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ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:39 pm

The Mid-Atlantic site for ACF Winter 2009 will be held at J. Sargeant Reynolds Community College in Richmond, VA on Saturday, January 17. (Note: Due to an extremely unresponsive student life office, I do not have confirmed room reservations at this time.)

To register, e-mail me at jsrquizbowl@gmail.com with the number of teams, buzzers, and staffers you want to bring, and an email address where you can be contacted with details.

PACKETS/PRICES: The ACF guidelines on packet submission apply--teams with players in their third or greater year of mainstream quizbowl must write packets in order to participate. Submit all packets to Jerry Vinokurov, based on the main ACF Winter post located here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6634

Base fee: $120
Buzzers: -$5
Staffers: -$10
Laptop: -$5
Travel: -$10 for every 200 miles traveled (one-way)
New to ACF: -$25
New to quizbowl: -$75
High Schools: -$50
In addition to any packet discounts/penalties

LOCATION/DIRECTIONS: The tournament will take place on our Parham Road Campus. We will most likely be meeting in the Lippman Auditorium, in the Massey Technology Center. Directions and information about getting to campus can be found at http://www.reynolds.edu/_locations/parham.htm

TIMES: Registration will run from 8:15 to 8:45, with the goal of starting Round 1 as soon as possible after 9.

FORMAT: Each team will play at least 12 games, and the tournament will end with ACF-format finals. The specific format will be determined once the field size is known. Games will be played under the official ACF rules. The highest-finishing all-undergraduate and all-Division II teams will receive recognition according to the ACF policy on eligibility for Undergraduate and Division II status.

PAYMENT: Financial arrangements will be handled by me. All teams must pay on Saturday morning, in one of two forms: cash, or a personal or institutional check made out to JSRCC. Unless you have made a specific arrangement with me, you must pay your full registration fee at or before the tournament. If you need an invoice ahead of time so that your sponsor can cut a check, let me know. Otherwise, all teams will receive invoices at the tournament.

Post here or mail me if you have any further questions about the tournament itself.
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Teams so far (to be edited as registrations come in):
Butler / Razvi
Georgetown
Maggie Walker/Cameron Orth
Maryland (2)
Puma / Eppler
TJ
UNC
VCU
WJ
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by closesesame » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:54 pm

Please tell me this is still happening, because TJ wants to bring one team.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:07 am

As far as I know, it's happening. Would be nice if we had more than one team registered - I'll count you as number two. Not having ACF Winter in the Mid-Atlantic would be a travesty.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by wwellington » Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:14 am

We're most likely attending as well (working on the packet this week).
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Lapego1 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:58 am

There's a chance we'll be there. Still have to work out some logistics though.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by DumbJaques » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:49 am

Maryland will be bringing two teams.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:36 am

Also, we would greatly appreciate anyone that would be willing to come help staff as well.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:47 pm

Maggie Walker's bringing a team to this if we can get 4 other people together to go to Districts, which looks likely right now.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Tower Monarch » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:18 pm

So yeah, I will be playing solo (with 1-2 Cosby players if they are willing to play as "learning experience").
$70 is pushing it for me, but I think I can manage, so count me in.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Matt Weiner » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:19 pm

You should be eligible for the shorthanded team discount as well.
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Post by Tower Monarch » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:22 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:You should be eligible for the shorthanded team discount as well.
This would be cool...
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by at your pleasure » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:05 pm

If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:34 pm

Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Please let me know if this is happening.

Also, Maggie Walker and TJ folks, can you drop me an email as jsrquizbowl AT gmail so I have a contact address for both of you?
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by ieppler » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:30 pm

Are mixed high school teams allowed? If so (and if he'll have me,) I'll play on Daniel's team.
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Post by Gonzagapuma1 » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:36 pm

Hopper wrote:Are mixed high school teams allowed? If so (and if he'll have me,) I'll play on Daniel's team.
I would play too, if you guys would have me. But, if you aren't allowing it, can you sign up me(playing solo) as a team?
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by aestheteboy » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:16 pm

WJ will bring a team.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:18 pm

aestheteboy wrote:WJ will bring a team.
Great - I'll put you down. Please email jsrquizbowl AT gmail so I have a contact address for your team.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:43 pm

Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hopper wrote:Are mixed high school teams allowed? If so (and if he'll have me,) I'll play on Daniel's team.
Gonzagapuma1 wrote:I would play too, if you guys would have me. But, if you aren't allowing it, can you sign up me(playing solo) as a team?
I'm ok with mixed high school teams playing. However, under ACF rules, you will not be permitted to be eligible for the title. Please send me an email so I have contact information for someone.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Galstaff, Sorceror of Light » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:38 pm

Hey, Dan: would you have an objection to Cameron Orth playing with MLWGS? Our fourth player is unable to attend, and he's still seeking a team.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:03 pm

MLWGS-Gir wrote:Hey, Dan: would you have an objection to Cameron Orth playing with MLWGS? Our fourth player is unable to attend, and he's still seeking a team.
I don't object, but since Cameron isn't enrolled at MLW anymore, it would make your team ineligible for any titles.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:38 pm

He was at one point attending Maggie Walker this year, if I remember correctly.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Tower Monarch » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:12 pm

Jeremy Gibbs Free Energy wrote:He was at one point attending Maggie Walker this year, if I remember correctly.
Officially, I skipped the optional AP week at the end of August and dropped out the Thursday before mandatory schooling; I was not officially enrolled anywhere until the second week of school. (thanks to bureaucracy) So, yes, in a way, I was a Maggie Walker student enrolled for this school year...
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:26 pm

ACF Rule C.2 wrote:2. For high school tournaments, players must be enrolled at the school for which they are playing, or have graduated in the same academic year that the tournament is being held.
Tower Monarch wrote:Officially, I skipped the optional AP week at the end of August and dropped out the Thursday before mandatory schooling; I was not officially enrolled anywhere until the second week of school. (thanks to bureaucracy) So, yes, in a way, I was a Maggie Walker student enrolled for this school year...
I realize this is a little gray, but here's how I'm reading this. Since you were not officially enrolled anywhere until you were enrolled as homeschooled/Cosby, and did not attend any classes at Maggie Walker during the mandatory period, I don't think that makes you eligible to compete as a Maggie Walker student this year. I welcome input from Jerry or anyone else at ACF that may disagree or read this differently.
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Post by Tower Monarch » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:26 am

I'm totally fine with your decision, I just wanted to clarify.
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Post by Gonzagapuma1 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:41 am

Ian Eppler and I will be playing as a team.
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Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:16 pm

I've updated the first post with what I expect to be the final field. Can someone from TJ and Whitman please contact me?
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Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:33 am

Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hey Doug Graebner, is Whitman coming?
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Post by DumbJaques » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:13 am

Whitman or anyone else who can latch on to that team, please come as it makes the schedule plan vastly simpler and less sucktastic if you're able to join us.
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Post by grapesmoker » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:19 am

A.F. wrote:
Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hey Doug Graebner, is Whitman coming?
They wrote a packet, so I would be surprised if they didn't show, but of course someone from Whitman should post about this.
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Post by Lapego1 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:29 pm

The logistics don't work out well for Penn to bring a team, but I'll be at home for other reasons, so I'm available to either play solo or, since I risk going winless solo, offer myself up as a free agent. I'd rather not play solo, but I don't mind for the sake of the schedule.
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Post by Frater Taciturnus » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:07 pm

Lapego1 wrote:The logistics don't work out well for Penn to bring a team, but I'll be at home for other reasons, so I'm available to either play solo or, since I risk going winless solo, offer myself up as a free agent. I'd rather not play solo, but I don't mind for the sake of the schedule.
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Post by Lapego1 » Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:05 pm

Will Butler has responded to my plea, and we'll be teaming up for this.
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Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:34 am

grapesmoker wrote:They wrote a packet, so I would be surprised if they didn't show, but of course someone from Whitman should post about this.
I didn't see them in the list; I'm assuming you confused them with Walter Johnson HS, who is indeed attending.

I've heard through the grapevine that they are not coming, so I'm counting them as dropped unless they specifically email me and tell me otherwise, as I have a document that they need to bring with them in order to be able to make my school's lawyers happy and be able to play.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

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grapesmoker wrote:
A.F. wrote:
Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hey Doug Graebner, is Whitman coming?
They wrote a packet, so I would be surprised if they didn't show, but of course someone from Whitman should post about this.
What packet? I certainly didn't write anything, and Doug hasn't said anything about this. We aren't currently planning to go, although if you really need us to we probably can.
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Post by aestheteboy » Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:09 am

brezhnev wrote:
grapesmoker wrote:
A.F. wrote:
Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hey Doug Graebner, is Whitman coming?
They wrote a packet, so I would be surprised if they didn't show, but of course someone from Whitman should post about this.
What packet? I certainly didn't write anything, and Doug hasn't said anything about this. We aren't currently planning to go, although if you really need us to we probably can.
Of course we need you. Where would a tournament be without a Whitman team?
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:42 am

aestheteboy wrote:
brezhnev wrote:
grapesmoker wrote:
A.F. wrote:
Anti-Climacus wrote:If Daniel can get anyone else, there may be a Whitman/mixed team.
Hey Doug Graebner, is Whitman coming?
They wrote a packet, so I would be surprised if they didn't show, but of course someone from Whitman should post about this.
What packet? I certainly didn't write anything, and Doug hasn't said anything about this. We aren't currently planning to go, although if you really need us to we probably can.
Of course we need you. Where would a tournament be without a Whitman team?
Richmond, apparently.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by grapesmoker » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:51 am

brezhnev wrote:What packet? I certainly didn't write anything, and Doug hasn't said anything about this. We aren't currently planning to go, although if you really need us to we probably can.
Oops, instead of "Whitman" I read "Walter Johnson," because I'm apparently illiterate or something. WJHS did write a packet but Whitman didn't.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:17 pm

I've been told that Georgetown is now attending as well, bringing the total number of teams back to 10.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by closesesame » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:52 pm

Minor problem - TJ may end up not going if I can't find a 3rd person to come along.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by DumbJaques » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:16 am

Minor problem - TJ may end up not going if I can't find a 3rd person to come along.
That wouldn't be too cool considering that the tournament is in two days, and the schedule would be made less than pleasant (particularly if the reason is just that you want to have a bigger team).
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by closesesame » Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:16 am

The problem for us with the team being too small is that the finance office people won't cut the check. So we've basically got our hands tied. In addition to that, I'm pretty sure the parent who is supposed to be our sponsor (because our sponsor doesn't come to these tournaments) can't make it. Ah, the joys of high school bureaucracy.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by grapesmoker » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:58 am

closesesame wrote:The problem for us with the team being too small is that the finance office people won't cut the check. So we've basically got our hands tied. In addition to that, I'm pretty sure the parent who is supposed to be our sponsor (because our sponsor doesn't come to these tournaments) can't make it. Ah, the joys of high school bureaucracy.
Naren, is there a possibility of you guys coming and working out the fees at some later date somehow? Obviously I can't and wouldn't tell Dan and George to let you play for free, but if your absence is going to throw the tournament into chaos, perhaps something can be arranged that will allow you to play? It's a weekend and not on school time, so if you showed up as Naren + pal, who would care?
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by Frater Taciturnus » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:26 am

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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:37 am

grapesmoker wrote:
closesesame wrote:The problem for us with the team being too small is that the finance office people won't cut the check. So we've basically got our hands tied. In addition to that, I'm pretty sure the parent who is supposed to be our sponsor (because our sponsor doesn't come to these tournaments) can't make it. Ah, the joys of high school bureaucracy.
Naren, is there a possibility of you guys coming and working out the fees at some later date somehow? Obviously I can't and wouldn't tell Chris to let you play for free, but if your absence is going to throw the tournament into chaos, perhaps something can be arranged that will allow you to play? It's a weekend and not on school time, so if you showed up as Naren + pal, who would care?
Additionally, if you were playing as "Naren + pal", I think you'd qualify for both the high school and shorthanded discounts, which means you'd be paying ~$10 to play, so long as you can get down here.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by closesesame » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:49 pm

I REALLY don't mean to throw the tournament into chaos, but there is absolutely no way we can come tomorrow. Without the adult, if we go, we essentially get royally screwed over by the school (even as "notteejay"). We played at VCU Novice over the summer, but that was with an FCPS-badged adult, and we still got some flak for it...
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by at your pleasure » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:54 pm

I have not been in the college section in a while, so I just want to apologize about not being able to come. I had no idea that A) we would not be able to get transportation and B) that I would need to spend the amount of time studying for my math final that I evidently need to study.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by closesesame » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:02 pm

Basically I feel absolutely terrible about doing this to you guys - it is NOT my intent at all. If you want to know how ridiculous the situation is, we got yelled at for not having sent a list of names to the Activities Office for VHSL yesterday when we were notified today. Apparently TJ wants us to be psychics...
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by aestheteboy » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:10 pm

I've already expressed similar sentiments in the Missouri thread few months ago, but seriously, what right does the school system have to tell anyone what he or she can and cannot do in their free time? What can they do to you for going to Richmond and spending time with your friends? I understand that if the team fund is involved, then the school has some say in how you use it, but I assume that $10 is not an issue here. I'm not trying to criticize Naren, but I really can't understand what's going on here.
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:18 pm

Georgetown overslept and was replaced by a hastily-acquired scab team.

Hey look: stats!

http://hsquizbowl.org/acf_winter_midatl ... dings.html
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Re: ACF Winter Mid-Atlantic @ JS Reynolds CC (Richmond) 1/17/09

Post by I'm a goff (in case you couldn't tell) » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:42 pm

Maryland was first after the prelims, going 9-0. VCU followed at 7-2. We're into the playoffs now.
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