CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
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CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
This is the announcement for Cameron and Tommy Open (aka Tommy and Cameron Open), or CaTO/TaCO to be held on Sunday, August 9, 2009, the day after VCU Open on the Virginia Commonwealth University campus in Richmond, VA. As the name indicates, this is an open event entirely written by Maggie Walker student Tommy Casalaspi and myself. The current plan for difficulty is Regionals with the expansion common among summer open events.
EDIT: After hearing this year's ACF Regionals and Nationals, I will say that our projected difficulty is closer to the latter, but will aim for accessibility in bonuses (especially the middle parts, which we will actively attempt to make consistent) and in at least 3/4 of tossups (the idea here is not to overwhelm with canon expansion while not limiting the writers to stock answers).
In terms of eligibility, this is of course Open, but depending on numbers (say, at least 3 contenders), we are prepared to recognize the top team consisting only of high schoolers (defined as having been enrolled within the last year), as the original concept for this tournament was the completion of the analogy ICT/ACF Nationals: Chicago Open :: NSC/HSNCT: ______. Therefore, this will obviously be below the difficulty of CO (and VCU Open), but "superteams" are more than welcome.
We will tentatively (and likely) use the same fee structure as VCU Open, copied here for reference:
Base fee $100 per team
Buzzers: -$10 each (no limit)
Staffers: -$20 each (no limit)
Minimum fee: $0
To get a discount, buzzers must actually work for the purpose of a normal quizbowl game; that is, they must have eight working activators, a working control box, and either a working power cord or a fresh battery, as applicable. Don't waste everyone's time bringing broken buzzers to the tournament. That's actually worse than bringing no buzzers at all! Don't bring broken staffers either.
To register, post here or email me at the address below.
As the location and timing will be based on VCU's reservations, I have for now copied the information for VCU Open here:
LOCATION/DIRECTIONS/PARKING: The tournament will take place somewhere on our Monroe Park campus (aka "Academic Campus"). We will have more details once the room reservations come back.
TIMES: Registration will run from 8:45 to 9:00 AM, with the goal of starting Round 1 as soon as possible after 9:00.
The packets will be ACF format with a similar distribution (some notable differences include a near absence of Geography). Since we should have 15 packets ready for the tournament, format will be entirely dependent on number of teams.
Until we straighten out payment information, cash is our preference. If you need to make out a check now or soon, make it out to Cameron Orth and I will make sure it gets to the right people.
If you have any questions, comments or mirroring requests, post here or let me know at outhwest AT gmail DOT com
EDIT: After hearing this year's ACF Regionals and Nationals, I will say that our projected difficulty is closer to the latter, but will aim for accessibility in bonuses (especially the middle parts, which we will actively attempt to make consistent) and in at least 3/4 of tossups (the idea here is not to overwhelm with canon expansion while not limiting the writers to stock answers).
In terms of eligibility, this is of course Open, but depending on numbers (say, at least 3 contenders), we are prepared to recognize the top team consisting only of high schoolers (defined as having been enrolled within the last year), as the original concept for this tournament was the completion of the analogy ICT/ACF Nationals: Chicago Open :: NSC/HSNCT: ______. Therefore, this will obviously be below the difficulty of CO (and VCU Open), but "superteams" are more than welcome.
We will tentatively (and likely) use the same fee structure as VCU Open, copied here for reference:
Base fee $100 per team
Buzzers: -$10 each (no limit)
Staffers: -$20 each (no limit)
Minimum fee: $0
To get a discount, buzzers must actually work for the purpose of a normal quizbowl game; that is, they must have eight working activators, a working control box, and either a working power cord or a fresh battery, as applicable. Don't waste everyone's time bringing broken buzzers to the tournament. That's actually worse than bringing no buzzers at all! Don't bring broken staffers either.
To register, post here or email me at the address below.
As the location and timing will be based on VCU's reservations, I have for now copied the information for VCU Open here:
LOCATION/DIRECTIONS/PARKING: The tournament will take place somewhere on our Monroe Park campus (aka "Academic Campus"). We will have more details once the room reservations come back.
TIMES: Registration will run from 8:45 to 9:00 AM, with the goal of starting Round 1 as soon as possible after 9:00.
The packets will be ACF format with a similar distribution (some notable differences include a near absence of Geography). Since we should have 15 packets ready for the tournament, format will be entirely dependent on number of teams.
Until we straighten out payment information, cash is our preference. If you need to make out a check now or soon, make it out to Cameron Orth and I will make sure it gets to the right people.
If you have any questions, comments or mirroring requests, post here or let me know at outhwest AT gmail DOT com
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I'm going to play this, but I'm looking for teammates.
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I will assume I am playing this, perhaps with the team I play with on Saturday (?).
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I'm very interested in playing this, and almost certainly not with CR (meaning I'm on the hunt for a team, if anyone will have me).
edit: clarification
edit: clarification
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
GlitchYC wrote:I'm going to play this, but I'm looking for teammates.
Hey, who's interested in a probably very pathetic high school team? I'm not sure, but I'd kinda like to play this too.ImaPC wrote:I'm very interested in playing this, and likely not with my team.
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Actually Aidan, Trey and i (tentatively) are thinking of playing together for this. You may join our sucky tandem...Prof.Whoopie wrote:GlitchYC wrote:I'm going to play this, but I'm looking for teammates.Hey, who's interested in a probably very pathetic high school team? I'm not sure, but I'd kinda like to play this too.ImaPC wrote:I'm very interested in playing this, and likely not with my team.
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I need a ride... but yes! [email protected], if you want to get a hold of me.Actually Aidan, Trey and i (tentatively) are thinking of playing together for this. You may join our sucky tandem...
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Am looking for team, yes sir.
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Oh look at that, a quizbowl tournament. I'll play this with some assemblage of teammates.
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Caesar Rodney HS wrote:Actually Aidan, Trey and i (tentatively) are thinking of playing together for this. You may join our sucky tandem...Prof.Whoopie wrote:GlitchYC wrote:I'm going to play this, but I'm looking for teammates.Hey, who's interested in a probably very pathetic high school team? I'm not sure, but I'd kinda like to play this too.ImaPC wrote:I'm very interested in playing this, and likely not with my team.
May I join this suckfest? I tentatively have gluten-free cookies.
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Tentatively, yes! The prospect of a CR Anselm hybrid team is pretty intriguing, not to mention fairly convenient. This is working out quite well, assuming things don't utterly fall apart...May I join this suckfest? I tentatively have gluten-free cookies.
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Remember, you, me, Hannah, and Rob are playing this.everyday847 wrote:I will play this tournament not alone.
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I wasn't lying!tetragrammatology wrote:Remember, you, me, Hannah, and Rob are playing this.everyday847 wrote:I will play this tournament not alone.
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I'm playing this with Charlie R, Sarah, and probably Lily, and it will be exciting.
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Oh good, wasn't sure if this was still happening so I was hesitant to post it.tetragrammatology wrote:Remember, you, me, Hannah, and Rob are playing this.everyday847 wrote:I will play this tournament not alone.
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I will play this if any team will have me, or staff it as needed.
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Okay, so I definitely will need at least two other teammates, maybe three depending on what Silberman is doing. Hook me up either here or at cheyne AT wmis DOT net.
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Yeah, I'm so down for this.ImaPC wrote:Tentatively, yes! The prospect of a CR Anselm hybrid team is pretty intriguing, not to mention fairly convenient. This is working out quite well, assuming things don't utterly fall apart...May I join this suckfest? I tentatively have gluten-free cookies.
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Since the field magically appeared over the last couple days, here is a tentative field that will (maybe) be updated:
Teams (buzzers):
Andy/Hannah/Rob/Bernadette
Carter/Rosenthal/Angelo/Chen
Taraila/Chrzanowski/Mehigan/Bollinger (1)
TJ "B"
Nathan/York +2
Cheyne/Guy/White (Evan?) +2
(Free) Agents:
Jerry
Carsten
George
Dan
People who will likely show up but haven't said anything:
Evan Adams
Will Butler
Matt Weiner
Staff that definitely won't play:
Cameron
Tommy
I'll try to update this regularly.
EDIT: Difficulty section of the original announcement has been updated. Also, I will announce that virtually all science clues will be coming from textbook knowledge of which advanced students are likely to have heard.
Teams (buzzers):
Andy/Hannah/Rob/Bernadette
Carter/Rosenthal/Angelo/Chen
Taraila/Chrzanowski/Mehigan/Bollinger (1)
TJ "B"
Nathan/York +2
Cheyne/Guy/White (Evan?) +2
(Free) Agents:
Jerry
Carsten
George
Dan
People who will likely show up but haven't said anything:
Evan Adams
Will Butler
Matt Weiner
Staff that definitely won't play:
Cameron
Tommy
I'll try to update this regularly.
EDIT: Difficulty section of the original announcement has been updated. Also, I will announce that virtually all science clues will be coming from textbook knowledge of which advanced students are likely to have heard.
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Whatever you might say, I am going to assume that this tournament will in fact be harder than VCU Open itself.Tower Monarch wrote:(the difficulty section, specifically)
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Hey, I'm writing half of this tournament and editing the other half. If Tommy did the whole thing, then you would probably be correct.BuzzerZen wrote:Whatever you might say, I am going to assume that this tournament will in fact be harder than VCU Open itself.Tower Monarch wrote:(the difficulty section, specifically)
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I will happily play with any of the people in the current free agency pool. Evan, are you playing this?
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Put me down as a free agent. (Note: If I end up driving to Richmond that weekend instead of getting a ride, I will have to leave relatively early, no later than 5 or 6. If I do Amtrak, then I'm probably only in for the morning rounds, if I remember their schedule.)
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TJ B would possibly be interested in coming to this.
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I will either play or staff this.
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Frater Taciturnus wrote:I will either play or staff this.
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I'm planning to play this, and have currently formed a team with York Chen. We're eagerly looking for other team members; feel free to contact either one of us.
(Edit: also, I should be bringing a buzzer.)
(Edit #2: Carsten Gehring and Zihan Zheng have now completed the team.)
(Edit #3: I'm not bringing a buzzer anymore, because I'm flying, it's a Judge, and I'm worried about airport security.)
(Edit: also, I should be bringing a buzzer.)
(Edit #2: Carsten Gehring and Zihan Zheng have now completed the team.)
(Edit #3: I'm not bringing a buzzer anymore, because I'm flying, it's a Judge, and I'm worried about airport security.)
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I'm planning on playing this with at least Guy and perhaps Evan--anyone interested in joining this configuration is welcome to get in touch.
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Looks like I'll be the fourth (third?) on this team.Cheynem wrote:I'm planning on playing this with at least Guy and perhaps Evan--anyone interested in joining this configuration is welcome to get in touch.
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Oh, we will be bringing a buzzer set, by the way.Tower Monarch wrote:Taraila/Chrzanowski/Mehigan/Bollinger
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.
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Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.
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This is true for me as well.Ukonvasara wrote:Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.
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DoubleHKirsch wrote:This is true for me as well.Ukonvasara wrote:Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
So I guess B and I are looking for some teammates now! (assuming, of course, that Andy and Hannah will be sadly unable to come.)tetragrammatology wrote:DoubleHKirsch wrote:This is true for me as well.Ukonvasara wrote:Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:Since it looks decreasingly likely that I will be able to attend VCU Open, I do not believe I will be able to play this tournament.
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Happily, things worked out, and the two of us will be coming! False alarm...
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Forgive me, Rob and Bernadette; Colorado Springs knew not what it did. I'm coming!
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I'm officially declaring free agency.
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Two weeks to go. Is there a field update to this, and maybe specifics on locations and stuff?
Also what time can we expect to be finished? We've got a long drive back to Dover and a couple guys i gotta drop off on the way.
Really looking forward to going, and i know i can speak for Trey (actually and Matt and Aidan) on that one as well.
Also what time can we expect to be finished? We've got a long drive back to Dover and a couple guys i gotta drop off on the way.
Really looking forward to going, and i know i can speak for Trey (actually and Matt and Aidan) on that one as well.
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University of Delaware '01-'05
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Caesar Rodney High School
Camden, Delaware
CRHS '97-'01
University of Delaware '01-'05
CRHS quizbowl coach '06-'12
http://crquizbowl.edublogs.org
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
BuzzerZen wrote:Whatever you might say, I am going to assume that this tournament will in fact be harder than VCU Open itself.Tower Monarch wrote:(the difficulty section, specifically)
Considering this tournament is supposed to be pretty close to Nationals in difficulty, Evan may end up being right. Wow.Matt Weiner wrote:For various reasons, the difficulty for this tournament is now "between normal/Regionals and Nationals" rather than "CO level." Take that into account if you are writing a packet. The harder end of Cardinal Classic, Terrapin, etc is what I have in mind here.
Aidan Mehigan
St. Anselm's Abbey School '12
Columbia University '16 | University of Oxford '17 | UPenn GSE '19
St. Anselm's Abbey School '12
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
I'm looking for a team for this tournament. Email me if you are interested in playing with me.
Ted Gioia - Harvard '12
Editor ACF, PACE
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Oy. Let's just do our best, Aidan. If it helps, Trey really has gotten good over the last couple months... he's our best hope on a lot of the impossible history questions here (yeah, he's better than me, probably, at least in terms of depth of knowledge, but as a history teacher i guess i have more breadth). We'll see what happens.Prof.Whoopie wrote:BuzzerZen wrote:Whatever you might say, I am going to assume that this tournament will in fact be harder than VCU Open itself.Tower Monarch wrote:(the difficulty section, specifically)Considering this tournament is supposed to be pretty close to Nationals in difficulty, Evan may end up being right. Wow.Matt Weiner wrote:For various reasons, the difficulty for this tournament is now "between normal/Regionals and Nationals" rather than "CO level." Take that into account if you are writing a packet. The harder end of Cardinal Classic, Terrapin, etc is what I have in mind here.
Mr. Andrew Chrzanowski
Caesar Rodney High School
Camden, Delaware
CRHS '97-'01
University of Delaware '01-'05
CRHS quizbowl coach '06-'12
http://crquizbowl.edublogs.org
Caesar Rodney High School
Camden, Delaware
CRHS '97-'01
University of Delaware '01-'05
CRHS quizbowl coach '06-'12
http://crquizbowl.edublogs.org
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Uhhh... probably not... I'm just hoping to have a stats in the black.Oy. Let's just do our best, Aidan. If it helps, Trey really has gotten good over the last couple months... he's our best hope on a lot of the impossible history questions here (yeah, he's better than me, probably, at least in terms of depth of knowledge, but as a history teacher i guess i have more breadth). We'll see what happens.
Trey Taraila
Caesar Rodney 2010
University of Delaware 2014
Caesar Rodney 2010
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Magister Ludi wrote:I'm looking for a team for this tournament. Email me if you are interested in playing with me.
Wow, this just gets worse and worse. My goal: get 2-3 myth questions over the course of the entire tournament.
Matt Bollinger
UVA '14, UVA '15
UVA '14, UVA '15
Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Hey, I guess I need a team for this. Email me if you're interested.
Trevor Davis
University of Alberta
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Alright, no update then? Cool. Hopefully things are all coming together.Dr. Bunsen Honeydew wrote:Two weeks to go. Is there a field update to this, and maybe specifics on locations and stuff?
Also what time can we expect to be finished? We've got a long drive back to Dover and a couple guys i gotta drop off on the way.
Really looking forward to going, and i know i can speak for Trey (actually and Matt and Aidan) on that one as well.
Mr. Andrew Chrzanowski
Caesar Rodney High School
Camden, Delaware
CRHS '97-'01
University of Delaware '01-'05
CRHS quizbowl coach '06-'12
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Caesar Rodney High School
Camden, Delaware
CRHS '97-'01
University of Delaware '01-'05
CRHS quizbowl coach '06-'12
http://crquizbowl.edublogs.org
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
If this tournament is fully staffed I will play, likely solo. Otherwise I will read.
Matt Weiner
Advisor to Quizbowl at Virginia Commonwealth University / Founder of hsquizbowl.org
Advisor to Quizbowl at Virginia Commonwealth University / Founder of hsquizbowl.org
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Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Charlie Dees, Phil George, and I are tentatively playing this and looking for a fourth.
Jason Loy
Missouri State '10
Harding '04-'08
Missouri State '10
Harding '04-'08
Re: CaTO/TaCO at VCU August 9
Current Field:
York / Carsten / Nathan / Zheng
Caesar Rodney / St. Anselm
Guy / White / Silberman / Cheyne
Andy / Hannah / Rob / Bernadette
Chris Carter / Charlie Rosenthal / Sarah Angelo / Lily Chen
Charlie Dees / Phil George / Jason Loy / Trevor Davis
Jonathan / Richard Mason
Byrne / Graebner / Evan Adams
Matt Weiner / Will Butler
Dan Goff / Morlan / Ike
York / Carsten / Nathan / Zheng
Caesar Rodney / St. Anselm
Guy / White / Silberman / Cheyne
Andy / Hannah / Rob / Bernadette
Chris Carter / Charlie Rosenthal / Sarah Angelo / Lily Chen
Charlie Dees / Phil George / Jason Loy / Trevor Davis
Jonathan / Richard Mason
Byrne / Graebner / Evan Adams
Matt Weiner / Will Butler
Dan Goff / Morlan / Ike
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Tommy
UVA '15
Harvard...let's say '23
UVA '15
Harvard...let's say '23