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It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:01 am

This is an announcement for It's Lit, a literature side tournament to be played at CO 2017, to be written by myself and Jason Cheng from UCSD. It will be easier than RILKE (the average tossup will probably be at or a little easier than ACF Nationals in difficulty). It will be $10 per player and there will be nine packets.

Here is the distribution:

6 long fiction
5 poetry
3 drama
3 short fiction (short stories and works that are often labeled both short stories and novellas)
1 nonfiction (literary essays and literary criticism)
2 miscellaneous (any of the above, or something else entirely)

Because of my extensive past experience in writing literature for tournaments and struggling to get enough fresh and good questions for world literature, the main categories are genres of literature, not areas of the world. Since I am interested in good literature of all kinds, there certainly will be non-western representation, but it won't be apportioned out on a per-packet basis.

After some consideration, I have decided against using the advancing room system at RILKE and Gorilla Lit, in favor of the traditional doubles. However, I am introducing a novel policy: in the interest of keeping this tournament competitive, I reserve the right to disallow teams that I consider unfairly strong. You must email me (auronigupta@gmail.com) to sign up for this tournament, and I will let you know if your team is permissible.

Field:

Jordan Brownstein + Mike Etzkorn
Will Nediger + Chris Borglum
Ike Jose + Dylan Minarik
Rob Carson + Joey Goldman
Jacob Reed + Chris Ray
Tejas Raje + Andrew Wang
Will Alston + Jakob Myers
Matthew Lehmann + Ankush Bajaj
Aidan Mehigan + Marianna Zhang
Andrew Hart + Tamara Vardomskaya
Sam Bailey + Jerry Vinokurov
Kai Smith + Matt Bollinger
Jason Golfinos + Raynor Kuang
Clark Smith + Athena Kern
Derek So + Alan Lin
Charles Hang + Patrick Butenhoff
Jonathan Magin + Alston Boyd
Trevor Davis + Kurtis Droge
Jason Asher + Foster Hughes
Aayush Rajasekaran
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Re: CO 2017? Literature Side Tournament

Post by cornfused » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:34 am

Couldn't be more interested.
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Post by Auroni » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:48 pm

The initial post has been updated with a fuller announcement.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by ThisIsMyUsername » Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:59 pm

Auroni wrote:After some consideration, I have decided against using the advancing room system at RILKE and Guerrila Lit, in favor of the traditional doubles/triples/quads format. However, I am introducing a novel policy: in the interest of keeping this tournament competitive, I reserve the right to disallow teams that I consider unfairly strong. You must email me (auronigupta@gmail.com) to sign up for this tournament, and I will let you know if your team is permissible.
I sincerely hope that when you say doubles/triples/quads, you mean that you're going to choose one of doubles, triples, or quads as the format, and publicly declare this choice before people start forming teams and you start accepting registrations. This recent spate of people registering teams of varying sizes before a format is decided (which is then followed by a rash of rescrambling once the format is announced, and inevitably some teams being allowed in the field that are still the wrong size) is just awful.

Having a "[you] reserve the right to disallow teams that [you] consider unfairly strong" policy seems like a non-ideal way of achieving a potentially positive goal. It just means that the tournament will be won by whomever manages to correctly guess what your unstated upper limit is and create a team that is as close to that line as possible. If you want to restrict the strength of teams to avoid one team stomping all over everybody else (an idea that seems perfectly reasonable, although that hasn't been a problem at any lit tournament that I've seen), I would much rather that you state some hard-and-fast eligibility criterion that is known to everyone (e.g. players who placed in the top X places at Gorilla and/or RILKE cannot play with each other).
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:05 pm

ThisIsMyUsername wrote:
Auroni wrote:After some consideration, I have decided against using the advancing room system at RILKE and Guerrila Lit, in favor of the traditional doubles/triples/quads format. However, I am introducing a novel policy: in the interest of keeping this tournament competitive, I reserve the right to disallow teams that I consider unfairly strong. You must email me (auronigupta@gmail.com) to sign up for this tournament, and I will let you know if your team is permissible.
I sincerely hope that when you say doubles/triples/quads, you mean that you're going to choose one of doubles, triples, or quads as the format, and publicly declare this choice before people start forming teams and you start accepting registrations. This recent spate of people registering teams of varying sizes before a format is decided (which is then followed by a rash of rescrambling once the format is announced, and inevitably some teams being allowed in the field that are still the wrong size) is just awful.

Having a "[you] reserve the right to disallow teams that [you] consider unfairly strong" policy seems like a non-ideal way of achieving a potentially positive goal. It just means that the tournament will be won by whomever manages to correctly guess what your unstated upper limit is and create a team that is as close to that line as possible. If you want to restrict the strength of teams to avoid one team stomping all over everybody else (an idea that seems perfectly reasonable, although that hasn't been a problem at any lit tournament that I've seen), I would much rather that you state some hard-and-fast eligibility criterion that is known to everyone (e.g. players who placed in the top X places at Gorilla and/or RILKE cannot play with each other).
I will adopt one of your suggestions (the format will be doubles and the opening post edited accordingly) but not the other. I think everyone shares an implicit understanding of what a "broken" team is like, without necessarily being able to craft a set of criteria encompassing all such teams. I also don't want to publicly put the spotlight on specific people that I have in mind, either by naming them or by allowing people to easily look up who they are.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:38 pm

Since it's apparently too much to ask people to trust my deep understanding of and connection with the playing field, here is my heuristic for team permissibility:

I mentally sort good literature players into four tiers of increasing size. A handful of people make up Tier 1 and Tier 2. I won't allow any people in the second tier to team up with each other or with anyone in the first tier, and I won't allow people in the first tier to team up with anyone in the first three tiers.
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Post by women, fire and dangerous things » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:43 pm

I'm seeking a teammate for this. Message me if you'd like to team up, especially if you like poems.

UPDATE: I am playing with noted poem-liker Chris Borglum.
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Post by Ike » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:45 pm

Auroni wrote:Since it's apparently too much to ask people to trust my deep understanding of and connection with the playing field, here is my heuristic for team permissibility:

I mentally sort good literature players into four tiers of increasing size. A handful of people make up Tier 1 and Tier 2. I won't allow any people in the second tier to team up with each other or with anyone in the first tier, and I won't allow people in the first tier to team up with anyone in the first three tiers.
That makes a lot of sense, I was trying to figure out why I couldn't team up with John Lawrence since I clearly thought he was fourth-tier. Hate to say it but it makes a lot more sense to play poodle-dee poodle-doo here. That is, why not let everyone sign up, and then draft over the IRC?
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Post by grapesmoker » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:20 pm

I'll play. Contact me if you want to play with me.
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Post by Auks Ran Ova » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:26 pm

Wouldn't miss this. I've got spotty depth but solid breadth, so contact me especially if it sounds like that complements you.
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Post by Cheynem » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:33 pm

I have finished in the last room at both tournaments.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Nice hockey Cote d'Azur » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:56 pm

I'll play this. I'm even worse than Mike Cheyne at Lit.
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Post by Banned Tiny Toon Adventures Episode » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:00 pm

I have managed to play in some mix of the last place and 2nd to last place rooms at the last 2 CO lits. I have also only gotten worse at lit
hmu

EDIT: Tejas Raje and I intend on being the worst team at this event. Can anyone form a worse team than us?!
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Post by Guile Island » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:53 pm

I'm playing this with Ike, at least until I neg too much and he sends me to the gulag. Hooray!
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Re: It's Lit

Post by kdroge » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:03 pm

I'm interested in playing this and looking for a teammate.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Camille Palkia » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:39 am

My tier is pretty low but I can net you some clutch buzzes, consider me when your first choice partner gets rejected.
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Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:42 pm

I'll play this, too. I'm even worse than Tejas at lit!
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Fuddle Duddle » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:28 pm

I'll play this if it doesn't conflict with Naveed Bork. Seeking a teammate who's good with my limited lit-canon knowledge and occasional negging.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by heterodyne » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:43 pm

I'll play this. I really don't know anything about lit, but I probably won't neg so at worst you have an entertaining buzzer rock.
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Post by Periplus of the Erythraean Sea » Thu Mar 23, 2017 11:38 am

In an effort to form an even worse team than Tejas and Wang, Jakob Myers and I have teamed up.
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Post by vinteuil » Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:14 pm

Chris Ray and I are playing this.
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Post by UlyssesInvictus » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:40 pm

I'm looking for a teammate for this. I'll probably neg a lot the first two rounds and then stop negging after you yell at me.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by jasongg17 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:57 pm

If anybody's looking for a teammate that will nail one or two absurdly specific things and then get absolutely nothing else, shoot me a message! Otherwise I'd be happy to staff this.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by UlyssesInvictus » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:22 am

I haven't been to any CO side events before, so what's the field cap situation likely going to look like? (Asking so I can figure out how much I can procrastinate on finding a teammate.)
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:42 pm

UlyssesInvictus wrote:I haven't been to any CO side events before, so what's the field cap situation likely going to look like? (Asking so I can figure out how much I can procrastinate on finding a teammate.)
We have 9 teams registered now. I'll place a temporary cap of 16 and then see what I can do from there once the staff situation is clearer.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by 15.366 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:10 pm

I'm interested in playing. Nobody can predict what I may know, myself included, but I've read quite a wide variety of stuff and may not be half of the worst team at this tournament. I try not to neg and that's my problem. (Auroni does claim I delivered the sickest lit buzz he has ever seen, so there's that.)
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I'll staff this.
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Post by magin » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:08 pm

I'd like to play. If you know world literature and/or modernist poetry, I'm interested in teaming up with you.
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Post by halle » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:28 pm

if there's anyone looking for a partner and doesn't care about winning and/or is confident they can pretty much carry a team, hmu. i've read relatively widely but not particularly closely to the canon, so i'll probably take awhile to pick up on some easy stuff but might get some dank early buzzes when one of the obscure-ish things i've read comes up?
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Post by UlyssesInvictus » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:30 pm

Jason Golfinos and I are now teaming up for this.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:12 pm

As we near our field cap (14/16), I'd like to get a handle on staffers. Please contact me if you'd like to read at this tournament.
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Post by Charbroil » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:54 pm

Patrick Butenhoff and I are playing this.
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Post by Benin Rebirth Party » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:27 am

I can read for this and all other Sunday stuff too
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Post by Auroni » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:51 pm

The field is now full, but interested teams should continue to sign up to be added to the waiitlist, because I almost have enough staff to be able to expand.
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Post by west neg, new york » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:41 pm

I'll staff.
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EDIT: I have expanded the field and removed teams from the waitlist.
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Post by Cheynem » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:02 pm

I don't know if I'm on a FA list for this, but I've received various offers from potential teammates (all of which note they "don't mind finishing near last"--what does that mean???), so I should probably clarify that I can't make this tournament anymore.
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Post by The Bold Ideas of Bernie Sanders (I-VT) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:33 pm

15.366 wrote:(Auroni does claim I delivered the sickest lit buzz he has ever seen, so there's that.)
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Re: It's Lit

Post by Auroni » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:39 am

Please note the following changes to this tournament:

- The set will now consist of 9 packets instead of 10
- There will be 3 drama questions per packet instead of 4
- There will be 2 miscellaneous questions per packet instead of 1

I am also now instituting a hard cap of 20 teams for this tournament (we are at 19).
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Post by Auroni » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:05 am

I could very much use another team for this to generate an even field size.
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Post by Mike Bentley » Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:47 pm

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Post by kitakule » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:58 pm

As someone who won't be going to CO, I'd also love a Skype mirror
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Post by Auroni » Wed Jul 19, 2017 3:03 pm

Yes. I'll announce it soon after CO weekend.
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Post by Auroni » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:48 am

Due to drops I am short one staffer. Please email me if you're available; I will compensate you.

Edit: this is now taken care of
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Post by Auroni » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:32 pm

Congratulations to Jordan and Mike for clearing the field! The statistics will be up shortly. Since there was no need for a final, I will be reading the last packet at 8 PM PDT tonight in #quizbowl.

Thanks to Eliza Grames for reading/compiling records, Matt Weiner, Ryan Rosenberg, Ryan Humphreys, Joe Su, Ophir Lifshitz, Robert Chu, Saul Hankin, and Young Lee for moderating.
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Re: It's Lit

Post by heterodyne » Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:24 pm

Should note that according to my own records, I was given 7 too many tossups and 3 too many negs in the game against Matt+Kai, and Jonathan was similarly not given those buzzes.
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Post by Auroni » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:19 pm

There's now a private discussion forum for It's Lit that you can request to join via User Control Panel > Usergroups.
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Post by ValenciaQBowl » Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:56 pm

Auroni, would it be possible for us to mirror this after the Valencia NASAT mirror on August 19? (I e-mailed, too, but just in case you see this first...).
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