DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Old college threads.
User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: BARGE at Maryland (12/03/11)

Post by DumbJaques » Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:15 pm

After talking it over with everyone, this tournament has been moved to Saturday, January 14, 2012. It's still paired with Maryland's house-written trash tournament, TERP, will run the next day.

The announcement and packet submission schedule has been updated, and I'm looking for new mirror locations since I believe only Illinois is 100% able to host their site given the new date. Drop me a line if you're interested, or wish to register a team/join the free agent pool.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

The Schopenhauer Power Hour
Lulu
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:43 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by The Schopenhauer Power Hour » Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:19 pm

The announcement for TERP 2 (subtitle pending) is in the Trash subforum and can be found here.
Logan Anbinder
University of Maryland '12

User avatar
Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Chairman of Anti-Music Mafia Committee
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:46 pm
Location: Columbia, MO

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:48 pm

I think MU would still be interested in hosting this.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
"I won't say more because I know some of you parse everything I say." - Jeremy Gibbs

"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White

Adventure Temple Trail
Auron
Posts: 2613
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:52 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Adventure Temple Trail » Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:09 am

Given this scheduling move, I would greatly appreciate it if people from Maryland and Penn could tell us what's going to happen with the timing or happening of Terrapin and Penn Bowl this year. The spring schedule now looks unhealthily crowded - by my count BARGE, Terrapin, Penn Bowl, SCT, Regionals, GAAP, MUT, the Chicago tournament, Illinois Open, ICT, and ACF Nationals are all slated to happen. That's eleven tournaments in the fifteen-week span from January 14th to April 21st. Is this really what the spring semester is going to look like? How many teams have the time, dedication, and money to attend eleven events in three months?
Matt J.
ex-Georgetown Day HS, ex-Yale
member emeritus, ACF

Sailing away on my copper boat

User avatar
Skepticism and Animal Feed
Auron
Posts: 3178
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:47 pm
Location: Arlington, VA

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Skepticism and Animal Feed » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:09 am

Its all nice and well to collude with each other and create a perfectly distributed calendar, and it seems that Chris came into this thread intending to do just that. Then we all spent the first page of this thread convincing Chris that December is unviable. Its unfair for us to now yell at Chris for overcrowding.

If the reality is that not all possible weekends are equally viable then you will have bunched up tournaments. If you can't attend them all, pick the ones you want to and sleep in on the other weekends. Play the ones you cant attend at practice. As long as not all teams pick the same schedule, there should still be a vibrant circuit where all teams can avail themselves of the benefit of writing a tournament.
Bruce
Harvard '10 / UChicago '07 / Roycemore School '04
ACF Member emeritus
My guide to using Wikipedia as a question source

User avatar
Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Chairman of Anti-Music Mafia Committee
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:46 pm
Location: Columbia, MO

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:24 am

I frankly dislike that after all this hemming and hawwing about hammering out a well distributed calendar, some of those exact people who pushed hardest for the calendar decided to pester Chris into changing his long-announced date that helped to make the calendar a lot more balanced by ensuring a December event because they decided they would rather staff a high school tournament.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
"I won't say more because I know some of you parse everything I say." - Jeremy Gibbs

"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White

User avatar
Cheynem
Sin
Posts: 6598
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 11:19 am
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Cheynem » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:01 am

For what it's worth, I think GAAP and MUT are basically the same tournament now.
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota

"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger

User avatar
Matt Weiner
Sin
Posts: 8411
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:34 pm
Location: Richmond, VA

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Matt Weiner » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:03 am

College Park Spyders wrote:I frankly dislike that after all this hemming and hawwing about hammering out a well distributed calendar, some of those exact people who pushed hardest for the calendar decided to pester Chris into changing his long-announced date that helped to make the calendar a lot more balanced by ensuring a December event because they decided they would rather staff a high school tournament.
Uh, yeah, the problem would be that his date was announced not "long" in advance, but in fact after the semester had already started and several tournaments that people had committed to run or staff had been announced. From the beginning I've said that part of the calendar setup needs to be that people set the entire year in the summer and don't try to ad-hoc tournaments in later when there will inevitably be conflicts and difficulty in getting people to go. You yourself have demanded, reasonably, that ACF Nationals be set in stone early enough for Missouri to submit their budget request. I think this applies to many tournaments and many clubs.

Of course, the system has already collapsed since ACF Regionals hasn't even put out a call for hosts, no SCT sites are announced even though they're all going to be at the ACUI hosts that were designated over a year ago anyway, etc. So people can do whatever they want (as they always have been able to do) but hosts like Maryland will continue to try to maximize their tournament attendance by listening to what the needs of their attendees are (as they have always been able to do). Maybe next year will be when collegiate quizbowl finally starts to take itself seriously enough to think about not bleeding off teams every year in order to avoid "collusion" accusations from Bruce Arthur.
Matt Weiner
Founder of hsquizbowl.org

User avatar
Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Chairman of Anti-Music Mafia Committee
Posts: 5640
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:46 pm
Location: Columbia, MO

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN) » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:54 am

Chris said the tournament was going to be in December back in May. I agree it was baffling that the tournament date wasn't "officially" announced sooner since I knew enough about it that I had agreed to mirror it on December 3rd and I'm pretty sure it was already listed as such in those calendars Andrew Hart had put together, but it has been publicly claimed for a December date for a lot longer than this after semester started.
Charlie Dees, North Kansas City HS '08
"I won't say more because I know some of you parse everything I say." - Jeremy Gibbs

"At one TJ tournament the neg prize was the Hampshire College ultimate frisbee team (nude) calender featuring one Evan Silberman. In retrospect that could have been a disaster." - Harry White

User avatar
Important Bird Area
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 5503
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:33 pm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Important Bird Area » Fri Sep 30, 2011 11:59 am

Matt Weiner wrote:no SCT sites are announced even though they're all going to be at the ACUI hosts that were designated over a year ago anyway


This sentence is entirely misleading.

1. We do not expect "all" of our SCT hosts to be ACUI-affiliated (you can see here that of the nine SCT bids so far received, only three of them come from ACUI hosts.)

2. We haven't announced any sites yet because the bid deadline hasn't expired yet. (It's tonight at midnight, but because we only have nine bids and some of those overlap, I expect to be emailing potential host schools and/or posting an additional call for hosts on this board next week.) Note that pushing the SCT-announcement schedule back (bid deadline late September, NAQT makes decisions in October, announcements around November 1) was a direct response to feedback from this forum.
Jeff Hoppes
President, Northern California Quiz Bowl Alliance
former HSQB Chief Admin (2012-13)
VP for Communication and history subject editor, NAQT
Editor emeritus, ACF

"I wish to make some kind of joke about Jeff's love of birds, but I always fear he'll turn them on me Hitchcock-style." -Fred

User avatar
Ike
Yuna
Posts: 917
Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:01 pm
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Ike » Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:27 pm

For what it's worth, I think GAAP and MUT are basically the same tournament now.
They are. Also, I had planned for Illinois Open 2012 to not take place in the springtime due to this. I'm currently planning for its completion and thus playability in the summertime. Sorry for the lack of any communication.
Ike
UIUC 13

nurgles_herald
Lulu
Posts: 52
Joined: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:23 pm
Location: State College, PA
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by nurgles_herald » Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:42 pm

Penn State (read: me personally) is interested, but not sure about funding. The university is a bit of a dick when it comes to funding student activities, and paying a bunch of money so the little 'uns can get killed seems sub-optimal. I'll let you know what the deal is once I've talked to the treasurer.
Walker Yeatman, State College alumnus

User avatar
Cheynem
Sin
Posts: 6598
Joined: Tue May 11, 2004 11:19 am
Location: Grand Rapids, Michigan

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Cheynem » Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:35 am

Any word on mirrors? The main date of this tournament is during our winter break, which isn't a big deal but requires a little heads-up in terms of travel.
Mike Cheyne
Formerly U of Minnesota

"You killed HSAPQ"--Matt Bollinger

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:16 pm

So far, we've got mirrors at Illinois, Missouri, and Buffalo. I expect all those sites to have announcements up soon.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
MathMusic
Lulu
Posts: 68
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:00 pm
Location: University at Buffalo

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by MathMusic » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:24 pm

Buffalo's mirror date will probably be 1/21 instead of 1/14.
Matthew Hill
U Buffalo '14
Secretary, Past Treasurer and Founding Member, U Buffalo Academic Bowl 2010-2014
Captain, Pembroke, NY HS Quiz Team 2008-2010

User avatar
Matt Weiner
Sin
Posts: 8411
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2003 8:34 pm
Location: Richmond, VA

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Matt Weiner » Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:03 pm

I'm considering playing this tournament with VCU, but I wouldn't want to do so if there aren't any other wizened players participating. Can Jonathan, Jerry, et al give some sort of appraisal as to their chances of playing this event?
Matt Weiner
Founder of hsquizbowl.org

gyre and gimble
Tidus
Posts: 719
Joined: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:45 am

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by gyre and gimble » Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:47 pm

Dallas, Ted, and I are planning to play this tournament.
Stephen Liu
Torrey Pines '10
Harvard '14
Stanford '17

User avatar
Ondes Martenot
Tidus
Posts: 688
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:06 pm
Location: Troy, N.Y.

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:25 pm

Doug Yetman and I are teaming up for this. Other free agents are welcome to join us
Aaron Cohen, Bergen County Academies '08, RPI '12, NYU-???, NAQT writer, HSAPQ writer, PACE writer

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:28 am

The field has been updated, and looks to be pretty awesome. I'll add that I'm still seeking Southern, West Coast, Northeast, and perhaps other mirrors for the tournament.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
Mike Bentley
Auron
Posts: 5811
Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2006 11:03 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Mike Bentley » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:21 am

If Stanford or Berkeley hosted this tournament I'd try to get a team of Seattle people down to play it.
Mike Bentley
VP of Editing, Partnership for Academic Competition Excellence
Adviser, Quizbowl Team at University of Washington
University of Maryland, Class of 2008

User avatar
Auroni
Auron
Posts: 2999
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:23 pm
Location: Brooklyn

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Auroni » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:30 am

Mike Bentley wrote:If Stanford or Berkeley hosted this tournament I'd try to get a team of Seattle people down to play it.
If this happened, we'd go up as well.
Auroni Gupta
UIUC
ACF

User avatar
The King's Flight to the Scots
Auron
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:11 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:46 am

Yeah we're bringing a team to this.
Matt Bollinger
UVA '14, UVA '15
Communications Officer, ACF

User avatar
pray for elves
Auron
Posts: 1047
Joined: Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:58 pm
Location: 20001

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by pray for elves » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:54 am

I'm a free agent for this right now and I intend to play.

EDIT: Looks like I'm joining Jerry.
Evan
Georgetown Law Alum, Brandeis Alum, Oak Ridge High Alum
Ex-PACE, Ex-ACF

User avatar
Cody
2008-09 Male Athlete of the Year
Posts: 2304
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:57 am
Location: Richmond

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Cody » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:27 am

VCU is also bringing one team to this.
Cody Voight, VCU ‘14. I wrote lots of science and am an electrical engineer.
VCU Tournament Director ‘13-‘17. HSAPQ President ‘15-16.
Hero of Socialist Quizbowl Labor (NSC ‘14). “esteemed colleague” of Snap Wexley, ca. 2016. Stats Hero (Nats ‘16).
Quizbowl at VCU

User avatar
Important Bird Area
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 5503
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:33 pm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Important Bird Area » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:05 pm

Mike Bentley wrote:If Stanford or Berkeley hosted this tournament I'd try to get a team of Seattle people down to play it.
It is near-certain that we would not be able to get rooms on 1/14 (last weekend of our winter break). Let's ask Stanford.
Jeff Hoppes
President, Northern California Quiz Bowl Alliance
former HSQB Chief Admin (2012-13)
VP for Communication and history subject editor, NAQT
Editor emeritus, ACF

"I wish to make some kind of joke about Jeff's love of birds, but I always fear he'll turn them on me Hitchcock-style." -Fred

User avatar
Sima Guang Hater
Auron
Posts: 1852
Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:43 pm
Location: Philadelphia, PA

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Sima Guang Hater » Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:37 pm

Hilarius Bookbinder wrote:I'm a free agent for this right now and I intend to play.

EDIT: Looks like I'm joining Jerry.
HEY BREAKING SUPERTEAM RULE.
Eric Mukherjee, MD PhD
Washburn Rural High School, 2005
Brown University, 2009
Medical Scientist Training Program, Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania, 2018
Intern in Internal Medicine, Yale-Waterbury, 2018-9
Dermatology Resident, Vanderbilt University Medical Center, 2019-

Member Emeritus, ACF
Member, PACE
Writer, NAQT, NHBB, IQBT

"The next generation will always surpass the previous one. It's one of the never-ending cycles in life."

User avatar
Ondes Martenot
Tidus
Posts: 688
Joined: Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:06 pm
Location: Troy, N.Y.

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Ondes Martenot » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:47 pm

I should note that if a northeast mirror materializes, I will probably attend that instead.
Aaron Cohen, Bergen County Academies '08, RPI '12, NYU-???, NAQT writer, HSAPQ writer, PACE writer

User avatar
MathMusic
Lulu
Posts: 68
Joined: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:00 pm
Location: University at Buffalo

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by MathMusic » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:11 pm

Ondes Martenot wrote:I should note that if a northeast mirror materializes, I will probably attend that instead.
There will be a mirror in Buffalo, you're welcome to come even if it is a bit of a drive.
Matthew Hill
U Buffalo '14
Secretary, Past Treasurer and Founding Member, U Buffalo Academic Bowl 2010-2014
Captain, Pembroke, NY HS Quiz Team 2008-2010

User avatar
magin
Yuna
Posts: 956
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:50 pm
Location: College Park, MD

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by magin » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:53 pm

I plan on playing.
Jonathan Magin
Montgomery Blair HS '04, University of Maryland '08
Editor: ACF

"noted difficulty controller"

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:58 pm

I believe a Northeast mirror at Yale will be announced shortly. I'm still very much hoping to find mirror sites in the South and on the West Coast.

Also, if you told me about your plans for playing this event at MO yesterday, I don't really remember the specifics, so make sure you register via email/post.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
grapesmoker
Sin
Posts: 6365
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:23 pm
Location: NYC
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by grapesmoker » Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:35 pm

Matt Weiner wrote:I'm considering playing this tournament with VCU, but I wouldn't want to do so if there aren't any other wizened players participating. Can Jonathan, Jerry, et al give some sort of appraisal as to their chances of playing this event?
Saw this late, but I would say I'm pretty much set to play this thing. My team currently includes Evan Nagler; we'll be trying to pick up Andrew Lim if he's available, and our fourth is probably going to be a friend of mine from Pittsburgh who played a little bit in college.
Jerry Vinokurov
ex-LJHS, ex-Berkeley, ex-Brown, sorta-ex-CMU
code ape, loud voice, general nuissance

Magister Ludi
Tidus
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:57 am
Location: Washington DC
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Magister Ludi » Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:33 pm

Are you keeping these packet deadlines with the last deadline a whole month the tournament or would you consider pushing them back a week or so? It just seems like teams haven't even been fully formed for this event yet.
Ted Gioia - Harvard '12
Editor ACF, PACE

User avatar
TheHumanPaperweight
Lulu
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:06 pm
Location: Leesburg, VA
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by TheHumanPaperweight » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:08 am

Despite my misgivings at facing a field of this caliber and my literal zero writing experience, the phrases "not excessive difficulty" and "open" sound too good to pass up, so I would like to go for free-agent status here.
--Steve Ours
GMU 2011 BS in Mathematics
Now wandering the mid-atlantic with little purpose

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:08 pm

Despite my misgivings at facing a field of this caliber and my literal zero writing experience, the phrases "not excessive difficulty" and "open" sound too good to pass up, so I would like to go for free-agent status here.
I'm glad to hear it - the whole point of this event is to appeal to players in any boat, including yours. If you (or anyone else) has concerns about writing/etc., I certainly encourage you to email me.

If other people are concerned about the field caliber, I'd like to emphasize that the reason a lot of the top teams have already registered is in many cases because they're required to write packets. A lot of teams with more limited experience have no need to plan their trips in advance of the submission schedule, but I fully expect a number of them to be in attendance.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:14 pm

As I've gotten a few queries about this, I just want to emphasize: You DO NOT have to write a packet if you'd be packet-exempt under normal ACF requirements. This is mentioned in the announcement, but not clearly enough. As my entire goal with this tournament is to have an open event that regular teams are would feel fine attending, I really hope those circuit teams will be there, or the effort will be partially moot.

If teams are in situations where only one or two of their players would have to write and there's not much writing experience there, please email me and we'll figure something out. I want people to be able to play this tournament.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
Smuttynose Island
Forums Staff: Moderator
Posts: 500
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Smuttynose Island » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:54 pm

Out of curiosity, did you receive my team's packet?
Daniel Hothem
TJHSST '11 | UVA '15 | Oregon '??
"You are the stuff of legends" - Chris Manners
https://sites.google.com/site/academicc ... ubuva/home

User avatar
Papa's in the House
Tidus
Posts: 594
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:43 pm
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Papa's in the House » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:03 pm

Smuttynose Island wrote:Out of curiosity, did you receive my team's packet?
Better yet, can you post a list of the packets you've received and the discounts/penalties owed? I'd appreciate it.
Charles Martin Jr.
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
Academic Buzzer Team | President
B.S. in Accountancy, August 2011
B.S. in Finance, August 2011
MAS Program, Class of 2012

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:14 pm

Here's a general update on BARGE at this and other sites:

-I'm currently in pretty good shape in terms of packets, if everyone who's still working on their stuff comes through. That means that if you'd written off attending this tournament because of packet-writing reasons, you should definitely email me because I'd like you to be there. This goes for this and the Illinois site (and obviously, any other sites that don't have packet requirements).

-We've already got a few mid-level teams (to which we'll probably add Maryland B/Maryland C), so I really hope local programs will rethink their decision not to attend this tournament because of the field or whatever. We've even got some teams consisting mainly of new players. I anticipate this tournament having a very diverse field, and plan on giving people a high number of games vs. like competition.

-Per request, I'm adding a packets received/expected list to the initial announcement post. If you're on there but aren't working on a packet/are working on one but aren't on there, better let me know ASAP.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:45 am

Update:

I'm expecting to have 12 packets for this - I'm going to try for 13, but if things get dicey with outstanding submission, that may not be possible. Speaking of which, everything should have been submitted by now with the exception of Jerry and Penn. . . if anyone else is still writing a packet, for the love of god, let me know about it!

As far as the Maryland site goes, we're at a pretty vexing field size (10, not counting house teams). Six packets were written by teams at our site, though I'm not even sure that's a particularly limiting factor. I guess I'll open the floor up to the scheduling wizards on suggested alternatives to a straight round robin with byes (and 11 teams), but I'm not seeing many.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
The King's Flight to the Scots
Auron
Posts: 1460
Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:11 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by The King's Flight to the Scots » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:59 am

DumbJaques wrote:Update:

I'm expecting to have 12 packets for this - I'm going to try for 13, but if things get dicey with outstanding submission, that may not be possible. Speaking of which, everything should have been submitted by now with the exception of Jerry and Penn. . . if anyone else is still writing a packet, for the love of god, let me know about it!

As far as the Maryland site goes, we're at a pretty vexing field size (10, not counting house teams). Six packets were written by teams at our site, though I'm not even sure that's a particularly limiting factor. I guess I'll open the floor up to the scheduling wizards on suggested alternatives to a straight round robin with byes (and 11 teams), but I'm not seeing many.
So would this mean no advantaged final, or what?
Matt Bollinger
UVA '14, UVA '15
Communications Officer, ACF

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:17 am

Not if I get to 13 packets, which I'm aiming to do. I'm not sure what the alternative would be anyway, so I guess I'd better figure out a way to do it.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
Smuttynose Island
Forums Staff: Moderator
Posts: 500
Joined: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:07 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Smuttynose Island » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:00 am

DumbJaques wrote:Not if I get to 13 packets, which I'm aiming to do. I'm not sure what the alternative would be anyway, so I guess I'd better figure out a way to do it.
Would it be possible for you to write a packet yourself, possibly with the help of experienced players who are not playing BARGE? That way you don't have to rely on the submission of a thirteenth packet.
Daniel Hothem
TJHSST '11 | UVA '15 | Oregon '??
"You are the stuff of legends" - Chris Manners
https://sites.google.com/site/academicc ... ubuva/home

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:24 am

Would it be possible for you to write a packet yourself, possibly with the help of experienced players who are not playing BARGE? That way you don't have to rely on the submission of a thirteenth packet.
That's not really the situation - it's more an issue of not having the time to finish the full thirteen in a satisfactory way should the final few packets prove seriously flawed. I think I should be able to manage it though, but I wouldn't turn away any free question submissions (if you have some group of charitable "experience players" waiting at your beckon call or anything).
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
Rufous-capped Thornbill
Tidus
Posts: 711
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:03 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Rufous-capped Thornbill » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:52 am

Just curious, are you planning on using powers?

EDIT: wording.
Jarret Greene
South Range '10 / Ohio State '13 / Vermont '17
Member, PACE

User avatar
silverscreentest
Lulu
Posts: 75
Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:00 pm
Location: A legend in my own mind.

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by silverscreentest » Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:50 am

Will this tournament and TERP be in Jimenez Hall as usual?

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:14 pm

BARGE will run in Jimenez Hall - we'll meet in the basement room 0105 (AKA the usual spot), with registration beginning at 8:15 and rounds starting as close to 9 as possible. I'd like teams to be there by 8:45. As mentioned earlier in the thread, we'll be running a full round robin with advantaged finals as dictated. Should any finals take place, packets and rooms will be made available for placement games for any teams that want to stick around.

I suspect this info will be similar for TERP, but you should see that thread for details.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

The Schopenhauer Power Hour
Lulu
Posts: 91
Joined: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:43 pm

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by The Schopenhauer Power Hour » Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:48 pm

We are still looking for a couple of teams for TERP this Sunday, the day after BARGE (and also at UMD.) The tournament announcement can be found here; if you're interested, feel free to shoot me an email at logan.anbinder@gmail.com.
Logan Anbinder
University of Maryland '12

User avatar
DumbJaques
Forums Staff: Administrator
Posts: 3079
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:21 pm
Location: Columbus, OH

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by DumbJaques » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:59 pm

Hey, so Delaware and Pitt have dropped from the field, leaving us with 8 non-house teams. I will probably just fall back and spreading the house teams thin and sending our freshmen into the gaping maw of oblivion to maintain the schedule as is, but I'll entertain other ideas if people have them. The other option I can think of is doing full rr of 9 teams, breaking into 4-4-1 (odd man out scrimmages/house team drops/etc.) and playing playoff rr of 3 rounds. This leaves us with just a single finals packet but then again, that's less of a problem if you've played everyone twice. Teams who give a shit should let me know which they'd prefer.
Chris Ray
OSU
University of Chicago, 2016
University of Maryland, 2014
ACF, PACE

User avatar
Cody
2008-09 Male Athlete of the Year
Posts: 2304
Joined: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:57 am
Location: Richmond

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Cody » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:13 am

If we have 8 non-house teams, how about we just do 8 team RR (7 rounds) + 4-4 playoff split (3 rounds) = 10 rounds + tiebreaker packet + two packets for an advantaged final.
Cody Voight, VCU ‘14. I wrote lots of science and am an electrical engineer.
VCU Tournament Director ‘13-‘17. HSAPQ President ‘15-16.
Hero of Socialist Quizbowl Labor (NSC ‘14). “esteemed colleague” of Snap Wexley, ca. 2016. Stats Hero (Nats ‘16).
Quizbowl at VCU

User avatar
Papa's in the House
Tidus
Posts: 594
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:43 pm
Contact:

Re: DATE CHANGE: BARGE at Maryland (1/14/12)

Post by Papa's in the House » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:57 am

SirT wrote:If we have 8 non-house teams, how about we just do 8 team RR (7 rounds) + 4-4 playoff split (3 rounds) = 10 rounds + tiebreaker packet + two packets for an advantaged final.
Packet submissions make this impossible.
Charles Martin Jr.
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
Academic Buzzer Team | President
B.S. in Accountancy, August 2011
B.S. in Finance, August 2011
MAS Program, Class of 2012

Locked