winning team will get like 4-5 books per a player. Oh and whatever I have leftover after I give prizes to the runner up and top scorers, I'd be willing to sell for a very cheap amount so I can make my 10 bucks back and more.

Q: Book Edition of Super Market Sweep?
A: Its the Case Western Reserve Annual Book Sale. They sell a lot of really good things over the course of the four days its on, but the last day is Super Market Sweep Day. It's pretty bad-ass. I'll make a post on HSQB next year in the off-topic section when it rolls around, but this year it was exactly one week before the HSNCT. Perhaps if it were the same weekend, people driving back from Chicago can catch the Discount Day on Monday or Super-Market Sweep Day on Tuesday.

Q: How are you writing this tournament?
A: By reading books first hand whenever possible, otherwise secondary sources. I will talk a lot about this in the discussion thread when this tournament is over.

Q: I have a question.
A: Sure, email me or post in this thread, and I will respond. I want people to get all the information they want to know about this tournament before they play it.

Ike

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:07 pm
by Cheynem
Just to clarify: You don't have me and Marnold in the field.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:59 pm
by recfreq
sorry Mike, i just checked this post like now! from Okinawa!
still need teammate...

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:01 pm
by Matt Weiner
recfreq wrote:sorry Mike, i just checked this post like now! from Okinawa!
still need teammate...
Would you like to play this tournament with me, Ray Luo?

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:35 pm
by grapesmoker
This is a weird question but: did I ever agree to play this tournament with someone? I have no recollection of doing so, but that doesn't mean I didn't. So if I agreed to play this tournament with you, please let me know.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:45 pm
by recfreq
It'd be an honor to play with you, Matt.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:46 pm
by Ike
I have you down with Gautam, Jerry, who made a post earlier saying he's playing with you.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:30 pm
by EncyclopediaCDRom
I remain eager as a free agent, but I now count 23 teams (45 players). If Carsten or Charlie from Carleton are still looking for a teammate, I am particularly interested.

Fearing for CPS students on the streets even more,
Rom

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:43 am
by OctagonJoe
EncyclopediaCDRom wrote:I remain eager as a free agent, but I now count 23 teams (45 players). If Carsten or Charlie from Carleton are still looking for a teammate, I am particularly interested.

Fearing for CPS students on the streets even more,
Rom
Since this tournament is taking place Saturday night, I'll be teamed up with Mike Bentley. I don't know if Charlie has a teammate yet.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:26 pm
by naturalistic phallacy
I can staff this.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:13 pm
by Edward Elric
So Mark backed out on this so I might just end up staffing unless someone is interested in teamming up.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:59 am
by kdroge
I should be able to play this, though it's not 100% because of the cars/travel times situation yet. If I show up, can I join a team/ form a team at the site? If not, I may just end up staffing if I can stay.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:43 pm
by Ike
I will be making schedules with +/-2 teams than announced in this thread. So most likely yes.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:10 pm
by Javatron
I will not be playing this due to my withdrawal from CO.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:52 pm
by alkrav112
I also have to drop this, as I just got tickets to see Renee Fleming Saturday night in Highland park. I believe Scot has plans to team up with Kurtis instead, but I cannot confirm this.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:51 pm
by goblue16
alkrav112 wrote:I also have to drop this, as I just got tickets to see Renee Fleming Saturday night in Highland park. I believe Scot has plans to team up with Kurtis instead, but I cannot confirm this.
Confirmed. Kurtis and I will be playing this together now.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:59 pm
by cornfused
Craig had to drop out, so I'm now playing with Charles Hang.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:09 pm
by Mr. Kwalter
It recently occurred to me that with Charlie Dees no longer attending the tournament, I no longer have a partner for this. If you are interested in being my partner, email me (ekwartler at gmail dot com). My one condition is that if I tell you to put down your buzzer so we don't risk losing a match on a neg, you obey.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:36 am
by Ike
Hi everyone,

Double check to make sure your names are on the running list if you have formed a team. That will be my official list for when i devise up schedules. Due to limited resources, its very possible that if you aren't signed up on that list and don't tell me until tournament day, you will not be able to play.

Thanks
Ike

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:31 am
by sds
You'll want to drop the Sabrina/Ikshu team from your list, as I believe they're no longer coming.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:12 am
by cornfused
You've got Charles Hang listed with me (correctly) and as a free agent.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:16 pm
by EncyclopediaCDRom
If the Sabrina/Ikshu team has indeed withdrawn, there are still 23 teams. I could presumably make a convenient 24th team with any other remaining free agents (e.g. Graham Moyer and/or Jeremy of Rutgers). Greg Peterson and Charles Hang have indeed combined, and I understand that Charlie Rosenthal and Eric Kwartler have done so likewise.

Happy 41st anniversary to Apollo 11,
Rom

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:27 pm
by Ike
Will update, that free agent list is a bit wrong. You'd do your best to contact them correctly, as I'm sure Graham isn't coming.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:52 pm
by Papa's in the House
Ike wrote:Will update, that free agent list is a bit wrong. You'd do your best to contact them correctly, as I'm sure Graham isn't coming.
It appears to be more than "a bit wrong." If you're post in the logistics thread is correct, then you may want to keep track of who you have reading as well. I will restate that I can read for this event.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:26 pm
by The Atom Strikes!
Hey, Chris Romero and I want to play this.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:03 pm
by Ike
It appears to be more than "a bit wrong." If you're post in the logistics thread is correct, then you may want to keep track of who you have reading as well. I will restate that I can read for this event.
Yeah I know, I should update that as well
Ike

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:26 pm
by Terrible Shorts Depot
EncyclopediaCDRom wrote:I understand that Charlie Rosenthal and Eric Kwartler have done so likewise.
Yeah, Eric and I are playing together.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:13 am
by Ike
This set was officially finished three hours ago. Suck it, Minnesota! The rest of my work for this tournament will be planning it logistically, I can say that unless a cascade of rooms in one building opens up we are looking at a shootout format, despite my uber-high desire to want to do Round Robin. 24 teams is an excellent number, but if we do the shootout format I will desire is a multiple of four. Therefore, from this point out, if you want to play I'll put you on standby unless I get four teams (or four people playing by themselves, or three teams and I'll see what I can do the scrounge up a fourth) And if I do get four more teams to sign up, I express sincere doubt at finding 14 buzzers and and 14 rooms, (14 readers isn't that big of a deal since we could be using bye rounds to fill rooms) so plan for a shootout if that happens.

Re: CO Lit 2010

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:59 am
by Gautam
Ike wrote:This set was officially finished three hours ago. Suck it, Minnesota!
We don't get millions of hours in the summer to finish our sets, man.