PRELIMARY ANNOUNCEMENT: All-TV Set

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:53 pm

Hey.

I'm writing a set of at least 10 packets of all TV tossups. There is no distribution. It is highly vanity. It will be quite hard, with tossups on TV shows or characters that you MAY NOT have heard of (although I'm certainly going to try to write on interesting stuff, not some 1950 sitcom that aired twice). In short, this is where I plan on putting some questions that are just too hard for regular trash tournaments.

In the spirit of good quizbowl and Matt Weiner, I will not write for this until all of my normal quizbowl responsibilities are completed and then I will split time between this and Fred's movie tournament. Since this is vanity in nature, I don't anticipate it taking that long to write (as opposed to Fred's, who being a better editor, is constructing a well distributed, cinematically important set).

Assuming that my "normal quizbowl responsibilities" are done around mid to late March, I could conceivably finish this set before the first wave of summer tournaments.

AKKOLADE · Post by **AKKOLADE** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:08 pm

Whoa wait, I'm a good editor? That's a pantsload.

Rothlover · Post by **Rothlover** » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:18 pm

Knowing how Mike seems to skew TV-wise, I eagerly anticipate this set. I do hope for some interesting non-traditional answer choices. Also there is tons of shit you can't see outside of the museum of television that is "important" so I hope viewing accessibility doesn't interfere with asking about some of those things.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Sun May 16, 2010 10:06 pm

I'm working with Rob on a trashy sort of set for Minnesota Open next year (or for something), so this set is going to either be collapsed into that or appended as a side event for that, so as not to overlap answers too much.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:53 pm

BUMP AND UPDATE

I've taken the crazier ideas from this and written an Impossible Speedcheck version of it. It will be 12 packets of 20 three-line tossups. It doesn't really have a set distribution, but I have spread it around. It is somewhat sitcom-heavy. It's half done now and should even be finished by this weekend, so anyone who wants to play it or mirror it can have it (I don't care about money).

The questions are pretty hard, although they range from insane to important to pretty easy with hard lead-ins.

Demonic Leftovers · Post by **Demonic Leftovers** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:54 pm

Would it be possible to have this played as a side tournament at CULT?

Mike Bentley · Post by **Mike Bentley** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:58 pm

dseal wrote:Would it be possible to have this played as a side tournament at CULT?

I'd like to see this played Saturday night during CULT if possible.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:26 pm

I'd be willing to have it at CULT, although for those not going to be there or who don't care, I'll have it with me at NSC in case people want a short, trashy side event.

Edward Elric · Post by **Edward Elric** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:06 am

Cheynem wrote:I'd be willing to have it at CULT, although for those not going to be there or who don't care, I'll have it with me at NSC in case people want a short, trashy side event.

I'd be interested in playing.

Duncan Idaho · Post by **Duncan Idaho** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:22 am

Cheynem wrote:I'd be willing to have it at CULT, although for those not going to be there or who don't care, I'll have it with me at NSC in case people want a short, trashy side event.

If this does happen as a side event at NSC, is it more likely to take place Friday night or Saturday night?

... and the chaos of Mexican modernity · Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:56 am

Cheynem wrote:I'd be willing to have it at CULT, although for those not going to be there or who don't care, I'll have it with me at NSC in case people want a short, trashy side event.

I really don't know much TV, but I would like to play this.

Red-necked Phalarope · Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:32 am

I won't be at NSC (helping run a conference), but I'd love to play this at CULT.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:52 am

If it does happen at NSC, it'll probably be somewhat ad hoc, as I have no control over facilities.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:24 pm

This set is now finished. I can't count, so it is actually 200 tossups (either 10 packets of 20 tossups, or as I imagine it, more of a shootout). Tossups are power marked and in some cases are 15 all the way through. As I've said, I'll bring it with me to NSC and if we end up running it there, so be it. If anyone else wants it, also so be it, and if people want it at CULT, again, fine.

Dan-Don · Post by **Dan-Don** » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:41 pm

I'll try my best to play this at NSC.

Rothlover · Post by **Rothlover** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:26 pm

If possible I'd like to play this set remotely if possible. This set embodies the ideal of "studying for trash."

Charbroil · Post by **Charbroil** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:34 pm

This sounds interesting; when and where might this be at PACE NSC?

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:40 pm

I think, pending interest and time, this set will be placed as a shootout sometime Sunday after NSC. If this doesn't work for you and you want it and aren't planning on playing any other mirrors, e-mail me next week (when I get back from D.C.) and I'll send it to you.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:19 am

We played it in two rooms as a shootout. I only have one room's full stats:

Rob Carson: 17/26/6
Chris Ray: 9/9/14
Eric Muhkerjee: 9/7/6
Michael P.: 2/2/4
Ike Jose: 4/1/0
Guy Tabachnick: 11/6/8
Jerry Vinokurov: 7/2/4
Charlie Dees: 4/4/15 (!)
Bernadette Spencer: 4/5/2
Andrew Lim: 7/5/2
Fred Morlan (came in very late): 0/1/0

In the other room, I think Matt Weiner dominated.

Cody · Post by **Cody** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:59 pm

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Room 1:            15    10    -5    Total    TUH     PPTH      P:N
Rob Carson         17    26     6      485    200    2.425  2.83333
Chris Ray           9     9    14      155    200    0.775  0.64286
Eric Mukherjee      9     7     6      175    200    0.875      1.5
Michael P           2     2     4       30    200     0.15      0.5
Ike Jose            4     1     0       70    200     0.35  #DIV/0!
Guy Tabachnick     11     6     8      185    200    0.925    1.375
Jerry Vinokurov     7     2     4      105    200    0.525     1.75
Charlie Dees        4     4    15       25    200    0.125  0.26667
Bernadette Spencer  4     5     2      100    200      0.5        2
Andrew Lim          7     5     2      145    200    0.725      3.5
Fred Morlan (Late)  0     1     0       10      ?        ?  #DIV/0!
								
Room 2:            15     10    -5    Total    TUH     PPTH     P:N
Jonathan Magin      1      4     2       45    200    0.225     0.5
Andrew Hart         2      1     2       30    200     0.15       1
Andrew Feist        8      7     3      175    200    0.875  2.6667
Jeffrey Hill        7      2     1      120    200      0.6       7
Donald Taylor       7      4     3      130    200     0.65  2.3333
Will Butler         5      0     3       60    200      0.3  1.6667
Susan Ferrari       5      9     5      140    200      0.7       1
George Berry        2      5     1       75    200    0.375       2
Matt Weiner        48     28     9      955    200    4.775  5.3333
Evan Adams          2      1     2       30    200     0.15       1
Mike Sorice        10      8     8      190    200     0.95    1.25
Fred Morlan (Late)  0      1     2        0      ?        ?       0

MicroEStudent · Post by **MicroEStudent** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:43 pm

I am interested in playing this set at CULT as is my fellow staffer Kevin Bub.

Papa's in the House · Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:02 pm

Do you think you could pass this set along to Jeff Geringer? I'd like to play it at the Land of Lincoln Throwdown Tournament (so long as other people are interested and Jeff is OK with hosting it).

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:10 pm

Yeah, I'll pass it to Jeff if he wants it.

Ethnic history of the Vilnius region · Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:32 am

I would be interested in playing a CULT version of this.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:29 pm

I'll bring this with me to CULT and if I get my druthers up, will write a few more "bonus" questions for those who played the initial set to "enjoy."

Charlie and Lolcat · Post by **Charlie and Lolcat** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:51 pm

Count me in for this as a CULT side event.

Ethnic history of the Vilnius region · Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:52 am

Sweet.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:11 pm

100 all-new, blind-to-all questions guaranteed to further disgust Evan Adams will be appended to the original 200 question set for its CULT iteration.

vcuEvan · Post by **vcuEvan** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:19 pm

Cheynem wrote:100 all-new, blind-to-all questions guaranteed to further disgust Evan Adams will be appended to the original 200 question set for its CULT iteration.

Nonsense! I can't possibly be disgusted any further.

Sima Guang Hater · Post by **Sima Guang Hater** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:04 pm

Cheynem wrote:100 all-new, blind-to-all questions guaranteed to further disgust Evan Adams will be appended to the original 200 question set for its CULT iteration.

Can we play these extra 100 questions at ANGST?

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:14 pm

Sure. Just tell me whom to send it to.

Cody · Post by **Cody** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:41 pm

So we just ran this after the CULT today, here are the stats for the extra 100 questions in my room:

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                 15    10    -5    Total      TUH      PPTH      P:N
Matt Weiner      18    16    5     405        100      4.05      3.6
Andrew Lim       3     4           85         100      0.85      #DIV/0!
Rob Carson       6     14    2     220        100      2.2       3
Chris Ray        6     3     6     90         100      0.9       1
Logan Anbinder         2           20         100      0.2       #DIV/0!
Will Butler      1                 15         100      0.15      #DIV/0!
George Berry     4     4     1     95         100      0.95      4
Evan Adams             3     1     25         100      0.25      0
Chris W          3     1           25         ???      #VALUE!   0
Matt Bollinger         2     2     10         100      0.1       0
SteveJon Guth                1     -5         100      -0.05     0

Mike Bentley · Post by **Mike Bentley** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:31 pm

I'll have the stats for the room I was in posted tomorrow assuming I remember to get them out of George's car.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:41 am

I kept stats for my room at CULT and will post it "sometime." Eye-balling it, either Eric Douglass or Adam Fine appears to have won.

Mike Bentley · Post by **Mike Bentley** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:31 pm

Here are the results from playing the set in our room:

Mike Bentley: 17 / 8 / 17 = 250

Steve Bahnaman: 20 / 19 / 13 = 425

Ben Frank: 16 / 18 / 6 = 390

Aaron Dos Remedios: 20 / 9 / 17 = 305

Brice Russ: 4 / 3 / 2 = 80

Dan Goff: 7 / 10 / 1 = 200

Marcus Luna: 25 / 13 / 13 = 440

Jason Luna: 19 / 23 / 12 = 455

Kevin from RIT: 4 / 3 / 4 = 70

Helen Yamamoto: 0 / 0 / 0 = 0

Jon Wong (only played last 100): 0 / 0 / 0 = 0

Jordan Palmer (only played last 100): 10 / 3 / 5 = 155

stevebahnaman · Post by **stevebahnaman** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:02 pm

I totally blew goats on that last 100. :shakes fist: Nah, in all seriousness that room was a rollicking good time. Enjoyed the hell out of this.

Jamnman23 · Post by **Jamnman23** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:15 pm

stevebahnaman wrote:I totally blew goats on that last 100. :shakes fist: Nah, in all seriousness that room was a rollicking good time. Enjoyed the hell out of this.

I second this. I was feeling pretty good after the first 200 and knew very few questions after that. However, this was extremely chill and really enjoyable, so I didn't mind not knowing a whole lot of questions towards the end. I could tell everyone in our room very much enjoyed themselves.

MicroEStudent · Post by **MicroEStudent** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:42 am

I really enjoyed playing this set. Thanks for putting it together!

Mike Bentley · Post by **Mike Bentley** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:30 am

Jamnman23 wrote:
stevebahnaman wrote:I totally blew goats on that last 100. :shakes fist: Nah, in all seriousness that room was a rollicking good time. Enjoyed the hell out of this.
I second this. I was feeling pretty good after the first 200 and knew very few questions after that. However, this was extremely chill and really enjoyable, so I didn't mind not knowing a whole lot of questions towards the end. I could tell everyone in our room very much enjoyed themselves.

For whatever reason I was a lot better on the last 100 than the first 200. At least part of this is due to me not making so many hilariously bad negs.

stevebahnaman · Post by **stevebahnaman** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:52 am

Probably that's just the way it goes when the questions are about such wide-ranging and amazing topics.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:35 pm

I don't anticipate this played in any more official settings, so if you actually want to, talk specifically about it, and when I get a chance, I'll polish the whole thing up and send it to Mike for Wastebin if he wants it (I'm not sure what his policy is regarding side events).

EDIT: I forgot that this might be played at ANGST/ECSO. You can still talk about questions (I mean, if you're that pathetic to cheat, whatever). Also, someone let me know who I should send this to for those events.

Cheynem · Post by **Cheynem** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:24 pm

Hey, I found the stats I thought were lost from the CULT mirror of this. Here they are:

David Seal: 30/21/12
Jeremy Eaton: 16/7/7
Adam Fine: 36/21/8
Nate Kane: 18/10/11
Eric Douglass: 31/13/17
Preston Floyd: 10/6/5
Marnold: 16/14/14
Bryn Reinecke: 0/4/2
Robert Harden: 4/1/1