OCTAVIAN - A Classics Tournament

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This is a preliminary announcement for OCTAVIAN (Oli's Classical Tournament About Various Interesting Ancient Nuggets)

This will be a tossup-only tournament written by me. I plan currently on 12 packets of 24 tossups, power-marked, of about 8-9 lines. I aim for the answerlines to be about 1/2 that could come up at Regular, 1/4 at Nats, 1/4 at Opens.
The distribution as currently planned (and I expect there may well be alterations to this once I have finished plotting out all the answerlines)

History 15 - subdivided (again, provisionally):
1 Pre-800BC
2 Archaic (800-480BC)
2 Classical (480-323BC)
2 Hellenistic (323-146BC)
2 Roman Republic (~300 to 31BC)
2 Principate (31BC to AD 284)
2 Dominate (284-565)

3 Greek Literature
3 Roman Literature
2 RMPSS
2 Visual Fine Arts
1 Linguistics/Epigraphy/Paleography and similar.

Notes on the above - the above temporal boundaries will not be hard and fast, such as the cross-over between the Hellenistic and the Roman Republic. There will of course be common link tossups on names, tossups on places that cover broader swathes of time and so on.
Along with the split by period, I will also be attempting to ensure a reasonably broad range of geographic distribution and not just Greco-Roman, though often in relation to one of the two cultures. There will be both specifically archaeological tossups, as well as material clues included in the other history where feasible.
Literature and the RMPSS distro obviously have some major cross-over - my aim is for some myths that come up in the literature to be clued closely from the texts (i.e. important lines that character says in the tragedy for example, while others will be more narrative based "Heracles wiped out another endangered species in this mythical land" etc). Similarly I will treat works such as Plato's dialogues as philosophy or as literature. This will be somewhat experimental, and I am very interested to see how this plays.
VFA will include Sculpture, Architecture, Pottery, Mosaics, Painting etc (if any distro gets expanded to the detriment of any other, this is probably the most likely)
The final 1 per packet will cover everything from important inscriptions and papyri, through the development of alphabets, to vowel changes.

I have currently filled out about half the preliminary answerlines, and I do not foresee much difficulty in doing the rest. In terms of writing and completion date, once I become unemployed come May 4th/5th, I will then have several weeks without much else to distract me. Once I have got into the swing (or not) or writing, I hope I will be able to give a reasonable indication of when I will finish the set, but I like to believe at the moment it would be ready before the end of June.
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I'd be really interested in getting no questions correct on this set, especially if there's an online mirror since I probably won't be at any summer opens.
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!!!!!!
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jasonzhou wrote:!!!!!!
Same here.
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Charbroil wrote:
jasonzhou wrote:!!!!!!
Same here.
What they said.
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Periplus of the Erythraean Sea wrote:
Charbroil wrote:
jasonzhou wrote:!!!!!!
Same here.
What they said.
I'll keep the quote chain going, just to heap on the encouragement.
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I'd play this, assuming there were some mirror in the United States.
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Xochicuicatl Cuecuechtli wrote:I'd be really interested in getting no questions correct on this set, especially if there's an online mirror since I probably won't be at any summer opens.
What Eric said. A few of my non-board-reading teammates as well.
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Update: this is ~75% written, of which 50% I'm mostly happy with, and the other 25% needs bashing around into decent shape still. I'm also currently in Greece, and have therefore picked up various new ideas/clues. Thus I think this tournament will probably be ready to play by August.

In the meantime, have a pig-shaped pot
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I'd be very interested in playing even though the classics are like the weakest component of my history game
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I heard this is going to be held at VCU? Any chance of an online mirror at some point?

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Apologies to those who hoped to be playing this tournament this weekend, but it's not going to be finished to the standard I would like by then. I had hoped to use this week to finish it up and apply necessary polish, but events have got in the way.
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Are you saying you are canceling this weekend's mirrors?
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armitage wrote:Are you saying you are canceling this weekend's mirrors?
Sorry if this was not clear, but yes. This week was meant to be spent finishing up, but family has intervened.
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Hey, just wondering what the status of this is? We're looking for side events to mirror on EFT Sunday (Oct. 15) and would like to do this if it'll be ready by that time.
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Similarly, I'd love to play this after WAO II
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Hate to nag, but is there any idea of when/if this will be done and where it will be played? Would love to give it a go.
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kearnm7 wrote:Hate to nag, but is there any idea of when/if this will be done and where it will be played? Would love to give it a go.
Bump on this as well, I've gotten a few requests to run this at the Boston summer event.
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UlyssesInvictus wrote:
kearnm7 wrote:Hate to nag, but is there any idea of when/if this will be done and where it will be played? Would love to give it a go.
Bump on this as well, I've gotten a few requests to run this at the Boston summer event.
The aim is to have it done by the end of June
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Considering that it has already been played at one site (VCU), do you think that there will be an online mirror of this in the near future? I know that I would love to give this tournament a shot, but, like so many others, can’t attend an actual mirror site.

Thank you,
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People should note this tournament is super hard.
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theclassicsguy wrote:Considering that it has already been played at one site (VCU), do you think that there will be an online mirror of this in the near future? I know that I would love to give this tournament a shot, but, like so many others, can’t attend an actual mirror site.

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Will look at running one in September, once my dissertation is done
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I suppose I would be willing to help run such a thing, since I have already seen the set and know how to pronounce most things.
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Is there any chance that this set will get posted soon?
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theclassicsguy wrote: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:37 am Is there any chance that this set will get posted soon?
There will, hopefully, be a mirror of it in the UK after OOT, after which I hope to hold an online mirror on Discord - apologies for the wait, life has been quite hectic in recent months.
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