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This is your question-specific discussion for the 2025 Division II ICT and IPNCT sets.
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Can I see the tossup on Minerva from the D2 ICT set?
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2025 Division II ICT Finals 1 wrote:In Roman Britain, this goddess was syncretized with the Celtic goddess Sulis and worshipped at Bath. She was the youngest member of the Capitoline Triad, alongside Jupiter and Juno. In the sixth book of the Metamorphoses, this goddess answers a (*) challenge from a talented mortal weaver and drives the weaver to hang herself. Arachne was turned into a spider by—for 10 points—what Roman goddess of wisdom?

answer: Minerva (accept Pallas; before "what Roman," accept Pallas Athena; after "what Roman," reject "Athena" or "Pallas Athena")
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Important Bird Area wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:34 pm
2025 Division II ICT Finals 1 wrote:In Roman Britain, this goddess was syncretized with the Celtic goddess Sulis and worshipped at Bath. She was the youngest member of the Capitoline Triad, alongside Jupiter and Juno. In the sixth book of the Metamorphoses, this goddess answers a (*) challenge from a talented mortal weaver and drives the weaver to hang herself. Arachne was turned into a spider by—for 10 points—what Roman goddess of wisdom?

answer: Minerva (accept Pallas; before "what Roman," accept Pallas Athena; after "what Roman," reject "Athena" or "Pallas Athena")
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Was this answerline adjudicated incorrectly in the finals? I thought I heard the player buzz with "Athena" well before the FTP and got negged for it. It's entirely possible I did not hear correctly, though.
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https://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament/g ... id=1405310

There was apparently a nasty procedural protest in this game which I would like to know more about. Semifinals from IPNCT though I'm not sure what question. Maybe someone else can elaborate.

Also TU 80 from the Finals. Tate needed a power and buzzed one word out? (smh)
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Round 6 TU 72 pls.
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I would like to see the Panhandle, Semitic language family, and colour TUs. Thank you in advance
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Zane Vatter wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:21 am I would like to see the Panhandle, Semitic language family, and colour TUs. Thank you in advance
2025 Division II ICT round 10 wrote:One of these regions, formed by the addition of Texas and New Mexico under the Compromise of 1850, was once nicknamed "No Man's Land." The city of Wheeling is in one of these regions bounded by the Ohio River and Pennsylvania in West Virginia, the (*) only state to have two of them. Pensacola is at the western end of one of—for 10 points—what regions with a kitchen-inspired name, which jut out from the rest of a state?
2025 Division II ICT round 2 wrote:In these languages, so-called "emphatic consonants" may be realized as uvulars, pharyngeals, or ejectives. The only language in this family written in the Latin script is Maltese. Languages in this family often use non-concatenative morphology, such as (*) triconsonantal roots, to form words. Phoenician was an ancient example of—for 10 points—what Afroasiatic languages named for a son of Noah, which include Hebrew?
2025 Division II ICT round 14 wrote:Cultural adoption of "basic terms" for this concept was studied by Brent Berlin and Paul Kay. In Fact, Fiction, and Forecast, Nelson Goodman coined portmanteaus conflating two of these concepts. "Ideas" that both have and (*) lack this concept appear in a grammatical but semantically nonsensical Noam Chomsky sentence ending "sleep furiously." For 10 points—two of what concepts are mashed up in the words "grue" and "bleen"?
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quizbowlcaptain wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:03 am Round 6 TU 72 pls.
2025 Division II ICT Finals 2 wrote:A smoking aardvark with a variation of this name is an alter ego of the producer Madlib. A translation of this name as "in the manner of" designates the Sunday after Easter. At a novel's end, a character with this name is the smaller of two skeletons that turn to dust when pulled apart. A character with this name was adopted by (*) Claude Frollo as a bellringer. For 10 points—give this name of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

answer: Quasimodo (or Quasimoto or Lord Quas; accept Quasimodo Sunday)
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quizbowlchamp1 wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 10:35 am https://www.naqt.com/stats/tournament/g ... id=1405310

There was apparently a nasty procedural protest in this game which I would like to know more about. Semifinals from IPNCT though I'm not sure what question. Maybe someone else can elaborate.
This was a "should have been prompted" scenario that required the reading of a replacement tossup to the player who should have been prompted.
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Important Bird Area wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 12:43 pm
quizbowlcaptain wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 11:03 am Round 6 TU 72 pls.
2025 Division II ICT Finals 2 wrote:A smoking aardvark with a variation of this name is an alter ego of the producer Madlib. A translation of this name as "in the manner of" designates the Sunday after Easter. At a novel's end, a character with this name is the smaller of two skeletons that turn to dust when pulled apart. A character with this name was adopted by (*) Claude Frollo as a bellringer. For 10 points—give this name of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.

answer: Quasimodo (or Quasimoto or Lord Quas; accept Quasimodo Sunday)
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CPiGuy wrote: Tue Apr 08, 2025 9:52 am
Important Bird Area wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2025 11:34 pm
2025 Division II ICT Finals 1 wrote:In Roman Britain, this goddess was syncretized with the Celtic goddess Sulis and worshipped at Bath. She was the youngest member of the Capitoline Triad, alongside Jupiter and Juno. In the sixth book of the Metamorphoses, this goddess answers a (*) challenge from a talented mortal weaver and drives the weaver to hang herself. Arachne was turned into a spider by—for 10 points—what Roman goddess of wisdom?

answer: Minerva (accept Pallas; before "what Roman," accept Pallas Athena; after "what Roman," reject "Athena" or "Pallas Athena")
Thanks!

Was this answerline adjudicated incorrectly in the finals? I thought I heard the player buzz with "Athena" well before the FTP and got negged for it. It's entirely possible I did not hear correctly, though.
We reviewed the audio from this and confirmed that the player's given answer was "Bellona" and not "Athena."
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Can I see the Chile question that mentioned gondolas and “this thing South American country”? Don’t remember which round it was sorry
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2025 Division II ICT round 3 wrote:In a city in this country, people can traverse Cerro Alegre using 16 ascensores, or funicular lifts. A port in this country—destroyed by an earthquake four months after San Francisco in 1906—boomed from serving miners en route to California before becoming a (*) nitrate shipping hub. This country's legislature meets not in its capital, but in its city of Valparaíso. For 10 points—name this thin South American country.
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I'd be interested to hear the logic in downconverting Leonard Wood and Robert Moses to "these two people" questions. Was it meant to prevent players from negging with Roosevelt/Jacobs respectively off of clues that are traditionally associated with just those people at lower difficulties?
Definitely on the first one, it sounds like requiring both parts decreased overall conversion (in my room both teams pulled Roosevelt but not Wood, and I have heard of other rooms in which players pulled Wood but not Roosevelt).
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Can I see the question on George Washington's slaves?
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2025 Division II ICT round 3 wrote:A letter to William Pearce about these people denounces "night walking." These people, including the subject of a newspaper advertisement named Ona Judge, were systematically "rotated" to avoid residing in Philadelphia for six continuous months. These approximately 300 people included the celebrated (*) chef Hercules, and half of them were manumitted in a 1799 will. For 10 points—name these unfree laborers at Mount Vernon.
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I played DII. Having studied prior packets I was surprised with the difficulty of some answerlines (which, considering discussion from the DI members, weren't downconverted): Potiphar's wife, Pyotr Stolypin, the Poor People's Campaign (which I confused with the SCLC due to the mention of Ralph Abernathy leading it after MLK's death), all went dead in rooms in which I was playing. Looking at QBReader, Stolypin has only appeared once as an answerline on 9-10 difficulty, and the Poor People's Campaign: only 8-10. The "These two people" questions were made harder because of the two-person answer. "Robert Moses and Jane Jacobs" went dead (I negged earlier but would not have gotten it until the end). The "Theodore Roosevelt and Leonard Wood" tossup left me confused until the very end when I got it by saying the name of the other leader of the Rough Riders I knew.
For those questions, it would have been better if the answer was changed rather than having easier clues.
Hard answerlines aren't always a bad thing, but if they are too hard for their level of difficulty compared to other questions in the same category, then they have a tendency to level the playing field because nobody can get the question, rather than having the team that knows more history (or whatever) have an advantage.
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Could I see conversion data on the Ma vlást TU? (round 4 of IPNCT, round like 9-10 of ICT DII)
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Can I see the tossup on the "Old Manse?"
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The Favourite wrote: Mon Apr 14, 2025 10:15 am Can I see the tossup on the "Old Manse?"
2025 Division II ICT round 11 wrote:Upon renting this building, Sophia Peabody carved the line "Man's accidents are God's purposes" into a windowpane. While living in this building, an author wrote a story in which Aylmer's wife dies after a splotch fades from her face. This ancestral home of (*) Ralph Waldo Emerson was where "The Birth-Mark" and "Rappaccini's Daughter" were written. A Nathaniel Hawthorne collection is titled "Mosses from"—for 10 points—what home?
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YesYouMayNot wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 am Could I see conversion data on the Ma vlást TU? (round 4 of IPNCT, round like 9-10 of ICT DII)
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Could I see the tossup on The Winter's Tale?
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JanGusEnjoyer wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:38 am Could I see the tossup on The Winter's Tale?
2025 Division II ICT round 3 wrote:Late in this play, a man says "if this be magic, let it be an art lawful as eating" after noticing a woman is "warm." Its fourth act opens with a monologue by "Time," announcing the passage of 16 years. In this play, Leontes suspects an (*) affair between his wife Hermione and his friend Polixenes. The stage direction "Exit, pursued by a bear" appears in—for 10 points—what Shakespeare romance partly titled for a season?
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Can I see the art question about Germany, the literature tossup on Spanish, and the tossups on Curling and Euphoria please?
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mrpotatokid wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:33 am Can I see the art question about Germany, the literature tossup on Spanish, and the tossups on Curling and Euphoria please?
2025 Division II ICT round 12 wrote:An artist from this country painted himself in uniform with a severed right hand in Self-Portrait as a Soldier. An art movement founded in this country in 1905 included the artist of the woodcut The Prophet. Works from an expressionist group from this country whose name meant "the (*) bridge" were shown at the Degenerate Art Exhibition. Emil Nolde and Ernst Kirchner were targeted by—for 10 points—what country's Nazi Party?
2025 Division II ICT round 3 wrote:In a story originally in this language, a "living, viscous ball" drains the blood from Alicia's head. This language was used to write "The Feather Pillow," as well as a story in which a man throwing crabs into the sea discovers a figure whom he keeps in a (*) chicken coop despite his angelic appearance. "A Very Old Man with Enormous Wings" is a story in—for 10 points—what language used by Gabriel García Márquez?

answer: Spanish (or Español) ["The Feather Pillow" is by Uruguayan author Horacio Quiroga.]
2025 Division II ICT Finals 2 wrote:At this sport's 2025 Women's World Championship, held in Uijeongbu, Rachel Homan's team defended the title for Canada. Britain's only 2022 Olympic medals came in this sport, whose games are split into ten ends. In this sport, players aim for a flat (*) circular target called the house with the aid of sweepers. For 10 points—what winter sport involves directing stones over the ice with brooms?
2025 Division II ICT round 1 wrote:In this song's third verse, a much-debated reference to "Joel Hale Osteen" follows six lines that end "know nothin' bout that." This song alludes to a viral DMX rant with a line beginning "I (*) hate the way that you walk." For 10 points—what April 2024 response to "Push Ups" and "Taylor Made Freestyle" by Drake is a Kendrick Lamar diss track titled for "a feeling of well-being or elation"?
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Could I also see the tossups on The Tempest, Mickey Mouse (sports) and the Vegas Golden Knights?
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JanGusEnjoyer wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:23 pm Could I also see the tossups on The Tempest, Mickey Mouse (sports) and the Vegas Golden Knights?
2025 Division II ICT round 4 wrote:In a retelling of this play, a "battle song" for Shango is sung by a character who names himself "X." Fancy clothes distract three pursuers in this play's fourth act, in which Juno, Iris, and Ceres perform a wedding masque. (*) Aimé Césaire wrote a postcolonial adaptation of this play, in which a man claims that "we are such stuff as dreams are made on." For 10 points—Caliban is enslaved by Prospero in what Shakespeare play?

answer: The Tempest (before "fourth act," accept A Tempest or Une Tempête)
2025 Division II ICT round 10 wrote:In a term coined by Labour minister Margaret Hodge, this two-word phrase refers to certain "degrees." Fake watches common in the U.K. after World War II may be the source of this phrase's use to demean the (*) League Cup as inferior to the FA Cup. This phrase is sometimes used to downplay the "rings" won in the NBA's Orlando-based "Bubble." A second-rate "operation" might be derided using—for 10 points—what Disney character's name?
2025 Division II ICT round 7 wrote:This team won 9-3 in a championship-clinching game in which Mark Stone netted a hat trick. While playing for this team, former Pittsburgh Penguins goalie Marc-André Fleury won his only Vezina Trophy. This team, which beat the (*) Florida Panthers to win the 2023 Stanley Cup, lost to the Capitals in the Stanley Cup Finals in its inaugural season in 2018. For 10 points—name this NHL expansion team based in Nevada
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Could I see the tossup on Potiphar's Wife?
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