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NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Edward Powers » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:04 pm

NY/NJ Date Claims for 2012-2013: Tournament Announcements will be collectively posted here.

Color Code:

Black=Regular Tournaments in the Area;
Green= Major Regional Tournaments that Might be of Interest to Local teams;
Blue= Major National Tournaments;
Orange=Important Non-Competitive Information



September 8:
September 15:
September 22:Fall Tournament @ MIT, Cambridge, Massachussetts (On NAQT IS 119A)
September 29: Pirate Open @ SH Prep, (NAQT 119A) - Results

October 6:SAT PHSAT @ Princeton (NAQT 118) - Results
October 13: Fall Novice @ Hunter (SCOP) - Results
October 20:PSAT LIFT XII @ Kellenberg (NAQT 120) - Results; U of Delaware Housewritten Set
October 27: ACT; Bergen Junior II (middle school); FACT @ Yale (NAQT 121A) - Results; The Cavalier Classic @ UVa.

November 3: SAT; ACF Fall College Tournament (HS teams eligible; Site Harvard); Charter's CSWIFT@ Wilmington
November 10:Harvard's HFT VII
November 17: Southern NJ NHBB @ Monsignor Donovan, (NHBB C) - Results
November 24: Thanksgiving Weekend

December 1: SAT
December 8: ACT; Newtown HS Invitational @ Newtown, Ct. (on an HSAPQ Set)
December 15: GSAC XX @ Saint Joseph - Results; Westchester NHBB @ White Plains (NHBB B) - Results
December 22 & 29: Christmas/Holiday Break

January 5: Scarsdale Tournament (NAQT 123A) - Results
January 12:
January 19: Northern NJ NHBB @ Ridgewood (NHBB B) - Results
January 26: QUAC IV @ UPenn - Results, SAT

February 2: Ranney NAQT Tournament (On IS 121A; cancelled, may be rescheduled); E.O. Smith's Invitational (On NAQT 124)
February 9: ACT
February 16:Presidents' Week/Winter break
February 23:NHBB NJ State Championships @ Princeton University (on an A Set)

March 2: Bloomfield's BATE (on IS 124); BHSAT @ Yale University (housewritten)
March 9: SAT A HS Mirror of LIST @ Columbia University
March 16: Livingston's March Madness (on Set IS 122); LI NHBB @ HHH West (on a C Set)
March 23: King's Park Annual KPNAQT (On Set IS 125A); Blue Hen Invitational @ Newark, Delaware
March 30: Passover/Easter/Spring Break

April 6: Prison Bowl @ Hunter College HS in NYC
April 13: ACT; NAQT Metro-NY State Championships (tentative)
April 20: New Jersey NAQT State Championship @ Princeton University
April 26-28: The NHBB National Championships @ Washington, DC (date changed from original)

May 4: SAT
May 11:
May 18:
May 24-26:HSNCT@ The Hyatt Regency Hotel in Atlanta

June 1:SAT
June 7-9:PACE's NSC @ The University of Maryland, College Park, Md.
June 14-16: HSAPQ's NASAT @ Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio
June 22:
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Re: 11/17/2012 - TWELTH ANNUAL JBMAT AT MILLBURN HS

Post by urbanpf » Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:55 am

Ed,

Please add (as tentative) on 11/17/2012 the Twelfth Annual Joseph Bookstaber Memorial Academic Tournament. Thanks!

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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by BroNi » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:32 pm

You may want to add the PSAT date of 10/20 to the list.

LIFT would like to claim a date, but first we would like to run a little poll to see which would be more preferential to our local schools.

We could run LIFT on 10/20/12 (PSAT date) or on 11/10/12 (same date as HFT). We are leaning more to the 10/20 date, but please opine....to me at bronigel at kellenberg.org.

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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:52 pm

Stony Brook's plans to host, well, any tournament at all have fallen through, so if there are any new good quiz bowl tournaments on LI this year it most likely won't be through us.
That said, I'll probably be able to moderate for any tournament on the island and maybe some in New Jersey.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:08 pm

Irvington plans on hosting something at some point, as an introductory pyramidal tournament to Westchester. We would prefer to use an easy set like an A set or mirror a set that isn't too hard. But as all the A sets will be used at some point and I don't know what sets are the best to use for introductory tournaments. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by No Electricity Required » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:26 pm

ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:Irvington plans on hosting something at some point, as an introductory pyramidal tournament to Westchester. We would prefer to use an easy set like an A set or mirror a set that isn't too hard. But as all the A sets will be used at some point and I don't know what sets are the best to use for introductory tournaments. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I would think LIST III or even an HSAPQ set would be great options that have good track records of accessibility.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Down and out in Quintana Roo » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:30 pm

No Electricity Required wrote:
ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:Irvington plans on hosting something at some point, as an introductory pyramidal tournament to Westchester. We would prefer to use an easy set like an A set or mirror a set that isn't too hard. But as all the A sets will be used at some point and I don't know what sets are the best to use for introductory tournaments. Does anyone have any suggestions?
I would think LIST III or even an HSAPQ set would be great options that have good track records of accessibility.
We've used hsapq sets at CR the last three years with great success and with many compliments by younger and less experienced teams.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Northern Central Railway » Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:59 pm

ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:Irvington plans on hosting something at some point, as an introductory pyramidal tournament to Westchester. We would prefer to use an easy set like an A set or mirror a set that isn't too hard. But as all the A sets will be used at some point and I don't know what sets are the best to use for introductory tournaments. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Don't be so sure all the A sets will get used in the area at some point. Only 2 (112A at HHHW and 114A at Kings Park) got used in the area last year while the other three weren't. Although the other 3 were used in New York, they were all upstate New York and had no overlapping teams with the Lower Hudson/NJ/Long Island area.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:22 am

i was under the impression that there were only 3 A sets. anyway Scarsdale is planning a tournament, so if they want to use an a set then we're probably not going to stop them. does anyone know how i would go about acquiring a HSAPQ packet to use for the tournament? i was leaning towards HSAPQ anyway
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Important Bird Area » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:53 am

There will be five A-sets available for 2012-13.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by No Electricity Required » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:56 am

ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:does anyone know how i would go about acquiring a HSAPQ packet to use for the tournament? i was leaning towards HSAPQ anyway
Here.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by etakuyak » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:03 pm

Scarsdale, should we be able to secure a packet set, would be hosting an NAQT tournament on January 12. I'm not sure when things qualify to be put on the schedule, but that's at least our plan for now.

EDIT: We are also bidding to host Metro NYC- NAQT States April 13. Same constraints as above apply.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Great Bustard » Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:18 pm

NHBB Northern New Jersey (i.e. the tournament at Ridgewood that I will direct) will be Jan. 19. I was hoping for a fall date, but the only 2 that would have worked for the school were 11/10 and 11/17 which are both already claimed. The NJ State Championships will likely be in late February or early March, so at least we're looking at 6-8 weeks between the two, as opposed to 3 last year.
Other NHBB tournaments in the area will include Long Island, Connecticut, Westchester, Southern NJ, a New York City tournament on a Sunday, and possibly a second South Jersey, a Rockland/Orange County tournament, a Brooklyn or Queens tournament, and a Staten Island tournament. These are dependent on finding host schools, directors, dates, etc. Updates will be posted here and at historybowl.com as confirmed dates come in.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by jonpin » Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:32 pm

I'm not sure if BOAT V will exist in the spring. I'm also not yet sure if BAJAC II will be held; but if so, it'll probably be a Saturday in October or November. Our middle school math team meets on Sunday, so that's why we'd lean towards Saturday, but it will depend on other school events, including all of our school's open houses.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by BroNi » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:56 am

Long Island Fall Tournament (LIFT) XII will be held on 10/20/12 at Kellenberg Mem. HS in Uniondale, NY. We will be using a NAQT IS set. More info to follow.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by SHP Pirate » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:41 pm

The Seton Hall Prep Pirate Open will be held on Saturday, September 29. We will be using an NAQT A-set with NJ/NYC/Long Island exclusivity. Full details coming soon.
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Post by Great Bustard » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:56 pm

NHBB Westchester County will be Saturday, Dec. 15 at White Plains High School - that was their preferred date.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by roey » Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:55 pm

Ranney will be hosting an NAQT tournament, tentatively scheduled for February 2nd. I'm not sure yet what type of set we will use, and our administration has informed us that it is possible that the date could change though.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by youngster68 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:39 am

Hunter is looking at March 2 for Prison Bowl VI and October 27 for our Fall Novice Tournament. Happy summer, all!

EDIT: Should have read that more carefully - I'll try and move our October date to avoid conflict with FaCT.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Edward Powers » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:06 am

Coach Young,

I will post the Prison Bowl date claim for March 2nd, but wait for further instructions on your preferred date for your Fall Novice Tournament.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by czheng0708 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:45 pm

Great Neck South is looking into planning its very own tournament this upcoming school year. Dates are being discussed, so nothing is finalized yet. Probably going to a housewrite tournament. Any thoughts/suggestions?
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Post by ryanrosenberg » Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:56 pm

czheng0708 wrote:Great Neck South is looking into planning its very own tournament this upcoming school year. Dates are being discussed, so nothing is finalized yet. Probably going to a housewrite tournament. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Don't housewrite; at the very least, not on your own. Your team is still relatively young and inexperienced, although you do have a strong program developing. Look to collaborate with another school (this thread would be useful to coordinate with other) that wants to write, work with them to find an experienced editor, and put in the time necessary to create a good set. See this for just how much work it takes to do a housewrite.

My advice is to, instead of housewriting, use a set from HSAPQ, which consistently turns out high-quality sets but didn't have a ton of mirrors in the NY/NJ region last year. This would allow GNS to devote more time to actually running your first tournament ever smoothly, which is never as easy as it seems. In the meantime, you could start writing tossups as a team and starting that long journey to becoming good writers. It takes a long time to be capable of writing a good set, and especially for a young team, it often makes sense to wait a year or two and gain necessary experience.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 12:14 am

Please do not housewrite. Read this - viewtopic.php?f=117&t=13255 - and run any of the billion other existing sets that aren't getting mirrored in New York, please.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Irreligion in Bangladesh » Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:26 am

czheng0708 wrote:Great Neck South is looking into planning its very own tournament this upcoming school year. Dates are being discussed, so nothing is finalized yet. Probably going to a housewrite tournament. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Ryan and Charlie both interpreted your post as "we're going to write our own set," while I interpreted it as "we're going to mirror somebody else's housewrite, rather than buy an NAQT or HSAPQ set." Clarify, please?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by SHP Pirate » Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:26 pm

Just saw the preliminary NAQT schedule for next year. Both Livingston and Bloomfield are hosting tournaments on the same date in March? Could someone please clarify?

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Post by Edward Powers » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:12 pm

Your guess is as good as mine. Hopefully something can be worked out so local teams can play both IS Sets.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by czheng0708 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:19 pm

in on these shenanigans wrote:
czheng0708 wrote:Great Neck South is looking into planning its very own tournament this upcoming school year. Dates are being discussed, so nothing is finalized yet. Probably going to a housewrite tournament. Any thoughts/suggestions?
Ryan and Charlie both interpreted your post as "we're going to write our own set," while I interpreted it as "we're going to mirror somebody else's housewrite, rather than buy an NAQT or HSAPQ set." Clarify, please?
We were planning on writing our own packets, but based off of what Ryan and Charlie have both said, we may look into buying sets. With that being said, we still may be writing tossups and bonuses for our own tournament.

Ryan and Charlie, thank you for the input. I'll see what my captains say about it.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:42 pm

How would you be constructing the tournament with just tossups? Would you buy bonuses from somebody else?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Lightly Seared on the Reality Grill » Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:16 pm

SHP Pirate wrote:Just saw the preliminary NAQT schedule for next year. Both Livingston and Bloomfield are hosting tournaments on the same date in March? Could someone please clarify?

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Two schools that don't really communicate with other teams (including one that's been conflicting with Prison Bowl consistently with no apparent regrets) scheduling for the same day? No surprise there. (EDIT: Now that I've heard about what happened with Bloomfield's scheduling, I regret saying this. And hey, it doesn't conflict with Prison Bowl this time!)
Did anyone from NAQT actually look at the requests before confirming both of these tournaments?
And I'm going to third the notion that the guys at GNS should not be writing their own tournament.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:03 am

To make matters complicated, Yale has recently found out that its traditional weekend for BHSAT is blocked off. We too were therefore planning to host on March 2, and were going to announce as such this week, but didn't see Mr. Young's most recent post until we were just about to do so and it was too late.

Mr. Young, please respond to my communication soon. We hope to have many NY/NJ teams in attendance by finding a proper date on which most NY/NJ teams aren't committed elsewhere, while keeping college tournament date strictures in mind, and will keep the public updated as details emerge.
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Post by Important Bird Area » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:16 am

William Crotch wrote:Did anyone from NAQT actually look at the requests before confirming both of these tournaments?
We have written to the coaches involved in this conflict. One or the other of the tournaments will move to a different weekend; we're just not sure which.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by jonpin » Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:18 pm

nationalhistorybeeandbowl wrote:NHBB Northern New Jersey (i.e. the tournament at Ridgewood that I will direct) will be Jan. 19. I was hoping for a fall date, but the only 2 that would have worked for the school were 11/10 and 11/17 which are both already claimed. The NJ State Championships will likely be in late February or early March, so at least we're looking at 6-8 weeks between the two, as opposed to 3 last year.
Other NHBB tournaments in the area will include Long Island, Connecticut, Westchester, Southern NJ, a New York City tournament on a Sunday, and possibly a second South Jersey, a Rockland/Orange County tournament, a Brooklyn or Queens tournament, and a Staten Island tournament. These are dependent on finding host schools, directors, dates, etc. Updates will be posted here and at historybowl.com as confirmed dates come in.
HistoryBowl.com has the Ridgewood tournament on February 2 and the state championship on February 23, which is EXACTLY the same three week gap we had last year. Could you confirm which dates are accurate?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by youngster68 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:06 pm

Matt - sorry for not getting back to you sooner. We will move Prison Bowl, please go ahead with the March 2 plan for Bulldog. And expect to see us there!

I'm not sure where either of our tournaments will go now, and I missed that there is no more FNT. So hopefully we will mirror SCOP sometime in the Fall and PB may or may not conflict with Bloomfield again. We'll figure it out.

Ed, for now you can take Prison Bowl off the list and we'll figure out the date at some future date. :wink:
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Edward Powers » Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:32 pm

I have removed Prison Bowl from its March 2nd claim, and since Coach Young requested this in deference to Yale's annual BHSAT, I have tentatively placed the Bulldog in Hunter's vacated March 2nd spot and I will leave it there pending word from Matt Jackson about Yale's preferred date.

EDIT: Matt has just posted on the New England Date Claim Site that the BHSAT is tentatively scheduled for March 2nd, so I will keep it listed as tentative on this calendar as well unless & until informed otherwise.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by SHP Pirate » Fri Jul 13, 2012 6:25 pm

Thanks, Ed. Without my glasses on, I did not even notice that I was in the New England forum!
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by youngster68 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:13 pm

Hunter will stake a claim to Nov 10 for our Fall tournament and Apr 6 for Prison Bowl.

EDIT: I meant Oct 13 for the Fall tournament - not sure how Oct 13 became Nov 10 in my head...summer thinking abilities. Sorry for the mixup.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by huatzer shiangtsay » Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:24 pm

There's very little chance Stuy will be allowed to host a tournament. I could try self immolation in front of the administrators. Don't worry about me getting burned; they'll be pissing on me like always, so it should get put out pretty quickly.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Edward Powers » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:38 pm

Coach Young,

October 13 and April 6 have been claimed for Hunter College HS for your Fall & Prison Bowl Tournaments, as per your request.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by jonpin » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:48 pm

I look forward to the likelihood that I'll finally be able to attend a Prison Bowl. Do you know what set you're using for your Fall Novice tournament, Stephen?

I hope to announce BAJAC II before the end of our summer camp. I'll try to avoid our circuit's HS tournaments, but there are other local date conflicts I need to watch out for as well.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by Edward Powers » Sun Jul 22, 2012 1:09 am

Any news on the conflict between Bloomfield & Livingston, each using separate NAQT IS Sets (124 & 122, respectively) on the same date, March 16, 2013?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by marianna » Sun Jul 22, 2012 6:49 pm

jonpin wrote:Do you know what set you're using for your Fall Novice tournament, Stephen?
It'll be a mirror of SCOP.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:55 am

Is the Hunter Novice Tournament a Frosh/Soph tournament?
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by marianna » Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:12 pm

ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:Is the Hunter Novice Tournament a Frosh/Soph tournament?
We will be using the same eligibility rules as our FNT mirror last year, so it'll be open to anyone in their first or second year of HS quiz bowl who haven't gone to NSC or HSNCT yet.

We'll make an official announcement sometime soon. Announced here.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:19 pm

first or second year of HS quiz bowl
Does :chip: count as HS quiz bowl? Does NHBB? I am asking because there are a couple of players that are eligible if they do but aren't if they don't.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by marianna » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:41 pm

ProfessorIanDuncan wrote:Does :chip: count as HS quiz bowl? Does NHBB? I am asking because there are a couple of players that are eligible if they do but aren't if they don't.
For this tournament, no. We're counting HS quiz bowl as anything NAQT, mACF, or of that sort. Single-subjects like NHBB don't count.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by dlondon » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:25 pm

Princeton will tentatively claim October 6th for our fall tournament using either an NAQT IS or A-level set.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by jonpin » Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:33 am

Bergen Academies is claiming Saturday, October 27 for our second annual middle-school competition. Announcement to follow.
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by t-bar » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:11 pm

MIT's September 22 tournament is now officially happening (thread here). It's worth noting, though, that we're using the same set as the SHP Pirate Open (IS-119A).

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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by SHP Pirate » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:52 pm

SHP is planning to try to come to MIT to play this set before we host it the next weekend!
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Re: NY/NJ Date Claims 2012-2013

Post by ProfessorIanDuncan » Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:57 pm

SHP is planning to try to come to MIT to play this set before we host it the next weekend!
That's such a coincidence, my team was planning on doing that too. (just kidding)
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