ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by powerplant » Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:54 pm

Hi, this is just an announcement for the Centre College mirror of Harvard's T-Party tournament. It's a packet submission event, with those details cross posted from the main thread here:
Andy Watkins wrote:PACKET SUBMISSION DETAILS

We want packets. We don't (here's the part where I say "don't" again, but somehow you miss it both times) want packets to come in the week before the tournament. That is quite unpleasant! You wouldn't want me to start coming up with particularly horrifying things to compare it to, now would you? In a submitted packet, we'd like to see:

5/5 literature (1/1 American, 1/1 British, 1/1 European, 1/1 World, 1/1 additional of any category)
5/5 history (1/1 American, 3/3 European [of which one question is on British history and one is on ancient history], 1/1 World)
5/5 science (1/1 physics, 1/1 chemistry, 1/1 biology, 1/1 other science [math, CS, earth science, astrophysics; don't do two of the same], 1/1 additional of any category or difficult-to-categorize topics)
3/3 RMP (1/1 mythology, 1/1 religion, 1/1 philosophy; try to ensure that your mythology is about dudes and deeds and your religion is about worship)
3/3 fine arts (1/1 painting, 1/1 non-opera music, 1/1 other arts [opera, architecture, sculpture, dance, photography, film, jazz, questions about Bob Dylan if you are Chris White; please do one vis and one aud])
2/2 social science (at least one question must be geography; no more than 1/1 can be geography)
1/1 trash
24/24 total

Here's the submission schedule, based off the date we imagine most mirrors will take place, 2/13:

12/20: -$50 (-$75 for teams that don't have to submit by ACF guidelines) -- if you gift-wrap your packet and mail it to one of us, you are discounted whatever that would cost you because it would make me SO HAPPY
1/3: -$25 (-$50 for teams that don't have to submit by ACF guidelines)
1/17: $0 (-$25 for teams that don't have to submit by ACF guidelines)
1/24: +$25
1/31: +$50
2/7: +$100
After 2/7, we'll grant twenty-four hour extensions one at a time; each one will cost $10.

Here's something that is a little unclear sometimes: when does this amorphous blob we call "12/20" end? This is particularly difficult because of time zones. So here it is: if your packet isn't in one of our hands by 4:00am Central time on the night of the deadline day (so your clock would, technically, read 4:00am 12/21, for example), then you have missed the deadline. There won't be leniency here because leniency gets exploited. End of story.

DO I HAVE TO SUBMIT A PACKET? As per ACF guidelines, if your teams has one or more players on it who's played a tournament before September of 2008, then you have to submit a packet.
We'll be charging a base fee of $100, with ten dollar discounts for buzzers and staffers. Teams without official school funding or who are playing short should email me about working out a discounted rate.

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Post by BGSO » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:28 am

Are there any field updates?

Also are there any plans to run Mike Bentley's visual art tournament?
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Post by Scott » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:37 am

We are going to bring a team to this.
If you have the arts tournament, I will enter that.
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Post by goblue16 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:59 am

Michigan is planning on attending this and will probably bring 2-3 teams.
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Post by goblue16 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:16 pm

goblue16 wrote:Michigan is planning on attending this and will probably bring 2-3 teams.
Also, if you do mirror the visual arts tournament there would be at least two Michigan people who would play it.
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Post by SHM » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:14 pm

Joe,
Dunbar would like to bring a team to this tournament.
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Post by Papa's in the House » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:26 am

Illinois plans on bringing 2 teams to this mirror.
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Post by SHM » Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:32 pm

Joe,
Actually, Dunbar would like to bring two teams. We can also bring buzzers.

Thanks! SHM @P.L. Dunbar
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Post by jdd2007 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:01 am

Ohio State will be here with one team.
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Post by itsthatoneguy » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:24 am

Woot for the visual FA side
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Post by Scott » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:13 am

Can we have a field update, Joe?

When will we need to arrive at Centre to register, start playing, etc?
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:46 pm

WKU will be there with one team, although if the other people interested in going aren't able to make it, it will just be me playing solo.
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Post by powerplant » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:33 pm

grayson77 wrote:Can we have a field update, Joe?

When will we need to arrive at Centre to register, start playing, etc?
Here's what I have thus far:

Ballard High School (0-1 team)
Dunbar (2 teams)
Grayson County (1 team)
Danville High (0-1 team)
Michigan (2-3 teams)
Ohio State (1 team)
Illinois (2 teams)
Louiville (0-2 teams)
Western Kentucky (1 team)

As for the visual arts tournament, I know of a couple people from various schools that are interested.

If you're attending, please let me know your final team count and the number of buzzers you can bring as soon as possible, just so I know what I'm looking at as far as my staff is concerned. My email is joe (daht) wells (at) centre (daht) edu.
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Post by sds » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:50 pm

I'm almost certain Michigan will have 2 teams; we'll know for sure by Wednesday night. We can bring 3-4 sets of buzzers (the fourth doesn't work so well, though).
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Post by Papa's in the House » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:13 am

We can bring up to 2 buzzer sets (providing no buzzers are broken before the date of this mirror).
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Post by goblue16 » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:13 pm

Any word on if the visual arts tournament will be mirrored here or not?
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Post by powerplant » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:32 pm

The visual arts tourney will be mirrored here as well. I'm not sure on the price yet, but it will likely be $10, as my team needs the money.
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Post by sds » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:00 pm

We'll for sure have 2 teams, and I think 3 buzzers. We'll probably have 2-3 players for the visual arts tournament, and I can moderate for that if needed.
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Post by Scott » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:11 pm

Our coaches have decided that it is in our best interest to not attend this tournament.
Two of our starters have prior obligations and we do not see the point competing against teams of this caliber when we are shorthanded.
We would love to come to any high school or college events at Centre in the future.
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Post by mkanu » Sat Feb 06, 2010 1:22 pm

hi everyone,
while duPont Manual High School can't make it, a team eerily similar to Manual will be there. (and we might bring buzzers)

and as a clarification we'll probably be bringing only 1 team.

oh, and we might have some people for the Visual Arts Tournament

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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:40 pm

I will be there on an "open team" with Scott Blain and Cole Phelps from Grayson County, along with a guy who graduated from Grayson County in 2007. We'll have 2 people for the Visual Arts tournament and will be bringing a buzzer system.

I haven't played quizbowl in 9 months (although that's better than the 3 years the other guy on our team has gone without playing) so I'm looking forward to getting back into competition.
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Post by sds » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:07 pm

Any chance we could get a field/format update for this? Also, are you set with buzzers?
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Post by goblue16 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:19 pm

Michigan will have two teams.
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Post by powerplant » Wed Feb 10, 2010 9:32 pm

The field as it stands:

Dunbar A
Dunbar B
DuPont Mañuel
Michigan A
Michigan B
Illinois A
Illinois B
Ohio State A
Ohio State B
Grayson County '09

If any of these schools/teams hasn't received the email I sent out on Monday about where we are meeting, please email me so I can forward it to you. Otherwise, I hope to see you on Saturday!
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:09 pm

I hope you find an eleventh team so you can support a bye.
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Wed Feb 10, 2010 11:35 pm

powerplant wrote: DuPont Mañuel
Nice one.
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Post by powerplant » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:53 am

Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:I hope you find an eleventh team so you can support a bye.
In the event that no team materializes out of the ether, we'll be fielding a house team of my novice freshmen, for that very purpose.
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:57 am

powerplant wrote:
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:I hope you find an eleventh team so you can support a bye.
In the event that no team materializes out of the ether, we'll be fielding a house team of my novice freshmen, for that very purpose.
Why isn't Danville sending a team? It's not like they have to travel far. Or at all.
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Post by powerplant » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:01 am

Gerd Bockmann wrote:
powerplant wrote:
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:I hope you find an eleventh team so you can support a bye.
In the event that no team materializes out of the ether, we'll be fielding a house team of my novice freshmen, for that very purpose.
Why isn't Danville sending a team? It's not like they have to travel far. Or at all.
Since Dowell and Rachel are still sophomores, playing this tournament would mean they'd need to write packets for ACF Fall their senior year.
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Post by Quantum Mushroom Billiard Hat » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:06 am

powerplant wrote:
Gerd Bockmann wrote:
powerplant wrote:
Crazy Andy Watkins wrote:I hope you find an eleventh team so you can support a bye.
In the event that no team materializes out of the ether, we'll be fielding a house team of my novice freshmen, for that very purpose.
Why isn't Danville sending a team? It's not like they have to travel far. Or at all.
Since Dowell and Rachel are still sophomores, playing this tournament would mean they'd need to write packets for ACF Fall their senior year.
I think this is wrong. ACF people, help?
ACF wrote:Any collegiate team with at least one person on it who played a regular, collegiate, academic quizbowl tournament prior to September 1, 2008 is required to submit a packet in order to participate in an ACF tournament in 2009-2010.
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:26 am

powerplant wrote: Since Dowell and Rachel are still sophomores, playing this tournament would mean they'd need to write packets for ACF Fall their senior year.
If this does apply to high schoolers, I'm still not sure that's such a bad thing. I'd have to think that having writing experience before college would be a benefit. I know I sure wish I'd written some in High School. It would be one less thing I'd have to learn from scratch over the next couple years.
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Post by Frater Taciturnus » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:09 am

High school teams are never required to submit packets to ACF events.
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Post by Scott » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:55 am

Danville should enter a team.
They would have to travel about 10 minutes or less and would get some great experience for their relatively young team.
I'm sure Rachel and Dowell wouldn't have any trouble writing a packet, certainly not by the time they are seniors.
I have written packets numerous times, and won't mind submitting them when I'm a senior or maybe even next year.
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Post by Mechanical Beasts » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:59 am

grayson77 wrote:I'm sure Rachel and Dowell wouldn't have any trouble writing a packet, certainly not by the time they are seniors.
... and they won't have to!
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powerplant wrote:If any of these schools/teams hasn't received the email I sent out on Monday about where we are meeting, please email me so I can forward it to you. Otherwise, I hope to see you on Saturday!
I've emailed you about this, but just in case: we didn't receive the email from Monday. Would you mind forwarding it to qbtriumvirate@umich.edu?
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Post by powerplant » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:26 pm

I've just received the okay to run a mirror of Trashtwostrophe, if teams are interested in doing this following the visual arts tournament. We'd charge $10 for teams of two.
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Post by Scott » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:16 pm

Nick/Cole and I would like to do the trash tournament.
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:07 am

What time should this thing (side events and all) be over?
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Post by goblue16 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:28 am

Gerd Bockmann wrote:What time should this thing (side events and all) be over?
I have the same question myself. If the trash tournament does not start at an obscene time (~9) then a few Michigan people would love to play it, but I really don't see how that would be possible.
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Post by Papa's in the House » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:55 am

Provided some contingent of Illinois people stay and play Trashtwostrophe, I can moderate for that (though don't count on it, as some of us have written for the set, like me).
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Post by powerplant » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:49 am

Gerd Bockmann wrote:What time should this thing (side events and all) be over?
I'm not entirely sure. I mean, if everything goes smoothly, it shouldn't run that late. If the main event takes forever, I'll probably take a vote afterward to see which of the two side events people want to play, and just run that one.
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Post by Geringer » Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:15 am

I'll state it now that by some chance Trashtwostrophe gets played instead of the art tourney, call me so I can go into hiding. The last thing I want is for a certain member of my team to show up at my dorm room at 3am ready to reenact the St. Valentine's Day Massacre. Seriously, though, unless you're getting unbelievable amounts of interest for Trashtwostrophe and little interest for Eyes, please run the art tournament for the sake of my existence.
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Post by Captain Sinico » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:33 pm

Or, on actual considerations, you might consider that you already announced that you're going to run the visual art tournament after the main tournament, so you should probably keep your promises to your field (tempting as it doubtless is to break your work and run a high school trash tournament instead!)
Also, there's really no way you're going to be able to run three tournaments like this in a single day.

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Post by powerplant » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:04 pm

Captain Sinico wrote:Or, on actual considerations, you might consider that you already announced that you're going to run the visual art tournament after the main tournament, so you should probably keep your promises to your field (tempting as it doubtless is to break your work and run a high school trash tournament instead!)
Also, there's really no way you're going to be able to run three tournaments like this in a single day.

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I'd only find it tempting if more people want to play the trash than the visual arts (which I don't think is going to happen). The trash thing is more of a "hey, when we're done if people still want to do this, I have permission to run this" type deal.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by powerplant » Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:46 pm

Stats are up: http://results.scobo.net/SQBS.aspx?org= ... =standings

Thanks to everyone who came, and congrats to Illinois A for a championship well earned. I was told of a few stat errors, which I hope to get fixed sometime tomorrow.

Also, congrats to Bryan Berend on winning the visual arts event.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by Quantum Mushroom Billiard Hat » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:13 pm

Our team seems to be missing from the "team detail" and "individual detail" pages, so it would be nice if that were among your corrections.
Also, could you turn on round report?

Thanks for hosting a very fun tournament. The moderators could have used more practice, but that's to be expected for the first event hosted anywhere. I generally liked the set quite a bit, and (watching) the arts tournament was a lot of fun too.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by Huang » Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:17 pm

Yeah, the tournament was definitely fun. It was really nice getting to play teams like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio State without having to travel more than 50 miles. I'm looking forward to future tournaments at Centre.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by Duncan Idaho » Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:27 pm

List of ferry operators in Japan wrote:Our team seems to be missing from the "team detail" and "individual detail" pages, so it would be nice if that were among your corrections.
Dunbar A is also missing from the detail pages.
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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Centre T-Party Mirror 2/13/2010

Post by itsthatoneguy » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:59 pm

For a team that has never hosted before, this was run surprisingly well. Good job. I really enjoyed the side tournament as well.
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Post by Rococo A Go Go » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:19 pm

I look forward to being at any college events you all host, only next time with WKU people. I'm sure that Grayson County will also be looking forward to being at any high school tourneys you all host as well. Congrats on a tournament well run.


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