Thanks - I figured that was likely, but hey, from what I hear, Kaneland is quite good.King of Carrot Flowers wrote:Auburn won their sectional, just for reference.
P.S. Congrats on avenging your seeding!
Thanks - I figured that was likely, but hey, from what I hear, Kaneland is quite good.King of Carrot Flowers wrote:Auburn won their sectional, just for reference.
Hunter Fast. How could you possibly blank on "Hunter Fast"?Coach G wrote:Bloomington (Christina, the young man who was so strong in social studies - I'm blanking on his name right now, but I think either his first or last name starts with F, +), and Auburn (Siva, John, Michael +).
Yeah, the pool with Carbondale in it could go so many ways. I considered each of the combinations of two teams coming from it and decided I wouldn't be surprised for any of them to actually be the top two advancing to the final round. In particular, I think Buffalo Grove will give teams a harder time than they currently realize. Our pool seems less wide-open, although, realistically IMSA, New Trier, and Auburn all have a shot of winning it.Moving Day wrote:Looking it over, this could be the most powerful Class AA field I've seen. No shame in going 0-3 in pool play on Friday, IMO.
Would the IHSA or everyone else ever consider a three class state series? This would expand the number of teams at state, and allow competition among the larger schools.mr_basque wrote:Without including question quality (which I think would likely be most peoples answer to this question), what single issue/structural change would you like to see with the IHSA state series.
Personally, I would love to see the number of teams at the state tournament expanded.
Back when it was single-elim throughout, the top two teams from Sectionals made it to State.garciaja wrote:Would the IHSA or everyone else ever consider a three class state series? This would expand the number of teams at state, and allow competition among the larger schools.mr_basque wrote:Without including question quality (which I think would likely be most peoples answer to this question), what single issue/structural change would you like to see with the IHSA state series.
Personally, I would love to see the number of teams at the state tournament expanded.
While I understand the IHSA's ascertion that it would increase cost, but I think there are so many ways that you could cut there costs down to begin with that I hope there is another reason than that.dtaylor4 wrote: The problem with expanding the tournament is that you'd have to expand the # of rounds, which increases the cost. Because of the increase in cost, it would be a no-go.
The IHSA isn't interested in this. The goal of the State Series in any sport or activity, according to the bylaws or some similar document, is to select a state champion, and nothing else. Unfortunately, because the IHSA treats Scholastic Bowl like a sport, that means they aren't interested in giving teams good experiences by quizbowl standards or multiple rounds. They don't have the principle that good tournaments have wherein your first loss doesn't eliminate you, which means that by our standards they don't (necessarily) correctly determine the best team, and they have no interest in correctly ranking teams below #1.mr_basque wrote:Personally, I would love to see the number of teams at the state tournament expanded. There are so many powerhouse sectionals (New Trier, Loyola) with teams that on any given day could run the table it seems a shame that they be excluded because of a single round at sectionals.
Partly the above — it's not a goal of theirs to run a good or efficient tournament, or one with many rounds. The staff also presents a problem: the moderators are mostly bad from top to bottom — many of the individual moderators are unqualified and bad, and the management of them is plagued with problems (including, but definitely not limited to, allowing what I just said).mr_basque wrote:Not directly related but another confusion I have is although I have not been coaching very long, I have never understood how Mike Laudermith or Matt Laird or Jonah can run a tournament with 24 teams, running 10 rounds and have everything work so smooth and then the IHSA seems to struggle to get in 4 rounds in seemingly the same amount of time. Does this go back to everything that makes it scholastic bowl instead of quizbowl?
It's been discussed before, but it would cost more money, and the IHSA isn't interested in spending more money on Scholastic Bowl since it doesn't really bring in any money.garciaja wrote:Would the IHSA or everyone else ever consider a three class state series? This would expand the number of teams at state, and allow competition among the larger schools.
Ron McGraw made some statements about this in the September 2011 edition of Scholastic Visions. The basic answer is that the IHSA wants one of its administrators to be there for the Scholastic Bowl finals, but it needs all of its people to be at the basketball finals, so it is convenient to have those in the same place. They get the parts of the PCC they use for Scholastic Bowl "for free" with the basketball contract.mr_basque wrote:Along those lines, help me with the history, why is it that state is in Peoria, at the civic center, why couldn't it be hosted in a high school of some neutral distance or move it around, I am sure there are plenty of schools with great facitlities that could host it for little to no cost compared to the civic center, and then there could be an actual meal for lunch.
Hoping that the pools get changed for your and IMSA's sakes.Riot In Cell Block Nine wrote: On another note, are these pools finalized, then? Is there any possibility that they'll be changed, like they were last year?
Thanks. If IMSA just has the first five rows or so of our section, we should be good, so the A-team can use the rest of our section past that.Riot In Cell Block Nine wrote: But, yeah, I will relay the message.
I was told by someone who would know (Coach Grant, perhaps) that these pools were final when they were originally posted.Riot In Cell Block Nine wrote:On another note, are these pools finalized, then? Is there any possibility that they'll be changed, like they were last year?
Yeah, good luck with that. We hosted Warren in the sectional this past week and they were amazing (note: I'm also the PA announcer for Barrington boys' basketball). On the other hand, if student section spirit means anything, Auburn could get an edge as Warren's student section was incredibly weak both nights (between 125-150 each night) for a team ranked so high. And DeKalb is an even longer trip from Gurnee.Riot In Cell Block Nine wrote: Yeah, I'm actually pretty sure the A-Team will be there. If Auburn basketball wins on Tuesday night (unlikely) and advances to the state finals, I'm pretty sure the contingent will be even larger.
Good luck to everyone at State on Friday and a shout out to my fellow Rockfordians, Go Auburn Knights!Riot In Cell Block Nine wrote:There's a possibility, actually. Our principal is appealing for it.