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Joni Mitchell: 1/16/9 in 84 rooms
empress: 0/14/14 in 84 rooms
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Can we see conversion stats for the tossups on Chile (round 2), the Toronto Raptors (round 4), Cyrus the Great (round 4), Fort Ticonderoga (round 6), the Kurds (round 7), Huawei (round 22), and the Red Sea (round 22)? I'm also interested in seeing which tossups were the most powered, least powered (or not powered at all), least converted, and most negged, as well as which bonuses had the highest conversion rate, lowest conversion rate, most 30s, and most 0s. (Sorry if this is a lot to ask for!)

I'd also like to see the text of the Los Angeles tossup (round 23). Somehow my team managed to neg it, and I want to see the clues again.
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Could I see both the text and the stats for the tossup on Richard Cory
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ansonberns wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:01 am Could I see both the text and the stats for the tossup on Richard Cory
This is the only Richard Cory text you'll ever need
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Could I see the conversion stats for the Bulwer-Lytton question (Rd. 10)?
I, too, am curious about most and least converted tossups (I'd guess Bulwer-Lytton would be somewhere near the least-converted end of the spectrum).
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joshxu wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:16 pm Can we see conversion stats for the tossups on Chile (round 2), the Toronto Raptors (round 4), Cyrus the Great (round 4), Fort Ticonderoga (round 6), the Kurds (round 7), Huawei (round 22), and the Red Sea (round 22)? ...

I'd also like to see the text of the Los Angeles tossup (round 23). Somehow my team managed to neg it, and I want to see the clues again.
Chile: 27/46/18 in 77 rooms
Raptors: 42/40/2 in 83 rooms
Cyrus: 33/35/8 in 77 rooms
Ticonderoga: 34/48/9 in 84 rooms
Kurds: 56/20/1 in 79 rooms
Huawei: 45/3/0 in 48 rooms
Red Sea: 32/9/8 in 42 rooms
2019 HSNCT round 23 wrote:This city's main airport includes architect Paul Williams's UFO-shaped Theme Building. The Lovell House and Strathmore Apartments are among this city's numerous buildings by architect Richard Neutra. The exterior panels of a building in this city had to be sanded after their (*) reflection caused nearby sidewalks to heat to over 140 degrees. For 10 points—name this city where Frank Gehry designed Walt Disney Concert Hall.
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ansonberns wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:01 am Could I see both the text and the stats for the tossup on Richard Cory
2019 HSNCT round 9 wrote:A 1976 A. R. Gurney play examines the circumstances leading to this person's suicide. A song titled for this man notes "I work in his factory, and I curse the life I'm living." Simon & Garfunkel sang "I wish I could be" this man, who in an 1897 (*) poem is described as "a gentleman from sole to crown." For 10 points--name this man who went home one night and "put a bullet through his head" in an Edwin Arlington Robinson poem.
(this was a miscellaneous tossup, not literature)

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Vembanad wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:10 am Could I see the conversion stats for the Bulwer-Lytton question (Rd. 10)?
I, too, am curious about most and least converted tossups (I'd guess Bulwer-Lytton would be somewhere near the least-converted end of the spectrum).
0/4/1 in 5 rooms (this was tossup 24 of round 10, so very little data)
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joshxu wrote: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:16 pmI'm also interested in seeing which tossups were the most powered, least powered (or not powered at all), least converted, and most negged, as well as which bonuses had the highest conversion rate, lowest conversion rate, most 30s, and most 0s. (Sorry if this is a lot to ask for!)
minimum 70 rooms:

most powered:

Korean DMZ
prime minister of Australia
Kurds
New Orleans
black sails
Singapore
U.S.-Mexico border

(that's everything with a power rate greater than 60%)

"Least-powered" isn't really useful since there are a bunch of tossups with low power rates (nine tossups with no powers at all, 16 more with only one power across the whole tournament, and so forth). Most of these are tossups with reasonable overall conversion stats (so the issue comes down to "we wrote a leadin clue that was too hard and/or placed a power mark that was stingier than average by 1-2 clues").

Least-converted:

Empress
The Gifted
Joni Mitchell
Philoctetes
Ngugi
The Lower Depths
The Pardoner
Konstantin Stanislavski
Frances McDormand
The Ten Thousand (from Xenophon)
Gerard Manley Hopkins
Gian Carlo Menotti

(that's everything under 40% conversion)

Top 5 for minus-fives:

molting
electron pairs
calcite
tangent function
mercury (the element, with early clues about mining history)
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Minimum 70 rooms:

highest conversion:

Germany/Angela Merkel/Bavaria
Gremlins/after midnight/PG-13
Impossible Burger/FDA/gluten
Afrikaans/Ethiopia/Equatorial Guinea
tai chi/Avatar: The Last Airbender/Ming Dynasty
Hong Kong/UK/umbrella protests

(those were the only six bonuses above 23 ppb)

lowest conversion:

Algonquin Round Table/George S. Kaufman/Dorothy Parker
hero with a thousand faces/monomyth/initiation
Firefly/The Slants/wine
Katharine Hepburn/Spencer Tracy/Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Philosophical Investigations/Wittgenstein/certainty
Hiro Protagonist/Arthur C. Clarke/Snow Crash

(and those were the only six under 7 ppb)
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Important Bird Area wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:53 am Top 5 for minus-fives:

molting
electron pairs
calcite
tangent function
mercury (the element, with early clues about mining history)
Would you be able to post the conversion stats and text of the electron pairs question? I distinctly remember at least one clue that pointed to electrons just as equally if not more to electron pairs, and thanks to NAQT correctness guidelines, the tossup was straight up negbait.
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Banned Tiny Toon Adventures Episode wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:15 pm Would you be able to post the conversion stats and text of the electron pairs question? I distinctly remember at least one clue that pointed to electrons just as equally if not more to electron pairs, and thanks to NAQT correctness guidelines, the tossup was straight up negbait.
2019 HSNCT round 6 wrote:The number of these things is indicated by a subscript below the letter E in AXE notation. A double-headed arrow shows how these specific things flow away from nucleophiles in reaction mechanisms. (*) Gilbert Lewis defined these things, and subsequently defined acids and bases as "donors" and "acceptors" of them. Dots are used to depict "lone" examples of—for 10 points—what groups of two negatively charged particles?

answer: electron pairs (accept lone pairs; prompt on "pair" by asking "a pair of what objects?"; do not accept or prompt on "electron(s)")
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what were the conversion stats for Ngugi and Ninja questions?
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Ngugi: 6/13/12 in 71 rooms
ninjas: 0/14/1 in 14 rooms
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Can I see conversion stats for the Magicians tossup?
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0/12/9 in 24 rooms.
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If I remember correctly, there was a tossup which clued the fact that Canal Street in New York is a center of counterfeiting-- could I see it? I found it amusing.
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2019 HSNCT round 9 wrote:Craig Crosby founded a "report" named for this activity, many results of which are sold on Canal Street in Manhattan. The economy of Putian is driven by this activity involving sneakers. Some 80% of the results of this activity found by U.S. Customs originate in (*) China, where its common targets include iPhones and handbags. For 10 points—name this practice of making unauthorized, inferior versions of brand-name products.

answer: counterfeiting products (or counterfeit goods; accept making knockoff(s) (or knocking off) or fake(s) (or faking) or bootleg(s) (or bootleging) goods or products; accept The Counterfeit Report; accept answers that mention a specific type of good, such as counterfeit sneakers or knockoff handbags)
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What were the stats for the Rimbaud, polymerization, the Moonstone, Neptune, ionic compound, and derivative with respect to time tossups in playoffs?
Also, what was the conversion rates for the tokamak/plasma/solenoid bonus in the last prelim round?
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angrybird wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:58 pm derivative with respect to time
While I really appreciate the verbose prompt instructions of "with respect to what", this tossup made the major oversight of not accepting "differentiation" as an alternative to "derivative". This should be automatic.
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angrybird wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:58 pm What were the stats for the Rimbaud, polymerization, the Moonstone, Neptune, ionic compound, and derivative with respect to time tossups in playoffs?
Also, what was the conversion rates for the tokamak/plasma/solenoid bonus in the last prelim round?
Thanks.
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Neptune: 18/6/1 in 24 rooms
ionic compound: 3/21/12 in 24 rooms
time derivative: 6/65/41 in 84 rooms

(note that most of these were early in the playoffs, so it's not necessarily a good idea to generalize these conversion stats to the entire HSNCT field)
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CPiGuy wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:33 pm
angrybird wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:58 pm derivative with respect to time
While I really appreciate the verbose prompt instructions of "with respect to what", this tossup made the major oversight of not accepting "differentiation" as an alternative to "derivative".
This was corrected prior to Toronto's mirror of the set.
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Can I see the tossup on A Separate Peace and the conversion stats of The Age of Innocence and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
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worr72 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:14 pm Can I see the tossup on A Separate Peace and the conversion stats of The Age of Innocence and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
2019 HSNCT round 15 wrote:Characters in this novel receive a distressing telegram that begins "I have escaped and need help. I am at Christmas location." The pompous Cliff Quackenbush annoys this novel's protagonist, who competes academically with Chet Douglass and joins his classmates in playing (*) "blitzball." In this novel, Brinker forces Leper to "testify" at a "midnight trial." Gene and Finny appear in—for 10 points—what novel by John Knowles?
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I'm a bit late but can I get conversion stats on Karl Popper, teapots, Pale Fire, and F (music key)?
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Popper: 3/39/11 in 83 rooms
teapots: 38/41/10 in 84 rooms
Pale Fire: 4/60/12 in 84 room
F: 22/55/39 in 84 rooms
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I'm also quite late but could I please see the conversion stats on the tossup about "Azimuthal Quantum Number" from round 25?
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biofanat wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:20 am I'm also quite late but could I please see the conversion stats on the tossup about "Azimuthal Quantum Number" from round 25?
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Could I see conversion stats on the Washington DC/Foggy Bottom/Watergate bonus? I am specifically interested in the conversion on the Foggy Bottom bonus, since I've never heard Foggy Bottom used to refer to the State Department. Thanks!
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Curious Homunculus wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:08 pm Could I see conversion stats on the Washington DC/Foggy Bottom/Watergate bonus? I am specifically interested in the conversion on the Foggy Bottom bonus, since I've never heard Foggy Bottom used to refer to the State Department. Thanks!
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Could I see conversion stats for the tossups on Petticoat affair (R1), Gorbachev (R2), Atlanta (R5), and murder of John Lennon (R5)?
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jaguar19 wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:31 am Could I see conversion stats for the tossups on Petticoat affair (R1), Gorbachev (R2), Atlanta (R5), and murder of John Lennon (R5)?
Petticoat affair: 5/62/25 in 83 rooms
Gorbachev: 25/56/13 in 83 rooms
Atlanta: 19/62/13 in 84 rooms
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Could I see the conversion stats on Khashoggi, the Presidency, clowns, Danzig, and counterfeiting?
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Pedro/HCHS wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:02 pm Could I see the conversion stats on Khashoggi, the Presidency, clowns, Danzig, and counterfeiting?
Khashoggi: 47/30/4 in 83 rooms
presidency: 31/50/10 in 83 rooms
clowns: 1/74/21 in 75 rooms
Danzig: 46/31/14 in 84 rooms
counterfeiting: 25/55/25 in 83 rooms
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Could I see the tossup (I'm pretty sure it was from Round 8) on the Journey Around the World in 80 Days?
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K@b00m wrote: Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:55 am Could I see the tossup (I'm pretty sure it was from Round 8) on the Journey Around the World in 80 Days?
2019 HSNCT round 8 wrote:The leader of this endeavor was mistaken for James Strand shortly after completing it. A participant in this journey induced mutiny among the crew of the Henrietta to change its destination. The princess Aouda was rescued during this trip undertaken following a bet with London's (*) Reform Club. The valet Jean Passepartout is hired by a man taking—for 10 points—what nearly three-month journey in a Jules Verne novel?

answer: Phileas Fogg's trip around the world (accept going Around the World in Eighty Days or other answers describing the trip or journey taken by Phileas Fogg; prompt on "going around the world" or "circumnavigation" or similar answers that do not mention either "Phileas Fogg" or "80 days")
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Could I see the Battle of Puebla TU (Round either 4 or 5) as well as Tossup 22/23 from Round 12 (I can't remember which one it is)...
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K@b00m wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:13 pm Could I see the Battle of Puebla TU (Round either 4 or 5) as well as Tossup 22/23 from Round 12 (I can't remember which one it is)...
2019 HSNCT round 5 wrote:Before this battle, the winning commander told his generals they must keep a "force of six thousand" from "dominating" a "country of eight million." Miguel Negrete led the first defensive effort in this battle, which took place one week after a clash at Acultzingo. (*) French forces under Charles de Lorencez were defeated by the army of Ignacio Zaragoza in—for 10 points—what 1862 Mexican victory, commemorated on Cinco de Mayo?
The tossups in those spots in round 12 are "The Great Wave off Kanagawa" and "A Passage to India"; let me know which you're interested in seeing the text of.
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It was the Passage to India one, now I recall. Something Indian I remember...
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2019 HSNCT round 12 wrote:A character in this novel imagines dedicating his tomb to "those who have secretly understood my heart" after a flat tire delays his bicycle trip to Major Callendar's house. That character in this novel is arrested when he is found with a pair of broken glasses that he picked up during a trip to the (*) Marabar Caves. Adela Quested accuses Dr. Aziz of sexual assault in—for 10 points—what E. M. Forster novel set in Asia?
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Could I see the Cat on a Hot Tin Roof tossup from Round 25? Also conversion stats for that

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2019 HSNCT round 25 wrote:Several characters in this play speak the line "Wouldn't it be funny if that was true?" A character in this play complains about the "powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity" in a room. A patriarch in this play learns that a visit to the Oschner Clinic revealed not a (*) spastic colon, but cancer. Maggie tries to secure an inheritance from Big Daddy Pollitt in—for 10 points—what play by Tennessee Williams?
12/3/3 in 15 rooms (note that this was round 25, so all playoff teams)
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I don't know which round, but could I see the Village People question? And stats for that?
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K@b00m wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:48 am I don't know which round, but could I see the Village People question? And stats for that?
2019 HSNCT round 13 wrote:This musical group was the subject of the first winner of the Golden Raspberry for Worst Picture, Can't Stop the Music. In 2012 its lead singer Victor Willis won royalties from its last top-10 hit, which claims "you can (*) sail the seven seas." Its biggest hit opens "young man, there's no need to feel down." For 10 points—what disco group behind "In the Navy" and "Y.M.C.A." wore cowboy, Native American, and other costumes?
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Just out of curiosity, when NAQT writes HSNCT questions, what is the target power/ten/neg ratio supposed to look like? If there is an ideal ration, is it more important that there's a level of consistency when it comes to the conversion for each question or is it more a matter of making sure the entire set averages out to that goal?
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