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And this is, once and for all, why most Illinois-style tournaments are bad. Teams SHOULD be playing competitive matches with other teams at their level. It was a waste when I was at Wheaton North to essentially have five matches that were blowouts in the morning. It was a waste for our team and probably for the teams we beat. This is why the system has to change. I comment New Trier for designing a format to have better-matched teams since 2005.BGSO wrote:If we have to play Fremd not in the finals I will not be a happy person.
This is not unique to Illinois. At a lot of tournaments, we have at most one competitive match in the morning and 4-6 teams that present no real threat unless we are playing badly. I prefer card systems for this reason, but they require a certain number of teams to work wellAnd this is, once and for all, why most Illinois-style tournaments are bad. Teams SHOULD be playing competitive matches with other teams at their level. It was a waste when I was at Wheaton North to essentially have five matches that were blowouts in the morning.
I would give people an actual match instead of a bye.I imagine if another team dumps, then you're looking at a cross-over matches. Mind you, I don't know if Prospect's frosh/soph withdrawal extends to the varsity, too. In the meantime, the frosh/soph tourney is looking at a chimera team or a bye for each round in pool II.
This is unfortunate. Last year Prospect had 6 kids get perfect scores on the ACT, but they cannot seem to be able to field a team for a single Scholastic Bowl tournament.Woody Paige wrote:Oh noes! Prospect is canceling their participation in tomorrow's MSL frosh/soph tournament due to a transportation 'scheduling error'! Dave Garb, your school is in their district, are you having the same issues??? This could really mess things up if half the conference is a no-show tomorrow!
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We want to play Fremd, but not in the morning. Since the tournament is pool play with one team advancing on, a morning game against Fremd means our day would end early with a loss. The question provider is Bryce Avery, and his questions get better as the day goes along. Therefore, we would like to play our important game against Fremd in the championship, rather than on the horrible morning questions.rjaguar3 wrote:And this is, once and for all, why most Illinois-style tournaments are bad. Teams SHOULD be playing competitive matches with other teams at their level. It was a waste when I was at Wheaton North to essentially have five matches that were blowouts in the morning. It was a waste for our team and probably for the teams we beat. This is why the system has to change. I comment New Trier for designing a format to have better-matched teams since 2005.BGSO wrote:If we have to play Fremd not in the finals I will not be a happy person.
It could, but it won't happen this scholastic year.TheKingInYelliow wrote:Kind of a random question, but is Illinois big enough to get its own forum? Could that happen?
There's been some preliminary talk about an Illinois-centric forum outside of HSQB, possibly on the Coaches' Association website, but the talk is still just preliminary. I'm willing to bet that if that forum gets going, it would wait until next scholastic year as well.FredMorlan wrote:It could, but it won't happen this scholastic year.TheKingInYelliow wrote:Kind of a random question, but is Illinois big enough to get its own forum? Could that happen?
I agree. If Illinois needs more room, we should get more threads here, not a new place to discuss things.Captain Scipio wrote:I don't actually think that would be a good thing, either. I don't see what the purpose of such an outside board would be, other than to ghettoize Illinois players and coaches.
Yeah, like, I, personally, am not oppressed by the length of the Illinois thread. Impressed, perhaps.Captain Scipio wrote:I don't actually think that would be a good thing, either. I don't see what the purpose of such an outside board would be, other than to ghettoize Illinois players and coaches.
Mr. Riley is correct. However, one reason that this has been a very good year for Illinois Scholastic Bowl is that a number of tournaments are breaking away from the old way of doing things. Thanks to Earlybird, Northwestern, Auburn's Harvard Mirror, Decemberist, and New Trier, the top four teams have played a lot of matches against each other, which is a very good thing, in addition to playing several other teams such as WWS, BG, AES, MS, and Springfield that are very worthy competitors.David Riley wrote:I'm with Greg, and this is why (along with quality of questions) we no longer play certain tournaments....however, in all fairness, from what I've seen so far this year, there are maybe 4-6 teams at or near the top, then maybe another 10-15 teams below that, then a big drop, so unless you do divisions or power matching you're always going to end up playing a team that doesn't match your team's preparation. I agree it needs to change, and power matching is a good way to go, but you need certain numbers iof teamns for it to work. And coaches have to buy into it, and most of them don't.![]()
AND it's very hard to get things changed in leagues where hidebound tradition is likely.
If they're going to be used again this year, you cannot post them.BGSO wrote:So, MSL quad is done, we beat Fremd on the best round of the day but it wasn't without problems, will I get tempbanned for the "best questions" of the set? I'd love everybody to know some of the better ones, but I'm not sure what the board policy is regarding Mr. Avery's lovely questions.
It was the MSL Preseason tournament, not the MSL quad.BGSO wrote:So, MSL quad is done, we beat Fremd on the best round of the day but it wasn't without problems, will I get tempbanned for the "best questions" of the set? I'd love everybody to know some of the better ones, but I'm not sure what the board policy is regarding Mr. Avery's lovely questions.
Ahh... but the JV questions were a different provider and written over a year ago. I expect no flack, particularly as I didn't post the q's verbatim.BGSO wrote:Alright Mr. Price posted JV questions, so I assume the varsity is ok to post here we go:
Edited the references to the maybe not cleared stuff. Left comedy old Avery Question. - The Mgmt.AVERY wrote:What part of a cow do you squeeze to get milk out?
Uh yeahBGSO wrote:Any news from the turnabouts and Naperville Central?
ok my bad.. but u get the jist of it. pretty easy math for a varsity level.rjaguar3 wrote:Um, Mike, I think you probably want to edit that NAQT snippet out...
See page 18.mark vigil wrote:What teams are going to be at Fremd
Was this house-written and, if so, will the set be posted?Siverus Snape wrote:Auburn F/S tournament