Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
As you might know, there was some unpleasantness recently in the Illinois '09-'10 thread after some people posted controversial and inflammatory opinions regarding a member of the IHSSBCA's pre-season Class AA poll ballot. As a fun and inoffensive way to get our opinions out, I propose that all people on this forum fill out their own ballot in this thread. You don't need to explain your rankings (ESPN.com-stlye) like we did earlier in the summer, just rank your top 10 teams (from either class) according to the standards of good quizbowl. I'll tabulate the votes next Wednesday at 12:01 AM. Sound good? Mmkay. I'll start.
1. Auburn
2. Stevenson
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. Fremd
6. Lisle
7. Viator
8. C-Dale
9. BG
10. WWS
I'll just do this the way I think the IHSSBCA poll works: when a team gets ranked #1, they earn 10 points; #2, 9 points, etc. Then I'll reveal the top 10 points-earners in order of how many points they earned, and then I'll alphabetically list some honorable mentions that were #11-15 in points.
1. Auburn
2. Stevenson
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. Fremd
6. Lisle
7. Viator
8. C-Dale
9. BG
10. WWS
I'll just do this the way I think the IHSSBCA poll works: when a team gets ranked #1, they earn 10 points; #2, 9 points, etc. Then I'll reveal the top 10 points-earners in order of how many points they earned, and then I'll alphabetically list some honorable mentions that were #11-15 in points.
Last edited by Dan-Don on Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Okay, here's mine revised given the discussion in the other thread, further thought on my part, and also with Class A teams included if appropriate.
- Auburn
- Stevenson
- St. Ignatius
- Loyola
- St. Viator
- Carbondale
- Lisle
- Naperville Central
- Wheaton Warrenville South
- Fremd
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Stevenson
2. St. Ignatius
3. Auburn
4. Loyola
5. Fremd
6. Viator
7. Naperville Central
8. BG
9. IMSA
10. Carbondale
Just Missed: Litchfield, Lisle, Latin
2. St. Ignatius
3. Auburn
4. Loyola
5. Fremd
6. Viator
7. Naperville Central
8. BG
9. IMSA
10. Carbondale
Just Missed: Litchfield, Lisle, Latin
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Stevenson
2. St Ignatius
3. Auburn
4. Loyola
5. Lisle
6. St. Viator
7. Buffalo Grove
8. Fremd
9. WWS
10. Naperville Central
Just missed: Litchfield, Carbondale, IMSA
2. St Ignatius
3. Auburn
4. Loyola
5. Lisle
6. St. Viator
7. Buffalo Grove
8. Fremd
9. WWS
10. Naperville Central
Just missed: Litchfield, Carbondale, IMSA
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Stevenson
2. Auburn
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. St. Viator
6. Fremd
7. Buffalo Grove
8. IMSA
9. Carbondale
10. Lisle
2. Auburn
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. St. Viator
6. Fremd
7. Buffalo Grove
8. IMSA
9. Carbondale
10. Lisle
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Auburn
2. Stevenson
3. IG
4. Loyola
5. Viator
6. Carbondale
7. Fremd
8. BG
9. IMSA
10. Naperville
Misses (mostly because I really don't know them, but are apparently good): Lisle, WWS, NT, Latin
2. Stevenson
3. IG
4. Loyola
5. Viator
6. Carbondale
7. Fremd
8. BG
9. IMSA
10. Naperville
Misses (mostly because I really don't know them, but are apparently good): Lisle, WWS, NT, Latin
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Given who's posting these polls, I'd just like to clarify....we're talking overall, not just IHSA. Right?.....Right?.....
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
I filled out my poll with the intent of guessing how teams would do playing good quizbowl (which excludes IHSA) assuming they played it. In fact, I did the same for my IHSSBCA poll, except I limited myself to Class AA teams.
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If we were talking IHSA I'm pretty sure that IG would be ranked better than #3 given Deveau's math skills.David Riley wrote:Given who's posting these polls, I'd just like to clarify....we're talking overall, not just IHSA. Right?.....Right?.....
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
So..not IHSA.Dan-Don wrote:just rank your top 10 teams (from either class) according to the standards of good quizbowl.
Dan Donohue, Saint Viator ('10), Northwestern ('14), NAQT
Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Only Class AA:
1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
2. Stevenson
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. St. Viator
6. Lisle
7. Fremd (apparently?)
8. Carbondale
9. WWS
10. IMSA
1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
2. Stevenson
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. St. Viator
6. Lisle
7. Fremd (apparently?)
8. Carbondale
9. WWS
10. IMSA
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Lisle's Class A, but whatever.adeveau wrote:Only Class AA:
1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
2. Stevenson
3. St. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. St. Viator
6. Lisle
7. Fremd (apparently?)
8. Carbondale
9. WWS
10. IMSA
Dan Donohue, Saint Viator ('10), Northwestern ('14), NAQT
Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Yeah my bad. I changed my mind half way through because, well, Lisle deserves the props.Dan-Don wrote: Lisle's Class A, but whatever.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Stevenson
2. Auburn
3. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. Viator
6. Carbondale
7. Lisle
8. Fremd
9. WWS
10. BG
Just Missed: New Trier, Latin, Litchfield...Auburn B
2. Auburn
3. Ignatius
4. Loyola
5. Viator
6. Carbondale
7. Lisle
8. Fremd
9. WWS
10. BG
Just Missed: New Trier, Latin, Litchfield...Auburn B
Last edited by Jane Fairfax on Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Indeed they do. Good call.adeveau wrote:Yeah my bad. I changed my mind half way through because, well, Lisle deserves the props.Dan-Don wrote: Lisle's Class A, but whatever.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Why wouldn't we have Lloyd?adeveau wrote:1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
1. Auburn
2. St. Ig
3. Stevenson
4. Loyola
5. Viator
6. Carbondale
7. Lisle
8. WWS
9. IMSA (assuming...)
10. Fremd
Edit: Over-quotage.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Maybe I joined the Andrew Deveau fan club and followed him around for a while.Oliver Ellsworth wrote:Why wouldn't we have Lloyd?adeveau wrote:1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
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I thought there were some mumblings about F/S. My bad.
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Oh, I'm playing F/S, but I'm also playing varsity. If they ever occur on the same day...I think I'll probably play varsity.adeveau wrote:I thought there were some mumblings about F/S. My bad.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Oh, we'll find a way. *evil laughter, fiddling of hands, and master plotting*Oliver Ellsworth wrote:Why wouldn't we have Lloyd?adeveau wrote:1. Auburn (with Lloyd)
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Jane Fairfax wrote:I'll be a full-time varsity player with a bit of F/S play.adeveau wrote:I thought there were some mumblings about F/S. My bad.
Yeah you will.
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Maybe we need to actually get a practice in. Some sort of practice. Any type at all.Oliver Ellsworth wrote:Jane Fairfax wrote:I'll be a full-time varsity player with a bit of F/S play.adeveau wrote:I thought there were some mumblings about F/S. My bad.
Yeah you will.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
1. Auburn
2. St. Ignatius
3. Loyola
4. Stevenson
5. Lisle
6. Viator
7. Carbondale
8. Naperville Central
9. BG
10. IMSA
2. St. Ignatius
3. Loyola
4. Stevenson
5. Lisle
6. Viator
7. Carbondale
8. Naperville Central
9. BG
10. IMSA
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Hmm. I wish I knew how good Stevenson was aside from Zach. I'm gonna rank them based on what I've been hearing/reading. #1-3 is really hard to do. Lisle would be here if it wasn't only AA.
1) Stevenson
2) Auburn
3) St. Ignatius (it's pretty scary to think that this ranking is solely based on Deveau. I wonder how much help there will be)
4) Loyola
5) Carbondale (I think people are sleeping on them, just a bit. Jeremiah + Ben Chametzky + other solid players will be a pretty solid force)
6) Viator
7) IMSA (if Bonny plays... which is pretty iffy)
8) Fremd (I wanna see that one guy play...)
9) WWS
10) BG
1) Stevenson
2) Auburn
3) St. Ignatius (it's pretty scary to think that this ranking is solely based on Deveau. I wonder how much help there will be)
4) Loyola
5) Carbondale (I think people are sleeping on them, just a bit. Jeremiah + Ben Chametzky + other solid players will be a pretty solid force)
6) Viator
7) IMSA (if Bonny plays... which is pretty iffy)
8) Fremd (I wanna see that one guy play...)
9) WWS
10) BG
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The rest of Stevenson is pretty good. It's not just AA.Jacopo Robusti wrote:Hmm. I wish I knew how good Stevenson was aside from Zach. I'm gonna rank them based on what I've been hearing/reading. #1-3 is really hard to do. Lisle would be here if it wasn't only AA.
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Jane Fairfax wrote:Maybe we need to actually get a practice in. Some sort of practice. Any type at all.Oliver Ellsworth wrote:Jane Fairfax wrote:I'll be a full-time varsity player with a bit of F/S play.adeveau wrote:I thought there were some mumblings about F/S. My bad.
Yeah you will.
Good point. If you're not there tomorrow, I'll have you maimed.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
I return from my tempban like Jean Valjean returned after 19 years in the quarries of Toulon!
Anyways...I don't really have anything to say, just wanted to make the Les Mis reference. More people need to vote!
Anyways...I don't really have anything to say, just wanted to make the Les Mis reference. More people need to vote!
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Final results:
1. Auburn - 103
2. Stevenson - 101
3. Saint Ignatius - 92
4. Loyola - 78
5. Saint Viator - 60
6. Carbondale - 39
7. Fremd - 36
7. Lisle - 36
9. BG - 20
10. IMSA - 15
11. Wheaton-Warrenville South - 14
12. Naperville Central - 12
Near-misses: NT, Latin, Litchfield.
What are your initial reactions? I think my team's too high.
EDIT: Forgot to put vote totals in for Fremd/Lisle
1. Auburn - 103
2. Stevenson - 101
3. Saint Ignatius - 92
4. Loyola - 78
5. Saint Viator - 60
6. Carbondale - 39
7. Fremd - 36
7. Lisle - 36
9. BG - 20
10. IMSA - 15
11. Wheaton-Warrenville South - 14
12. Naperville Central - 12
Near-misses: NT, Latin, Litchfield.
What are your initial reactions? I think my team's too high.
EDIT: Forgot to put vote totals in for Fremd/Lisle
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
A couple of general observations:
1) I believe that the top four will change more often than a lot of people care to admit due to various factors.
2) Expect a couple of the lower-ranked teams to move up near the top.
2) To what degree did people consider teams' ability to travel and quality questions in their rankings?
Aside from that, the Loyola coach abstains. Courteously.
1) I believe that the top four will change more often than a lot of people care to admit due to various factors.
2) Expect a couple of the lower-ranked teams to move up near the top.
2) To what degree did people consider teams' ability to travel and quality questions in their rankings?
Aside from that, the Loyola coach abstains. Courteously.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Much like football, it feels as if the time for forcasting is over and the action should begin. Let's quizbowl!
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Yes, the only sure thing about this season is that those top teams should move around.David Riley wrote:A couple of general observations:
1) I believe that the top four will change more often than a lot of people care to admit due to various factors.
I expect two teams, Lisle and Carbondale, to impress a lot of people.David Riley wrote:2) Expect a couple of the lower-ranked teams to move up near the top.
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Re: Illinois Pre-Season Top 10 Poll
Carbondale will surprise a lot of people, for sure. They have multiple quality sophomores, and at least one will play indispensably on varsity. I really have no idea how good Lisle is. I know Greg's a phenomenal player, and I saw Neal Kfoury get questions at camp, but I guess BJ Houlding is right. We just need to play.Jane Fairfax wrote:Yes, the only sure thing about this season is that those top teams should move around.David Riley wrote:A couple of general observations:
1) I believe that the top four will change more often than a lot of people care to admit due to various factors.
I expect two teams, Lisle and Carbondale, to impress a lot of people.David Riley wrote:2) Expect a couple of the lower-ranked teams to move up near the top.
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