2022-2023 End of Season Player Poll

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Welcome to this year's end-of-season poll, run by myself and Ganon Evans! In contrast to the previous few years, there will be several types of polls that will be run this year. We'll be having the traditional overall top players poll as well as top players in each category, but we will also be including several more similar to the 2018-19 Players Choice Awards. These include the best 4th scorer of the year, the best newcomer of the year, the best set of the year, and more! For these awards, there will be two rounds of voting: one in which people nominate people/sets/answers, and then a second round of voting. Descriptions of what constitute each of these awards are included in the linked form. Of course, all of these polls are completely optional, so if you would like to fill out one of the polls but not the others, that is totally fine.

We'll be using this form for ballots, which will be closing on May 21. For the overall player and category polls, we will only be considering players who played either major nationals (ICT or ACF Nationals). Feel free to use this thread to provide analysis or your own opinions about who you think deserves to be ranked (make sure to keep it civil and nice, of course!). If you'd like to shout-out players who you may not consider ranking or for other amazing contributions to Quiz Bowl, I would recommend using this thread to do so. Thank you for your forthcoming input!
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Cracked Gamer Nathan Zhang the goated 4th scorer with the X/Y/0 scoreline at ICT + Nats. vote for him
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Due to a recent ballot that just came in, I realized that it was never specified the exact requirements for people in consideration for the polls. I've updated the original post to clarify as well, but we will only be considering players in the overall and category polls who played either nationals this year. You can edit your responses to the form accordingly.
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I'll beat a dead horse and say vote for Itamar, though this time I don't think folks will need as much convincing.
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The Chard Chrain has pulled into the station and now it's Hutto Richard Time. Hope you like beet cultivars, because chard is cooking. The strength of the former Lynbrook scibowl superstar. And his music and literature seemed to match his science in both speed and precision. The strongest and the fastest, could they truly be the same person? He is the one who realized this miracle!
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dni wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:11 am The Chard Chrain has pulled into the station and now it's Hutto Richard Time. Hope you like beet cultivars, because chard is cooking. The strength of the former Lynbrook scibowl superstar. And his music and literature seemed to match his science in both speed and precision. The strongest and the fastest, could they truly be the same person? He is the one who realized this miracle!
seconded. vote for Richard as newcomer of the year.
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elyne road wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:18 pm seconded. vote for Richard as newcomer of the year.
Unfortunately, my unfortunate tenure of quizbowl started last year, so I’m not exactly eligible for a newcomer award. Who you should vote for Newcomer of the Year: The top scorers on the Waterloo ICT team definitely deserve consideration; their run was insane for them not playing organized trivia before this year. It’s between them and Forrest Weintraub, who routinely top-scored Columbia B at 3.5-dot opens and 4-dot nationals this year. Ridiculous for their first year in quizbowl.

The material to follow is pretty similar to my other post in the Player Appreciation thread, so apologies for that.

Overall poll votes from Cornell:

Jonathan Tran, Geoffrey Chen, and Raymond Wang are all top 15 this year in my opinion, with some nonzero subset of them falling within the top 10: their performances on the ICT-winning team and the 3rd place Nats team speak for themselves. Nathan Zhang is certainly top 30 and possibly top 25, and is my pick for the 4th scorer of the year—as Geoffrey eloquently said, he had a Cracked Gamer performance at ICT and Nats.

Subject poll votes from Cornell:

Jonathan #1 history, Geoffrey #1 science and ranked for Thought. Raymond should be top 10 lit (not too sure how about his placement relative to other top lit players). I’d argue that Raymond should be top 10 vfa and top 5 afa this year; he tells me that he only dropped 2 music questions in all of top bracket, which deserves a top 5 ranking for sure. Nathan should be ranked for top 15 in literature and top 10 in vfa as well, he clearly scored enough points in those categories to be on par with Raymond and other top specialists.

Dan Ni was quite sad when he wasn’t ranked in science last year. Please rank him this year in science, where he has an argument for slotting just inside the top 5, but is certainly top 10. Geoffrey Wu doesn’t exactly go to Cornell, but he basically does, and is someone else to take note of when filling out the 10-15 spots on the science poll.

Other people you should vote for:

Amogh Kulkarni’s tremendous improvement paved the way for Chicago B’s top bracket finish at ACF Nationals. He had incredible support, but this is also a testament to his own generalist ability. Amogh probably hovers somewhere around the top 20, or just below it. Subject-wise, Amogh should be ranked for lit (where he got all of Chicago B’s points there) and possibly history, which he seems to have scored similarly to Vivek on at Nats. He also deserves consideration on RMPSS, though he’s shadowed by someone very, very good at those categories. Also probably the strongest MIP candidate.

Andrew Zeng should be ranked in the top 30 general poll: his record-breaking ICT D2 numbers speak for themself there. Andrew scores in virtually every category, but he’s very strong at literature, history, and fine arts. Andrew provided nontrivial scoring on a top-bracket Stanford team filled with immensely strong players; he deserves a ranking on the history ballot.

Both Aum Mundhe and Benjamin Chapman are incredible generalists who may not make it onto the overall poll this year, but can easily crack it next year. Ben could also be considered for Most Improved with his seamless transition from specialist to generalist this year. Watch out for them both.

Other notes:

MattBo is probably top 5 afa: his buzzes in that category in the play-in and finals were superb. Matt Jackson also effortlessly 30’d a Seven Last Words of Christ bonus in the finals, which was quite impressive; maybe he deserves consideration there as well. Overall, the ranking of music specialists this year is very difficult, as there are well more than 10 incredible music players. Surefire candidates for my top 10 would be Karan, Max, Matt B, Raymond; from there, too many good players exist (e.g. Clark, Jacob, Vincent, Chris, Natan, Tracy, Kevin from Claremont, Michael from Brown, etc.) that it’s really hard to come up with an objective ranking. Maybe buzzpoints can help elucidate this.
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For the past five years, people have wondered/argued about Itamar Naveh-Benjamin, who could only make it to 1-2 regional tournaments a year and missed many nationals on account of “learning to save lives at medical school during a global pandemic” or some trifle like that. Well, wonder no more: he Really Is That Good, and Has Been This Whole Time. If you have Itamar ranked below, say, 3rd, you are not a serious person. And there are compelling arguments for ranking him 1st — not since Peak Eric Mukherjee almost a decade ago has a single person unified a top-level science specialty (in Itamar’s case, bio with a side of chem) with wide-ranging generalism. And Itamar’s generalism extends more widely than Peak Eric’s did.

Tracy Mirkin has been putting up utterly ridiculous stats all year, and is definitely a top-5 individual player at this point.

Despite losing the entire regular season to lawl school, Matthew Lehmann put up absolutely scary numbers at both ICT and Nats, pulling away from longtime good-at-quizbowl person Charles Hang to become the clear leader of a team in the pivotal “could beat anyone in the top bracket” category. His level of "memory that this clue came up in an old packet once or twice" is unmatched in our era. He will likely hover around the end of my top 5 and should be at minimum in your top 10.

In my mind, the MVP of 2023 ACF Nationals was Arya Karthik. Arya stepped up in a big way to keep GT on track when unexpected travel issues left them with a three-person team for most of the prelims, and stayed winning next to last year’s top individual scorer en route to the title. Their ability to sink insane early buzzes and grind out late-game gets on tough answer lines resulted in the best performance by a first-year at Nats since… I dunno, 2011?
My one concern about determining where to rank Arya is that they tend to be quite high-neg when in “team leader” mode, as they were at UG Nats and ICT — and that largely went away when Matt B. arrived. I look forward to seeing what heights Arya will scale to as they get more confident in their abilities and more acclimated to high-difficulty tournaments. It won’t be pretty for the rest of you.

Most of the things I said about Arya (save for not being a first-year) also apply to Hari Parameswaran, who scored a little above Arya sometimes and a little below at other times while the two of them played alongside each other. Hari clearly Actually Knows history to an absurd degree. Of the two, I'm inclined to rank Hari a little higher this year since his performances were a bit more consistent / a bit less volatile. But there are arguments either way, and both are Really :capybara: ing Good and should be at lowest around the middle of your ballot.

Every member of Cornell A is absolutely cracked at their specialty area. It’s often tough to balance dedicated specialists against generalists in these polls, but you simply must not submit your ballot until it has all of Geoffrey Chen, Jonathan Tran, and Raymond Wang on it. These players are all pushing the bounds of the possible in their respective specialty areas. It is especially insane to me that Nathan Zhang didn’t neg once, while putting up 20+ points per game as fourth scorer, at both ICT and Nats. I’ve played with and against some icily efficient players over a long stretch of time, but I’ve never seen anything like this before. There is simply no other contender for Fourth Scorer of the Year, and any ballot that presents any other contender should be tossed.

We didn’t get to see as much of Natan Holtzman and Tim Morrison this year as we hoped — they were sadly unable to make it to ICT to defend their title, ceding it to a different geographically isolated school whose mascot is a shade of red -- but each of them performed ably at Nats, and shorthanded Stanford lineups at various events through the year show that each of them has Still Got It.

Adam Fine. The way this guy pulls answers from the void with seemingly nothing to go on, while absolutely sure he's wrong, only to be correct anyway, is both awe-inspiring and quite unnerving to play alongside. His pink tank top reading "#2 Science Player" is a bit reductive; forget not that he's also quite good at auditory fine arts and mythology, and occasionally zapped some key sports at ICT.

The fact that Amogh Kulkarni (Chicago B) has three more years of undergrad eligibility should terrify you. Practicing against (and losing to) him this year has kept me sharp and forced me to adjust to a decade of "high school stock" that I didn't know I missed. I hope that any hesitation he may have about being competitive at higher difficulties is now cleared away, given his strong leading performances at UG Nats and in the prelims of Nats proper. (Also, if you’re putting together any sort of writing/editing team, Amogh should be among the first people you call. He doesn't want you to know this, but above the C++ level he's also quite good at writing Nats/CO-level tossups that are creative and well-constructed.)

Mitch McCullar led an Illinois team with an uncanny ability to pull off upsets and "scarily close ones" all year. Truly scary at Elizabethan drama and pre-modern lit of all kinds, and also just a genial fellow.

Vincent Du came within a hair’s breadth of knocking Cornell out of ACF Nationals. He seems pretty good at the whole “playing quizbowl” thing.

Dr. Grace Liu got hosed out of Nats by travel issues last year, and wasn't able to play every round this year, but is still very good, scaling arbitrarily high on opera and ballet while being quite good at drama and "protein bowl."

You should have Ned Tagtmeier ranked in at least lit (in which he's read a hefty chonk of 20c English poetry) and R/M/P/SS (at which he routinely beats me to things I've written questions and/or essays on). Also, when not playing under some extremely brutal shadow effects his "team leader mode" is quite strong; check out his stats at Winter Closed, C++, and MRNA, dude good

Other people who seem quite good based on numbers and who probably shouldn’t be left off: Alex Schmidt, Caleb Kendrick, Clark Smith, any/everyone on Yale A, Charles Hang, Chris Ray, Chris Sims, Jason Hong, Anson Berns,

….

I will be waiting until the cat stats are posted from Nats (say that again, Eliza Doolittle?) to submit subject ballots, as I'll let those drive my selections pretty heavily. Till then, some entirely unbiased observations:

Vivek Sasse is quite good at science. Despite his knack for buzzing just out of power at CMST and BHSU, he ran the table on it at UG champs and split physics and math roughly 50-50 with Adam Fine at ICT. He also puts up strong numbers in European and world history thanks to a certain podcasting habit, and grinded a ridiculous amount of current events before ICT so I didn't have to, though sadly most of it didn't come up day-of.

John Marvin has gotten some of the sickest philosophy gets I've ever been made aware of, on a basis that is roughly 100% Real and 0% studied for qb purposes. His commitment to the bit of expanding qb's knowledge of what actually matters in South Asian philosophy is very much noted.


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There's probably some more posts coming about What The Numbers Show as the data analytics roll out, but immediately Alex Akridge of Indiana A leapt out to me as having like the 3rd best science stats in the ACF Nats field, with tons of early buzzes in a pretty tough second bracket. I haven't seen Alex being discussed before, and your science ballot is probably Wrong if it doesn't have Alex pretty high up on it.
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Adventure Temple Trail wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 12:07 am There's probably some more posts coming about What The Numbers Show as the data analytics roll out, but immediately Alex Akridge of Indiana A leapt out to me as having like the 3rd best science stats in the ACF Nats field, with tons of early buzzes in a pretty tough second bracket. I haven't seen Alex being discussed before, and your science ballot is probably Wrong if it doesn't have Alex pretty high up on it.
I played CO with Alex last year. Definitely the real deal. Also, Indiana is hella underrated in general. Justin has been putting in work!
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rhn26 wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:01 pm
MattBo is probably top 5 afa: his buzzes in that category in the play-in and finals were superb.
I'm honored by the mention here, since I've always wished I were better at music questions, but unfortunately my interest in the subject way exceeds my knowledge. Those questions in the finals sequence were two of the three music tossups I got across the entire set. I would say I'm a third-tier music player, with players on the Max/Natan/Karan level in Tier 1, and then folks like Clark and Tracy in Tier 2.
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Noted non-American (or so he insists) Gareth Thorlakson had the highest PPG on American History in the Nationals field.
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I am back to talk up my teammates!

Charles is pretty similar in skill to last year, where he ranked 21st which was probably a bit too low in my view, and certainly below where I ranked him. He remains fantastic at history and current events, very good at geography, and he’s capable of buzzing across the rest of the distribution very reliably. He’s particularly good at grabbing anything classical, regardless of the category. Charles had an incredible ICT, where he finished in the top 25 of overall scorers (Despite being in the top bracket) and 14th in powers. He also kept his negs extremely under control. At nats we all negged a fair bit more, but he remained an incredibly reliable second scorer, and we couldn’t have placed nearly as high without him. I shadow him by negging and getting lots of history, and I generally cover up a fair bit of his broad generalism, which also cuts into his PPG. Having someone capable of buzzing in most categories is extremely (I’d say underratedly) helpful, and I’ll certainly factor that into my rankings. As for the actual ranking, I think he belongs on the high end of the 15th-20th range, and I’ll probably slot him in at 15th or 16th. Charles should be somewhere from 4-10 in your history ballot, and I’d say he’s probably best at 6th or 7th. He should also be near the top of your Other ballot. He got the most amount of current events tossups while playing in the top bracket, and tied for most overall, and he also was great at the category at ICT. He’s a great (but probably not elite) geography player as well, so he doesn’t have a weakness in Other.

Annabelle deserves consideration near the bottom of your ballot. She, like Charles, is hurt by me both getting tossups and racking up depressing amounts of negs in her categories. She’s fantastic at arts, with very good coverage across all 3/3, and she’s probably the best myth player in the country in my view. She’s also very good at buzzing in on books that she’s read (which is a lot, and very complimentary to my knowledge base!) and at buzzing on clues about books that are on her bookshelf but she hasn’t gotten to yet. She’s probably top 5-6 in belief, as she’s very strong at religion as well, particularly Eastern religions, and more than anyone she is a true “belief” specialist as she will destroy any religion tossup if it even sounds like a myth tossup. Annabelle also should probably be near the bottom part of your top 10, probably 8-10, on both sides of the arts divide. Her well roundedness and ability to get insane buzzes in both (She firstlined Xenakis at nats!) are extremely impressive.

Paul should be considered in the 8-12 part of your science ballot. He’s very strong at biochem and solid across the rest of the distribution. Outside of the top science players, he has some of the strongest coverage. He also gets shadowed substantially, as me, Charles, and Annabelle will all grab things in science, and Annabelle in particular can grab some medical content which he’d be favored against pretty much anyone else. He’s also a great trash player, a fantastic teammate, and an underrated generalist, grabbing a game winning buzz on a literature tossup against Florida!

Sadly my refusal to play quiz bowl robbed me of the chance to see any of the B team play outside of practice. With that being said, Vedul and June both merit consideration. June had a very strong ACF Nationals, finishing in the top 20 of science scoring despite being shadowed by Neal (another future member of the WashU med school squad), and Vedul. June should probably be somewhere on your science ballot.

Finally, Vedul is certainly one of the most impressive freshmen I’ve seen. His breadth, and the depth to which it scales, is honestly incredible. He certainly merits consideration for the bottom part of your top 30, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was much higher next year.

Of course, all of the above people (and the rest of the WashU team in general) are delightful to be around and provide a very welcoming environment. I’m excited to play one more year with them all, and they will remain my friends even after I leave!
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There's just over a week left to fill out your ballots, so make sure to get them in soon!
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I'll post a bit about my team as well.

First of all, like I said last year, and which is even more true this year as we've all improved, I believe that all members of Yale A should be ranked. We all overlap into each other's categories substantially, and we're the deepest team in the country when it comes to generalism and the top bracket team with the most balanced scoring within categories. Please do take that into account for both category and overall rankings when looking at our category stats.

As I said last year, but which bears repeating, with me absent last year, Arthur was the lead scorer of Yale at 2021 Nats in the 9 games he played. Comparing last year's team to this year's, he has the largest shadow effect while playing with me, which makes sense due to both of us doing much of our buzzing on history. Arthur is an excellent player across literature, history, arts, thought, and what I like to call "modern academia"; he's the one we turn to whenever some hard modern humanities content comes up, which is critical at Nats. Rank him somewhere in the top 20.

Michal has quietly become one of the best religion and VFA/OFA players in the country, and his CS and opera dominance never stops. He's also able to get a lot of literature and European history. Of the four of us, Michal definitely has the best unique Nats-depth knowledge and thus scales up as well as any player; if anything, he plays better on Nats difficulty than regular difficulty. He narrowly led our team in scoring in prelims, and he should also be ranked somewhere in the top 20. Rank him for beliefs and VFA.

Daniel Sheinberg remains the best literature player in the region while putting up amazing buzzes on biochem. He's also an underrated generalist on pretty much everything else. What more needs to be said? Rank him high, as high as you can, both overall and in both literature and science. You should also rank him for fourth scorer of the year for his ACF Nats prelims performance (this is obviously a joke, but it again goes to show how packet and opponent dependent our entire team's individual scoring is).

I'm not going to make any particular argument for or against myself, but I will say that despite being primarily a history/geo/AFA player, I'm better at science than is often given credit. I had a rough time on the AFA tossups at nats, with most of the things in my pockets being negged by me or negged by the other team, so maybe I'm actually more of a science player than an AFA player (see the stats from the UG qualifier for how I do on science bonuses without the rest of the team). My incorrect science buzzes at Nats were more unfortunate than a sign of inefficiency, and it's also worth noting that I was the only member of Yale A to get a majority of our team's tossups in any 3/3 or 4/4 category, doing so in history.
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I was asked to post about Itamar Naveh-Benjamin. Itamar is the best myth player I have ever seen, especially Norse and Greek myth. He's the best VFA player I have ever seen. He first-lined both Cambyses II and Belvedere Torso at ICT off of painting knowledge. He's possibly the best player in the country at medicine-adjacent knowledge (I haven't seen enough of the other MD students in quizbowl to compare, though), but he is not strong at plant biology or evo/eco. He's amazing at astronomy and literature. He is really good at philosophy and the rest of the FA distro.
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DavidB256 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:46 am Belvedere Torso at ICT off of painting knowledge.
As I recall the Cambyses buzz was a second line and he 10d this but yeah he good
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Adventure Temple Trail wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:49 pm
DavidB256 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:46 am Belvedere Torso at ICT off of painting knowledge.
As I recall the Cambyses thing was a second line and he 10d this but yeah he good
I'm like 95% sure he buzzed in power on this tossup
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The poll will be closing at 11:59 PM central time on May 21, so there's just about a day left to submit your ballots!
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Here are some late, potentially actionable suggestions complete with bolded names intended to influence you into thinking like me:

- I believe fourth overall is the correct spot for me, under an elder and a pair of sages. Consider ranking me around some low number for history and lit and around some much (much) higher number for science (if you're feeling nice).

- I'm ranking myself second in VFA, behind Itamar, whose true talents remain arcane to me as I believe we've played each other one time ever (but his SHEIKH-sourced knowledge of the Butt Report reverberates in my memories of 2018 Nats).

- While I enjoy filling out Tier 2 of music players along with Clark, I was pretty ass at this subcat at Nats, and even disregarding that performance, there are definitely more than ten other quizbowlers that have me beat there. Don't vote for me.

- You should, however, vote for me in the second half of your Belief bracket, somewhere under my teammate Leah Honsinger, who consistently shocks and awes with her magnificent buzzes. She also has only negged more than two times at a tournament twice since starting quizbowl in January 2017, which itself should inspire myths and perhaps the formation of a religion. The illustrious Qingyu Zhang should also be considered here.

- You could vote for me in Other, I'm somewhat good at OAc and Geo (Bahia is really close to Pernambuco). As for CE, I cite this spurious post by Jakob Myers from 2019. Imagine where I've gone since then!

- You should probably consider voting for Leo Law near the end of your overall poll. He's heavily shadowed by me in every category he buzzes in, and he's a proven solid generalist at most levels.

Now some brief stuff about people who aren't me or from Florida.

- John Marvin will be ranked highly on my thought list.

- Wenying Wu seems really good at lit in light of the shadowing from other Torontonians.

- Sure, we have all these lovely nat cat stats, but if you're still scratching your head over some history spots from 13-15, why not rank any of the amazing history players that Florida offers (I lied, by the way)? The insatiable Biniam Alaro, or the best history player you've never heard of, Khanh Nguyen, for instance. The 9th place 2021 History Bee and Bowl team Qingyu Zhang could also fit here.

- Rank Hayden Prather on your trash ballot.
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The player poll is now closed! Results will (hopefully) be posted by tomorrow evening. Thank you to everyone who participated!
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Re: 2022-2023 End of Season Player Poll

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Thank you to everyone who submitted a poll! In total, we received ballots and nominations from 25 people, so special shout-outs to those people, including: Michal Gerasimiuk, S. A. Shenoy, Matt Jackson, Caleb Kendrick, Will Alston, Subhamitra Banerjee Roychoudry, Raymond Wang, Mitch McCullar, Tim Morrison, Forrest Weintraub, Dan Ni, Nathan Zhang, Andrew Zeng, Aum Mundhe, Richard Niu, Ned Tagtmeier, Jonathan Tran, Walter Zhang, Matthew Lehmann, Conor Thompson, John Marvin, Joel Miles, Chris Sims, and Tracy Mirkin. Without further ado, here are the results from the end-of-season poll:


Overall (19 ballots):

1. Matt Bollinger: 531 (highest 1, lowest 3)
2. Matt Jackson: 530 (highest 1, lowest 2)
3. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 504 (highest 1, lowest 4)
4. Tracy Mirkin: 473 (highest 4, lowest 7)
5. Matthew Lehmann: 468 (highest 3, lowest 8)
6. Clark Smith: 440 (highest 4, lowest 13)
7. Tim Morrison: 408 (highest 6, lowest unvoted)
8. Caleb Kendrick: 389 (highest 4, lowest 16)
9. Natan Holtzman: 379 (highest 6, lowest 13)
10. Jonathan Tran: 375 (highest 4, lowest 18)
11. Geoffrey Chen: 353 (highest 7, lowest 18)
12. Arya Karthik: 352 (highest 7, lowest 15)
13. Hari Parameswaran: 336 (highest 6, lowest 17)
14. Raymond Wang: 315 (highest 6, lowest unvoted)
15. Chris Ray: 282 (highest 8, lowest 25)
16. Adam Fine: 237 (highest 12, lowest unvoted)
17. Daniel Ma: 226 (highest 15, lowest 28)
18. Vincent Du: 218 (highest 13, lowest 27)
19. Amogh Kulkarni: 202 (highest 13, lowest 26)
20. Jason Hong: 157 (highest 12, lowest 30)
21. Daniel Sheinberg: 147 (highest 16, lowest unvoted)
22. Charles Hang: 140 (highest 16, lowest unvoted)
23. Mitch McCullar: 129 (highest 15, lowest unvoted)
24. Michal Gerasimiuk: 91 (highest 17, lowest unvoted)
25. Eric Wolfsberg: 86 (highest 16, lowest unvoted)
26. Chris Sims: 83 (highest 21, lowest unvoted)
27. Eve Fleisig: 60 (highest 14, lowest unvoted)
28. Grace Liu: 47 (highest 14, lowest unvoted)
29. Alex Schmidt: 45 (highest 15, lowest unvoted)
T-30. Nathan Zhang: 42 (highest 19, lowest unvoted)
T-30. Mazin Omer: 42 (highest 24, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Ricky Li
Andrew Zeng
Joel Miles
Claire Jones
Arthur Delot-Vilain
Vivek Sasse
Ashish Subramainan
Anson Berns
Ned Tagtmeier
Arjun Nageswaran
Tegan Kapadia
John Marvin
Brad Maclaine
Alex Li
Justin Hawkins
Vedul Palavjjhala
Halle Friedman
Conor Thompson
Leo Law


History (14 ballots):

1. Jonathan Tran: 180 (highest 1, lowest 4)
2. Matt Jackson: 160 (highest 2, lowest 4)
3. Matt Bollinger: 138 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
4. Tracy Mirkin: 136 (highest 3, lowest 13)
5. Hari Parameswaran: 131 (highest 2, lowest 9)
6. Matthew Lehmann: 116 (highest 3, lowest 8)
7. Chris Ray: 93 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
8. Daniel Ma: 89 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
9. Caleb Kendrick: 59 (highest 6, lowest unvoted)
10. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 53 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
11. Charles Hang: 48 (highest 8, lowest unvoted)
12. Jason Hong: 42 (highest 8, lowest unvoted)
13. Andrew Zeng: 41 (highest 9, lowest unvoted)
14. Amogh Kulkarni: 18 (highest 11, lowest unvoted)
15. Dean Ah Now: 15 (highest 9, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Claire Jones
Tegan Kapadia
Natan Holtzman
Clark Smith
Justin Hawkins
Arjun Nageswaran
Alex Schmidt
Stevie Miller
Gareth Thorlakson
Qingyu Zhang
Justin Wytmar
Vivek Sasse
Biniam Alaro


Science (13 ballots):

1. Geoffrey Chen: 165 (highest 1, lowest 1)
2. Adam Fine: 154 (highest 2, lowest 3)
3. Arya Karthik: 101 (highest 3, lowest 14)
4. Vincent Du: 100 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
5. Alex Akridge: 85 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
6. Jason Hong: 84 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
7. Alex Li: 83 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
8. Vivek Sasse: 79 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
9. Natan Holtzman: 75 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
10. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 45 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
11. Eric Wolfsberg: 42 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)
12. Mazin Omer: 39 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)
13. Daniel Sheinberg: 28 (highest 7, lowest unvoted)
14. Geoffrey Wu: 27 (highest 7, lowest unvoted)
15. Shahar Schwartz: 26 (highest 7, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Dan Ni
Noah Chen
Tracy Mirkin
Katherine Lei
Karan Gurazada
Tim Morrison
Grace Liu
Richard Niu
Swapnil Garg
Ben Chapman
June Yin
Stan Melkumian
Raul Passement
Connor Blake
Matthew Lehmann
Nikhil Chellam
Coby Tran
Matt Schiavone
Jonathan Lau
Yared Tadesse
Paul Lee


Literature (15 ballots):

1. Matt Bollinger: 190 (highest 1, lowest 5)
2. Matt Jackson: 169 (highest 1, lowest 5)
3. Mitch McCullar: 157 (highest 1, lowest 7)
4. Tim Morrison: 149 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
5. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 143 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
6. Matthew Lehmann: 128 (highest 2, lowest 11)
7. Raymond Wang: 118 (highest 2, lowest 15)
T-8. Clark Smith: 91 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
T-8. Arya Karthik: 91 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
10. Tracy Mirkin: 68 (highest 6, lowest unvoted)
11. Daniel Sheinberg: 50 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
12. Eve Fleisig: 47 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
T-13. Amogh Kulkarni: 29 (highest 9, lowest unvoted)
T-13. Nathan Zhang: 29 (highest 10, lowest unvoted)
15. Ned Tagtmeier: 26 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Justin Chen
Caleb Kendrick
Wenying Wu
Anson Berns
Grace Liu
Andrew Zeng
Vincent Du
Michal Gerasimiuk
Ethan Ashbrook
Darren Petrosino
Andrew Hanna
Claire Jones
Anuttam Ramji
Rosa Xia
Ricky Li


Visual Fine Arts (9 ballots):

1. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 67 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
2. Tracy Mirkin: 53 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
3. Hari Parameswaran: 47 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
4. Halle Friedman: 41 (highest 1, lowest 10)
5. Matt Jackson: 28 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
T-6. Cormac Beirne: 20 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
T-6. Tim Morrison: 20 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)
8. Nathan Zhang: 17 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
T-9. Eve Fleisig: 14 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
T-9. Matt Bollinger: 14 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
T-9. Clark Smith: 14 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Raymond Wang
Matthew Lehmann
Vincent Du
Tanis Nielsen
Joel Miles
Kevin Park
Ricky Li
Ani Perumalla
S. A. Shenoy
Graham Cope
Ethan Ashbrook


Auditory Fine Arts (12 ballots):

1. Karan Gurazada: 83 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
2. Max Brodsky: 67 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
3. Chris Sims: 60 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
4. Raymond Wang: 59 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
5. Richard Niu: 53 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
6. Natan Holtzman: 48 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
7. Jacob Egol: 45 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
8. Clark Smith: 43 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
9. Vincent Du: 31 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
10. Kevin Park: 11 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Arya Karthik
Michael Li
Matt Bollinger
Matthew Lehmann
Ani Perumalla
S. A. Shenoy
Tracy Mirkin
Kyle Hu
Adam Fine
Justin Wytmar
Rosa Xia
Aum Mundhe
Annabelle Yang
Forrest Weintraub
Eve Fleisig


Beliefs (7 ballots):

1. Matt Jackson: 44 (highest 1, lowest 4)
2. Matt Bollinger: 42 (highest 1, lowest 10)
3. Clark Smith: 39 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
4. Brad Maclaine: 25 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
5. Annabelle Yang: 21 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
6. John Marvin: 15 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
7. Tracy Mirkin: 14 (highest 6, lowest unvoted)
T-8. Itamar Naveh-Benjamin: 6 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
T-8. Conor Thompson: 6 (highest 7, lowest unvoted)
T-10. Natan Holtzman: 5 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
T-10. Ashish Subramainan: 5 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Chris Ray
Hari Parameswaran
Raymond Wang
Jonathan Tran
Joel Miles
Leah Honsinger
Walter Zhang
Quynh Phung
Benjamin McAvoy-Bickford
Qingyu Zhang
Vedul Palavajjhala
Ned Tagtmeier
Chris Sims
Jacob Egol
Caleb Kendrick
Amogh Kulkarni
Tegan Kapadia
Alex Schmidt


Thought (9 ballots):

1. Matt Jackson: 71 (highest 1, lowest 4)
2. Caleb Kendrick: 66 (highest 1, lowest 5)
3. Matt Bollinger: 61 (highest 1, lowest 7)
4. Clark Smith: 46 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
5. Vincent Du: 30 (highest 2, lowest 9)
6. John Marvin: 27 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
7. Matthew Lehmann: 18 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)
8. Brad Maclaine: 17 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
T-9. Tim Morrison: 14 (highest 7, lowest unvoted)
T-9. Joel Miles: 14 (highest 5, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Geoffrey Chen
Arya Karthik
Chris Sims
James Stevenson
Itamar Naveh-Benjamin
Amogh Kulkarni
Walter Zhang
Nathan Zhang


Other (6 ballots):

1. Matt Jackson: 33 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
2. Conor Thompson: 24 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
3. Tracy Mirkin: 23 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
T-4. Natan Holtzman: 22 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
T-4. Charles Hang: 22 (highest 1, lowest unvoted)
6. Kevin Fan: 18 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)
7. Alex Schmidt: 17 (highest 2, lowest unvoted)
T-8. Joel Miles: 11 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
T-8. Benjamin McAvoy-Bickford: 11 (highest 4, lowest unvoted)
10. Ashish Subramainan: 5 (highest 3, lowest unvoted)

Also receiving votes:

Daniel Ma
Caleb Kendrick
Pratyush Jaishanker
Chris Sims
Leah Honsinger
Chris Ray
S. A. Shenoy
Walter Zhang
Alex Li
Ani Perumalla
Jonathan Lau
Sanjay Srihari



Thank you all once again for a great season!
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Re: 2022-2023 End of Season Player Poll

Post by Good Goblin Housekeeping »

Eligible player billy busse is under ranked 😤
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