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2021-22 Collegiate Player Poll

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Here is the player poll for this year. Vote for your top 25 active players who played at least one tournament this season. By popular request, it is also required that ranked players must have either played ICT or ACF Nationals (or was planning to until a cancelled flight or something like that) to be ranked. If you feel so inclined, you can submit your top 15 for each of literature, history, and science, and/or your top 10 visual fine arts, auditory fine arts, thought, and belief as well. If I get enough responses for those I will post the results. Email your ballots to [email protected]. I will keep the poll open for a month, until May 14 2022 at 11:59 P.M.

Feel free to discuss which players you feel deserve to be ranked below.
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Here's my ballot. Two notes:

1. I personally am in favor of stricter guidelines on who should be ranked, and in my ideal world neither MattBo or Itamar would be on my ballot. Nonetheless, I ranked them since they both played at least one closed tournament this year.
2. I valued Nats performance a fair bit more than ICT performance since I think it gives a better sample size and frankly ICT was a pretty shit set this year.

Matt Bollinger
Itamar Naveh-Benjamin
Caleb Kendrick
Jason Golfinos
Matthew Lehmann
Clark Smith
Tim Morrison
Natan Holtzman
Chris Ray
Vincent Du
William Golden
Tracy Mirkin
Geoffrey Chen
Hari Parameswaran
Lia Rathburn
Ethan Strombeck
Jonathan Tran
Adam Fine
Daniel Sheinberg
Eric Wolfsberg
Jaskaran Singh
Grace Liu
Eric Bobrow
Raymond Wang
Moses Kitakule
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Last year was the first time I made a post talking about how good my teammates were, it’s absurd I hadn’t done so earlier, it’s so fun! I’ll also be talking about a few Chicagoans, as well as ex-Chicagoans because you can leave Chicago but you can never leave the cabal. While I obviously do intend to convince you that these particular players are extremely skilled and worthy of your votes, I do want to mention that I’m always incredibly impressed to see all of the amazing players at regional and national tournaments and I’m sure there are plenty of reasonable ballots that do not look similar to mine!

To begin, Charles adapted stunningly well to playing with me, and was pretty much the ideal second scorer, including having very good cheer even when I negged him out of history for the 7,000th time! Charles’s depth in History, Geo/CE, Religion, and general ability across the board was integral to our team’s success, and he certainly functioned well as both a generalist and a specialist. He’s certainly one of the best history players in the game (it’s very difficult to rank them numerically, so I will not attempt to do so, but I’d imagine he’s somewhere in the top 7, and within that generally it just comes down to who’s editing the tournament and how people are feeling that day) and it was a relief whenever we got a classical history tossup in a packet, because we were definitely going to get a bonus! Also, this may not be germane to this thread (maybe there will be a teammate appreciation thread again this year!) but Charles attended basically every practice and read for most of the time at many of them. He was integral to keeping the team together and making sure the young players had plenty of fulfilling practice time in a way that I did not really have the time or energy for this year, and I certainly appreciate that! I would say you should probably have Charles in your 14-20 range, anything lower than that would be a pretty significant under-ranking in my opinion, and over that you start to get into top scorers on top bracket teams.

Next, Annabelle! There is not a doubt in my mind that Annabelle is the best myth player in college quiz bowl right now. She was basically lockdown on it at ACF Nationals, taking it off Matt Bollinger among other high-level specialists. She’s also extremely good at fine arts, and her work in medical school gives her the ability to help out with biochem (and sometimes other!) tossups and bonuses which was a huge help! Finally, she gets plenty of very early religion buzzes, across many religions. Annabelle’s contribution on bonuses, as well, is extremely impressive, as she racked up 30’s at a shocking rate, particularly at ACF Nationals. Her ability to scale up to impossible levels on her categories really is unique among players I’ve seen so far this year, and I definitely think you should consider her in the 20-25 range of your ballot. I shadow her with both gets and negs in her categories, as does Charles, and I think that range for me will be high level specialists on top teams.

Next Paul and Amith: I don’t think either should be in your top 25, but that won’t stop me.
Paul had an excellent performance at both nationals. Beyond being pretty difficult to beat at medicine questions, Paul is very good at chemistry and grabs buzzes across the rest of science, as well as scattered humanities buzzes. He beat Cornell to both biology questions he played against them, which is pretty indicative of his skill there. He got a lit (!) tossup against Harvard which ended up making the difference in that particular game. In addition, he’s pretty spectacular at trash which is definitely a big help on NAQT.

Amith was a pretty delightful teammate! Sadly he will not earn a place on my ballot, perhaps if he’d baked cookies for the team as promised he could’ve changed my mind! Amith is, as you’d expect, very good at medicine content as well, and has nice range across the rest of science, as well as some assorted knowledge in things like “places he’s lived near” (He would’ve first lined the wood tossup at nationals I believe). I’m glad we were able to bring him along for ACF Nationals, he was a very supportive teammate and also had a great game against Maryland (3/0!) to help us pull off a win there!

I’ll keep my praise of the Chicagoans pretty short, otherwise I’ll be here all day.
Adam is pretty certainly, in my view, a top 2 science player. He combines the early clue ability to rack up tons of great buzzes (3rd most powers at ICT among primarily science players, and I’d guess Vivek racked up more non science powers than him) with a pretty shocking ability to avoid negs. When you have Adam on your team you can be pretty confident you’re going to get at least 2 of the science, you have a substantial chance to get all 4, and you get a show to go along with it since Adam turns playing science into a performance art. He also has underrated ability in thought and fine arts, which was indispensable for the Chicago team on their way to high finishes at both nationals. Based on how my ballot looks right now I think he should be 16-20, and certainly no lower than 20th. The top 15 players are all either Geoffrey (probably a better specialist than him) or are capable of being team leading generalists on a very good team. Adam strikes me as the best of the specialists, as someone who has more generalist ability than most specialists have, and is also one of the best specialists in his category.
As I expected, Ben’s misfortune of playing next to me last year led him to get buzzed out of and negged out of an undue amount of history tossups. I feel very confident he’s the best American history player in the country, he’s excellent at NAQT categories, and he’s very strong at the rest of the history distribution. In retrospect one of the saddest moments of this year’s ICT was having to play the packet with 3 American history tossups against Ben, although it was, of course, wonderful seeing him again. I think Ben should probably be in your 18-22 range, as someone who was the lead scorer on a balanced 4th place team at ICT, and also had an extremely impressive nationals performance .


When I said ex-Chicagoans, it may not surprise you to learn that I really just meant Tim. Tim was the leading scorer on a team that, statistically, was one of the best ICT teams ever. They are top 10 in PP20TUH, which is particularly impressive given the difficulty of the sets the past few years (the last team to put up similar statistics was Yale in 2019), and they absolutely annihilated the rest of the ICT field statistically. In addition, they had the second best D-value in D1 as a three person team while missing Eric! Tim also led them to a second place finish at ACF Nats where they were clearly a cut above the other non Georgia Tech teams. Tim is one of the best lit players in the country, I would guess that he’s somewhere in the top 5 and probably third best behind Itamar and Mattbo, although I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if he were better than either on the right set. Tim also is extremely good at physical sciences, basically untouchable on math, excellent at jazz and film (thanks to Mike Cheyne for pointing out my omission!), and has generalism across most of the rest of the distribution. Him and Natan were the only players with 20 powers at ICT and less than 10 negs, which speaks to both their depth and to their ability to play efficiently (and also to Stanford being really really good, going to bury this hot take here). Tim should definitely be in your top 8, and I think he’ll probably end up either 5th or 6th on my ballot.
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Tippy Martinez wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:59 pm frankly ICT was a pretty shit set this year.
Please feel free to expand upon this in the discussion forum!
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The Blind Prophet wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:53 pm Note: The initial post has been adjusted to account for some suggested changes in the discord.
This is a stupid rule and people should ignore it.

EDIT: To be more specific: I find it extremely problematic to have a rule carved out for exactly one person.
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meebles127 wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:55 pm
The Blind Prophet wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:53 pm Note: The initial post has been adjusted to account for some suggested changes in the discord.
This is a stupid rule and people should ignore it.

EDIT: To be more specific: I find it extremely problematic to have a rule carved out for exactly one person.
There is at least one other player besides Itamar who's a pretty clear top 25 player and played 3+ closed tournaments but not either nationals (Evan Lynch). I think it's very reasonable to set clear standards on who is eligible and not for the poll, so that the final rankings represent something concrete (even if that is "the best active players who planned on playing a nationals").
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-I know everyone hates the “here’s why my teammate is the best x player you’ve never heard of,” but whatever. Michael Bucknall is the best philosophy player you’ve never heard of, unless you have heard of him, in which case he’s the best philosophy player you’ve heard of. It’s a shame he’s graduating early this year, as it means UNC now has only one philosophy player better than Caleb Kendrick, rather than three.

-Caroline Mao should be in your lit player ballot (duh). Annabelle Yang should be at or near the top in your belief and VFA ballots; I assume this statement has a similar level of obviousness as the previous one. Kevin Thomas should be in your belief ballot too, especially if you value myth knowledge, and especially especially if you value cryptid knowledge (some say that Kevin himself is a cryptid; as UNC’s leading cryptozoologist, Kevin has been sent to investigate this).

-He’s not quite there just yet, but Ashish Subramanian is a pretty safe bet to be a top 25 player by this time next year; he’s also already the best geography player in the country. Don’t sleep on Duke in 2023.

-Finally, it should go without saying that Vincent Du should be in your top 25; but you should strongly consider putting him in your top 10 as well. Vincent is a top-tier specialist at all his categories, which are both numerous and some of the hardest to be good at (music, science, philosophy, social science). He buzzes on all of these with incredible consistency, regardless of opponent: at Nationals, he converted 9 of 17 social science tossups, 12 of 17 music tossups, and a combined 24 of the 34 chemistry and physics tossups he heard--and half of these were against top-bracket teams. Perhaps more impressive is the ppb UNC A maintained throughout the tournament--just north of 16, good for 7th overall--with Vincent having to single-handedly cover almost half the bonuses we heard. It’s a shame we couldn’t only get bonuses in Vincent’s categories, because he handled his like they were warm-up exercises--a clean 20 ppb on physics and music and an impossibly good 21 on philosophy. Unfortunately, Vincent may be haunted by accusations of poor teamsmanship in the years to come, as he was rude and audacious enough as to outscore the rest of his teammates combined in the prelims, being one of only 5 top-bracket players to do so. Now I know how Kwame Brown felt playing next to Kobe.

If I may take a page from Matthew Lehmann, though, I should note Vincent’s most incredible qualities as a player, all of which were outside the realm of tossups and bonuses. Vincent is the quintessential team leader, a stoic and affirming presence who’s always ready with congratulations for a good buzz and condolences for a tough neg. He’s kept us calm during games where emotions were ready to get the best of us, and hyped us up when we got too passive and a game started to slip away. I always felt better about my play when I was on a team with Vincent, regardless of how my statline looked that day--not only did I have an innate sense that I was doing my job as a support specialist while he carried the team to win after win, but I also knew that any Vincent-led team would prioritize fun and coolheadedness over the hotheaded, unhealthy play so common among good quizbowl teams. This is a pastime that prioritizes intense competition and rivalry; it is far too easy to internalize that intensity and standoffishness in the process of studying for the game. However, despite being one of quizbowl’s best players, Vincent is still among the kindest, most easygoing, best-natured people you’ll meet in the entire community, and I can’t imagine spending the last four years playing literature next to anyone else but him. Thanks for all the fist bumps, great buzzes, stupid jokes, and long rides home to Chapel Hill, my friend. It was truly a pleasure.
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ranking daniel sheinberg is cool, don't get me wrong. you should rank daniel sheinberg.
ranking daniel sheinberg and not ranking daniel ma simply shows you do not pay attention to yaleqb.
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1. Matt Bollinger
2. Itamar
3. Jason Golfinos
4. Clark Smith
5. Tracy Mirkin
6. Chris Ray
7. Caleb Kendrick
8. Matthew Lehmann
9. Tim Morrison
10. Natan Holtzman
11. Vincent Du
12. Lia Rathburn
13. William Golden
14. Geoffrey Chen
15. Grace Liu
16. Hari Parameswaran
17. Charles Hang
18. Adam Fine
19. Jonathan Tran
20. Ethan Strombeck
21. Daniel Sheinberg
22. Jaskaran Singh
23. Raymond Wang
24. Ben Miller
25. Eric Wolfsberg
26. (if you drop Itamar from my ballot ) Daniel Ma

EDIT: My criteria for ranking here is basically "how well do I think this person would perform, on average, in the top bracket at ACF Nationals and ICT" evaluating those two tournaments relatively evenly, with a slight nod towards ACF Nationals. I ranked Tracy very highly because he did very well at last year's Nationals and has clearly improved significantly since; Lia did not make top bracket, but her incredible performance at ICT speaks for itself and suggests she'd do well in the top bracket. Caleb I may have under-ranked, given his absolutely extraordinary ACF Nationals performance, but taking ICT into consideration as well I think this is fair.
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Henry Atkins is a name I haven't been seeing on any of these lists, even though he provided extremely strong performances at both Nationals this year.
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By "rank DMa," I believe Jordan meant "rank DMa higher than that." DMa led Yale in scoring above Sheinberg at DI ICT, Sheinberg+me at Penn Bowl and Sheinberg+Arthur+me at Regs. The only time when he was not our top scorer was ARCADIA. I played with Sheinberg at IO and with DMa at DI SCT, and while I believe I kept up with Sheinberg (we were sixth and seventh individually, within 3 ppg), DMa absolutely outclassed me (with a difference of 28 ppg!). I hate to be, in effect, arguing against ranking Sheinberg higher, but the discussion around the poll has ignored most of the season in favor of one (by all means great, as you are aware!) performance.

Speaking of which, once Arthur arrived at nats, he was playing just as well as Sheinberg. In fact, he contributed the most of us all to the victory over Brown in the finals. You should look at the playoff stats more closely, especially at the increase in ppb. Of course, he also absolutely destroyed DII ICT, but that may not be a big deal given the competition in this poll.

I think all three of my teammates are easily in the top 20 and close to each other, and DMa is likely a top-15 player.
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Caleb should be very, very high on your ballot. He led the Nats top bracket team with the least scoring support by a decent margin and dragged us to a top 5 finish through sheer force of will, going 66/4 in the top bracket and beating Stanford en route to our finish. He’s the best philosophy player in the field (notwithstanding any UNC slander) and absolutely elite at SS and American history, but he can buzz everywhere on the distribution - at Nats he put up 8 tossups on both UNC and Columbia and 9 against Chicago in spite of me negging him out of free points in all 3. He has the most important quality for being an elite quizbowl player - the sheer determination that enables him to win games that probably shouldn’t be winnable on paper. Though you might be tempted to move him down due to his narrower band of specialism compared to other poll favorites, you should consider that he also was our team’s best player across all of history, almost all of literature, and most of the arts and regularly came out on top against more specialized teams; the categories I explicitly listed are the ones in which he is clearly a cut above nearly every other player, but he could easily fill in as a specialist for over half of the distro on basically any top team.

Probably the biggest detriment to Caleb’s ranking is our performance at ICT. At risk of sounding like I’m making excuses, I think a large part of our ICT performance came down to having a slow morning - in the afternoon, our only loss was a narrow one to Cornell, who were statistically as strong as the first bracket teams. We also ended with the 8th best ppb, after our ppb jumped from under 15 in prelims to around 17 in playoffs (the main difference being that Caleb took some headache pills in between.) I think the data strongly points towards Maryland being a top 5-10 team overall, and given how balanced most other teams vying for that range are (see: Texas, Chicago, Brown, UNC, Columbia, Cornell), it stands to reason that there are very few players stronger than Caleb.

In sum, you should consider that Caleb is incontestably the best player on 1/1 of the distro, in the running for top player on another 2/2, competitive with top bracket specialists on another 8/8 or so, and carried a team to top 5 at nats with only about 20 ppg of support in top bracket - he’s both a deadly specialist and one of the best generalists in the game, with the ability to take out absolutely anyone on a good packet, and I hope he ends up ranked as such.
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I highly recommend you all consider my teammate Eric Bobrow for inclusion in your rankings. Eric has consistently been improving year-by-year since I've been at Hopkins and has now become a strong generalist at all levels of the game. He is consistently excellent on auditory fine arts and physics, getting nearly all the tossups in these categories that we heard at Nats. In my opinion he is among the top players in the country on these categories. Outside of those two categories, he demonstrates solid knowledge of literature, philosophy, and visual fine arts and more than held his own against tough competition at Nats, being the 10th scorer in prelims. While we didn't send a team to ICT DI, I'm confident Eric would have put up a similarly impressive performance there. In short, Eric is an incredible quiz bowl player who merits a position among the top 25 players this season.
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I’m not knowledgeable enough about the community as a whole to offer up a complete ballot, but I would like to shill some Cornellians.

I think the top three scorers on Cornell A, who all scored very similarly to each other (within about 5 ppg at both nationals), all deserve votes in both the top 25 general poll as well as subject polls. Geoffrey Chen and Jonathan Tran are top specialists in science and history, respectively; their ICT and ACF Nationals stats speak for themselves (Geoff is also very good at p/ss). Raymond Wang should be ranked in literature and perhaps as high as top-5 in overall FA; he nearly swept music at Nats (including getting tossups over Stanford and Northwestern) and is elite at vfa as well. (Nathan Zhang also deserves a shout-out here, proving to be a very valuable fourth scorer as only a freshman while having very large overlap in coverage with Raymond; he had a monster Regionals in particular and put up solid points at both nationals.)
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I second everything Henry said about Vincent; he is a wonderful quizbowl player and human being. You should definitely consider ranking him in your top 10. Also definitely rank him subject wise for science, afa, and thought, he is top 5 in all of these categories for sure. You should also be ranking Henry Goff for literature, though. UNC A was just as strong in literature as in Vincent's categories at nats. Henry got an astounding 29 lit tossups and provided UNC a 16.67 ppb in lit, which im sure ranks among the top few teams in that category. You should also heavily consider ranking him top 25; in addition to this strong nats performance he has had some spectacular regular season performance, having outscored Vincent on multiple occasion and put up numbers as good as some of the best players out there.
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Henry is definitely deserving of consideration for top 10 literature and top 25 overall; his ppb speaks for itself, and he picked up 18 out of the 40 literature questions he heard in the top bracket. Henry was UNC A's best player for a very large part of the regular season: see stats for ACF Winter, SCT, and later rounds of MRNA. Consistently he would anchor us in key games by sweeping the literature and picking up good buzzes in other parts of the distribution. Also consider his deep specialties in many different stripes of philosophy (particularly continental, critical theory, and early analytic stuff), stripes of visual art (fashion, film, contemporary art, modernism in painting), and recent-ish history. As someone who's played next to him in practice and tournaments for the last four years, Henry's improvement this year into a top literature player was incredible to witness; in addition, he is as good-humored, funny, and determined of a teammate as anybody could ask for.

Kevin had a truly unlucky run with the questions at ACF Nationals, with the majority of his negs being very near gets, but that shouldn't distract you from the fact that he is an elite beliefs, biology, and ancient history player. He is among quizbowl's very best at mythology (particularly Biblical, Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Mesoamerican, and European myths), has deep knowledge of many world religions, and excels at things that "fall through the cracks" in belief (folksy myths, urban myths, anomalous phenomena, etc). He deserves to be in or very close to top 5 in the belief poll. Kevin is, in my mind, also undoubtedly a top five ancient history and archaeology player. There is never a dull moment with Kevin on your team: his passion for his subjects is truly infectious, and he has heaps of anecdotes about episodes from history, myth, and biology.

Any evaluation of Grant must begin with the fact that he literally cannot hear a significant portion of what happens in any given quizbowl game; regardless, he will put up great buzzes on history, other/misc, world literature, and more. Grant's study time this year was unfortunately taken away by his thesis, but one needs to look no further than last year's nationals stats to understand what Grant having reviewed his cards is capable of. He is one of the best African literature players in the field, has read a truly incredible amount of history in the past two years or so when he decided to start improving seriously (most of the Oxford History of the US, multiple Cambridge World History volumes, Norman Davies' Europe, Tony Judt's Postwar (though this was probably before the binge), etc), and is incredibly zen. I believe he merits consideration for the history poll. More intangibly, he is UNC's real ceiling-raiser: his improvement and energy is what motivated the rest of us.

To shout-out our D2 players, in case another poll forms there: Jonathan is already a strong generalist and elite at philosophy, with great motivation to improve; Michael E is a very good chemistry specialist (old-school, named reaction/functional group-style) with some strong history and vfa knowledge; Ivvone is one of the best opera players already (I didn't know "opera fraud" was possible before I saw her play) and has deep pockets in biology, vfa, and other science; Rasheeq is the best physics and math/cs player on UNC Quizbowl, and will only improve
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I made a list of players who I think have a pretty good argument for top 15 in science for those looking to make a list in that category (I did not put these in any particular order and there are more of them than 15). If you feel like someone you know should be on this list and isn't, by all means shout them out, I don't know everyone in the community. With that being said:

Mazin Omer
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Katherine Lei
Grace Liu
Shahar Schwartz
Kevin Ye
Vincent Du
Tim Morrison
Natan Holtzman
Eric Wolfsberg
Geoffrey Chen
Dan Ni
Noah Chen
Moses Kitakule
Andrew Hanna
Rohin Devanathan
Eric Bobrow
Adam Fine
Vivek Sasse
Ryan Humphrey
Alex Li

Again, it's not in order, but if you want to vote for a cracked science teammate and don't know where to go with the rest of the list, this might be a good place to start.
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Everyone is sleeping on Richard Niu, the 18 year old AFA prodigy from California. He's also a cracked Science Bowl player, who would've made USNCO Camp his senior year if he didn't throw on Part I. After leading the national powerhouse Lynbrook High School to Top 32 at NSB, Richard burst onto the collegiate scene after beating Nathan Zhang in a 1v1 on IS-208 at practice earlier this year. Literature players beware, because Richard is going to make the quizbowl literature distribution his new stomping grounds, and this Chard Chrain is not showing any signs of slowing down.
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Hey everyone! I just wanted to do a quick write up of the main Texas scorers for your consideration as well as one or two people who I imagine most people are not aware of but who absolutely should be on your radar.

First for Texas B:
Ashwath Seetharaman: A very solid generalist with strengths in myth, literature, and bio. He might not be good enough for a top 25 spot but if you are struggling to think of someone for that spot he is certainly not a wholly undeserving consideration.
Karan Gurazada: However high you plan to rank him for AFA, it probably is not high enough. If you are going to rank William (and you obviously should), Karan probably deserves to be at least a spot or two higher. I would contend that he is deserving of a top 5 placement, maybe even top 3. Depending on how you weigh lockdown specialists (who also can buzz across the distro, especially in science) Karan should be considered for your top 25.
Jisoo Yoo: As a freshman lit player, it is in my opinion very impressive how Jisoo played at Nats, putting up almost 20 ppg. Probably worth consideration for your lit player poll but also likely not quite there yet to be a lock for a vote.
Chinmay Murthy: Very hard to rank personally, probably not a top 10 history player but would first line 2-3 nats history or history-adjacent questions in a packet (including at Nats) and it was not very surprising to anyone who knew him. If geography was a poll category he would deserve a very, very high spot there as well.

Texas A:
William Golden: You all know what to do, rank him in all of the humanities and a top 15 spot overall. Very clearly a top 10 literature, AFA, and VFA player without much qualification in my opinion. Despite the shadow from Jaskaran he still regularly got great history buzzes and despite me playing on the team he would still pull great thought buzzes at every event. Even gets science from time to time. All the success Texas had this year is ultimately in large part due to William and his great glue-like captain-quality.
Jaskaran Singh: Great history player and very underrated literature and thought player as well. Despite a somewhat rough nationals I would contend he is an obvious top 10 history player and a pretty clear top 25 player (just look at his ICT, he led us in scoring on our run despite William and I shadowing him on some of his biggest strengths).
Ryan Humphrey: Probably deserves a spot on your science poll and (perhaps surprisingly) some consideration for your VFA poll as well. The latter because despite playing with William Golden (noted humanities demigod), Ryan still gets painting questions with a high frequency, and may even have been our best VFA player at Regionals difficulty. Ryan does not often put up the sort of "pop off" games that William or Jaskaran do, but he is very consistent and that was extremely valuable at both nationals and ICT.
Brad McLain: Me. Now that there is a thought and belief category, I'll argue for myself a little bit. I think I deserve strong consideration for both of the aforementioned polls. I primarily buzz on just that distribution and was able to fairly consistently get my points from those fields even against top bracket nats teams. How high up you think I belong is up to you but I personally would say I am a better belief player than thought player but perhaps a higher ranking thought player given the relative depths of the two categories across the field.

One last person I want to mention here is Emmy Alme from Rice. Although she is not eligible per the latest rule update to the poll, I think she is a very strong dark horse contender for top 25 player in the country, as well as top 10 in thought (probably sits in the top 20-25 or so for history and literature as well fwiw). As the player getting the overwhelming amount of points for her team, she played Texas B to within a tossup cycle and was able to put up respectable points against a team of Jaskaran, myself, Raul, and Jason Shi at Workshop. That Texas B team is the same team that at ACF Nationals went toe-to-toe with Berkeley, Northwestern, and Florida (beating the latter two) en route to a top 20 finish. If you are going to bend the rules of this poll I would highly encourage you to consider doing so for Emmy.
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Re: 2021-22 Collegiate Player Poll

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I'll try to keep this brief, but I'd like to take a moment to recommend my teammates from Georgia Tech this year.

Coming off a very strong performance at ICT, S.A. Shenoy was an absolutely ideal fourth scorer in the Nationals playoffs this year. The highlight of their performance was answering three tossups in our playoff game against Stanford, which, at the time, we had to win to stay alive. S.A.'s film and jazz knowledge in particular is remarkable, and they were the heart of our team during that playoff run.

Alex Li is just cracked. Alex is rather easily the best other science player I've ever played with on a school team. With due respect to Eric Mukherjee, I don't think I've ever even had an open teammate who's been as automatic as Alex on computer science, earth science, and math. On top of that, Alex is excellent at physics and physical chemistry, and good for one ridiculous history or geography pull per round.

And, what is there to say about Hari Parameswaran. Hari is the best history and visual arts teammate I've ever played with on a school team, and dominated ICT as a leading scorer. Here, I'm going to depart somewhat from the feel-good tone that's dominated the thread so far. I'm going to get into the messy business of relative ranking. I think Hari is better than several of the players above him on Will's ballot; I'd rank him just below Natan, at 11th. Hari got shadowed quite a lot at Nationals, but was still essential to our win in the finals and several other matches. My primary evidence, though, would be ICT, where Hari had the 2nd-highest powers + ppg of any player in the top bracket ( and the 4th-most overall). I don't think enough people are recognizing that that was an absolutely elite performance, in which Hari objectively outplayed several consensus top-10 players. Now, I understand that most people weight ACF more heavily than ICT on this player poll. Even if you weight ICT at 40% and ACF at 60%, though, Hari should be close to the top 10.
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Due to it being a B team and being incredibly balanced with a lot of mutual shadowing, I don't think most will think to rank my teammates, but you should. Claire Jones is already a top history player with strong subdistributional specialties across the board, especially in literature, classical music, and non-dusty British content. Claire is at parity with the top of the field in her categories and has been inspired by this season try to improve, so everyone watch out for the next 5 years; I'll be more than content to be playing specialist backup on her teams for the foreseeable future if that's how things shake out. Vivek Sasse has gone from a solid science player to a Nats-difficulty-crushing one over the course of this year, and it's been a privilege to sit alongside him as this happened. He is an absolute killer on physics, math, astro, and often the other sciences too, and was buzzing somewhere in the hard clues of almost every science tossup at Nationals without making almost any mistakes. Not to mention he's putting up occasional strong history buzzes alongside Claire and against arbitrarily good teams, and is a monster on geo/CE. Alongside this, Grant Li quickly shook off some rust and by Nats turned back into the excellent literature and arts specialist he was before the pandemic, not to mention finally earning recognition for being the world's greatest 1972 Chess World Championship player ever.

Other than that, you're nuts if you're not even considering ranking everyone on Chicago A. Adam Fine remains one of the top science players if not the best, with pockets of arts and other subjects carded too hard for even the realest opponents to outbuzz. Ben Miller's high scoring performances and high power counts go from impressive to mind-blowing when you realize he is effectively playing for 4/4 or 5/5 every game, and landing almost all of it more often than not. Ned Tagtmeier is the real deal, and I regret ever presuming he would have trouble scaling like most former high school stars in their first year; he is the first quizbowler whose talents and speed of thought genuinely make me feel old, and has a better lateral-thinking metagame sense than anyone I've ever watched play besides Alston Boyd. If Ned played as foolishly as I do (despite my best efforts), he'd be the best player in the country with a 4/1 G/N rate. Robert Condron, like Ned, beats me to books I have read every time I encounter him, and puts up strong specialist numbers without really being restricted in category. Both of these youngsters are already at this level and are actively trying hard to improve - that feeling of fear welling in the depths of your soul is entirely justified.

To those who said early in the year that Chicago wouldn't be able to field a top 10 team this year for the first time in ages, welcome to reality.

My only other thing to say is that the Northwestern A folks have been worthy rivals all year and should be on your radar. Chicagoland now has a whole lot of strong players who are early into long degrees. Keep ACF Nationals 2025-7 in the back of your mind :cool:
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Re: 2021-22 Collegiate Player Poll

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THE university of georgia is the best team you've never heard of, assuming you cannot name very many US states. our A team are the true 'hidden bosses' of quiz bowl and should be considered for your top 25 if you are feeling dangerous and prefer to rank those with a true love of the game.

- ashrit jada averaged over 30 ppg at both nationals while negging a combined 0 times, thanks to our genuis strategy of not attending acf nationals. he can also juggle(!)

- jon golan is a top entomology player in quiz bowl, and the lemickeys of the world tremble at our chances to win a packet whose gimmick is identifying bugs by sight.

- my intangibles are well documented, and my insight that "hmm maybe flying spirit again is a bad idea" was key to georgia techs nationals win.

- bob freedman

- we can't know for certain if the other players in uga's club were at one point intending to attend either or both nationals, so better to be safe than sorry and rank all of us

for some sick reason my request that the poll be ranked by college football standings was ignored, possibly because the poll operator is a nerd and/or hater. ignore the stats, vote with your heart (your heart is a big fan of the university of georgia).
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I've been thinking about this post for a while, and although it initially was going to demand Jacob Augelli be on your top 25 ballots, reading others' posts and looking at stats has made me come around on the idea that not having Jacob on your ballot is a reasonable take. However, Jacob Augelli is absolutely no worse than the 25-35 range and should be on your mind when considering the back 5-10 spots of your ballot. Here's the case for Jacob: he was the clear top scorer on our T-6 ICT team (which got the 7th highest PPB, suggesting we largely played at top bracket level throughout the tournament), which included several signature performances against teams and players you're (rightfully!) putting in your top 10. In our 9 games against teams that finished 12 or higher (the top bracket and 2 games against a strong Northwestern team), Jacob went 3/26/3 for 32.2 PPG. This includes some absolutely incredible performances such as 2/5/0 against OSU, outscoring Chris and Clark combined (and this was at least mostly live tossups, as I picked up 10s on 2 of OSU's 4 negs), 1/3/0 against a 4th place Chicago team, and 3 tossups against each of WUStL and Stanford. Jacob's best categories are history, myth, Judeo-Christian religion, and his biggest strength is geo. He also picks up occasional physics/osci buzzes, particularly when questions lean more applied. Don't let Jacob's low power count fool you either. He has serious depth, plays pretty conservatively, and buzzes a ton just out of power, which at the ICT level is often a pretty solid buzz (and is where games are won!). Due to the glut of extremely good history players, Jacob probably isn't a top 10 (though maybe top 15? idk) history player, but I'm very sure he would be a top 10 geo player. Even if you're valuing nats more, Jacob was part of a trio that got us T-17 and put up solid stats in second bracket, including a 6/1 against a very solid Chicago B team.

Andrew Hanna is a very boom-or-bust player, but when he's on, he must be one of the scariest players in quizbowl. His knowledge is effectively entirely "real" (I've never met someone who reads more), and while he's able to buzz across the distribution, he's most deadly in literature and bio/chem. Since PPBs have been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, I unfortunately didn't bring a notebook to ICT and couldn't find a way to write answerlines morning of, so I don't have any detailed stats for that. But, we got 16.1 PPB on lit at nats, primarily Andrew with me helping out (and Sharath some). I think Andrew should probably be considered for the 6-15 range of your literature poll. I'm not sure who the best literature players in second bracket at nats are in general, but Andrew got 3/4 lit against OSU at nats and split with Illinois (Mitch) 2-2, with Andrew seemingly getting his two clean and us losing an at least 4-way buzzer race on the cliffy Cavafy tossup that's been brought up a few times. I don't know enough about science to say how good Andrew is relative to others, but if Shahar thinks he's worth considering I'm definitely inclined to agree. I could pull our PPB here if anyone cares.

Sharath Narayan is incredibly fun to play with and is a threat to get literally every tossup. He's essentially insurance against ever getting a 0 on a bonus or letting too many tossups go dead, even at the Nats level (which he insists he's not good at!), except when the rest of us talk him out of his answer. He also has very deep and real bio/chem knowledge, and if Andrew is worth considering for the science poll on that basis, then I'm inclined to believe Sharath is as well. Sharath also has incredible leadership/captain abilities, and when he tells you "we won't lose this game," you're inclined to believe him, even if only because he just might get each of the last few tossups to close it out.

I don't have much to say about myself, but I do want to talk about the visual arts poll and my merits for it. I think I had an okay ICT (that I don't remember much of due to not sleeping lol) and an absolute shit Nats tossup-wise. Again I don't have actual stats for ICT, but I think that we collectively got more than 2/3s of the vfa questions we heard, with the majority of those being me, and again a large portion of our games were against teams in the top 12. I have no clue what our PPB was like but I'll guess that it was pretty good. If my nats performance alone disqualified me from a vfa ballot, I wouldn't argue against you much. But, despite my horrible statline, we had 19.1 ppb on vfa at Nats (12 bonuses), which was primarily (but not entirely) me, missing 20 PPB by flubbing a 50/50 in round 1. I know there are lots of good vfa players, particularly among the top players overall, but I would be surprised if this PPB didn't put us in the top 10 teams in that category. At my last regular tournament (Workshop), I went 2/6/1, with a teammate getting the other vfa tossup we heard. Not sure what PPB was but I would be surprised if not a little over 20.

I was also going to post about Hari but I'll just say I agree with Mattbo there. Rank him highly.
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Re: 2021-22 Collegiate Player Poll

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Here's a random assortment of people who I think are pretty good:

From Chicago: Adam Fine is a top 10 science player and likely a top 25 overall player. Ben Miller is incredibly good at history.

Alright, that's all I know. I'll now proceed to talk about random players in my year because that's all I know about.

Ned Tagtmeier (Chicago) is really good at literature and RMPSS. Liam Starnes (Chicago) is an incredible history and geography player, and also a superb teammate to play with. Arthur Delot-Vilain, Matthew Siff, and Abhinav Karthikeyan make up a really good trio at Yale that managed to win DII ICT. Likewise, Jisoo Yoo and Karan Gurazada (both UT-Austin) are incredible at literature/RMPSS and science/FA, respectively. Obviously, Nathan Sheffield (MIT) is just out of this world good, probably would've dominated at ACF Nationals if MIT got there on time. Joel Miles (UMN) is also a very good freshman generalist type player. Pranav Sivaram (OSU) and Nathan Zhang (Cornell) are both really good for being a solid contributor to top bracket teams at ACF Nationals. Rosa Xia (Cornell) is very cool and also a really good literature (especially poetry) player. Geoffrey Chen (Wayzata High School) is also alright ig.

Excited to see more cool players next year
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A ballot.

1.Matt Bollinger
2.Jason Golfinos
3.Clark Smith
4.Matthew Lehmann
5.Tracy Mirkin
6.Chris Ray
7.Caleb Kendrick
8.Natan Holtzman
9.Tim Morrison
10.Hari Parameswaran
11.Vincent Du
12.Geoffrey Chen
13.Lia Rathburn
14.Charles Hang
15.Jonathan Tran
16.William Golden
17.Ethan Strombeck
18.Eric Wolfsberg
19.Daniel Sheinberg
20.Raymond Wang
21.Michał Gerasimiuk
22.Eric Bobrow
23.Daniel Ma
24.Adam Fine
25.Chris Sims
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i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about itamar. u wouldnt say this shit to him at uva, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
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1. Matt Bollinger
2. Jason Golfinos
3. Matthew Lehmann
4. Clark Smith
5. Tim Morrison
6. Chris Ray
7. Caleb Kendrick
8. Tracy Mirkin
9. Natan Holtzman
10. Hari Parameswaran
11. Vincent Du
12. Lia Rathburn
13. William Golden
14. Geoffrey Chen
15. Jonathan Tran
16. Ethan Strombeck
17. Adam Fine
18. Grace Liu
19. Daniel Sheinberg
20. Mitch McCullar
21. Charles Hang
22. Henry Atkins
23. Eric Bobrow
24. Jaskaran Singh
25. Daniel Ma
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Re: 2021-22 Collegiate Player Poll

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My teammates have neglected to say much about themselves, so I'll do that for them. I think that Arthur Delot-Vilain, Michal Gerasimiuk, and Daniel Sheinberg are all players worthy of consideration in this poll, and particularly for categories. I'm obviously a bit biased, but I think any combination of any of them could be ranked in the top 25 overall without any real objection; they are all immensely valuable players of similar skill and shine in different situations and styles of set, allowing the team to complement each other very well depending on circumstance. They shone especially brightly at Nats at the most important time on the most difficult set, which should count for something.

Arthur's flight Saturday morning got cancelled, so he missed the first day of Nats. But if you look at the last 7 games of playoffs and the 2 undergraduate finals against Brown (re. the games on Sunday that Arthur played), Arthur, Daniel S, and Michal scored 325, 295, and 255 points respectively.

Arthur and Michal have flown a bit under the radar due to the shadow effect, so I'll elaborate more on their games:

Arthur's remarkable play on Yale A at Nats can be seen through both his (team-leading!) PPG in the second bracket of nats and the improvement in PPB of the team (raising the PPB from 13.9 to 15.6) from Saturday. He's been a remarkable generalist with particular depth in history, lit, and music, and he's put up an amazing first-year campaign as a primary scorer for both the ACF undergrad champions and the ICT D2 champions.

Michal has absurd depth in apparently any category (witness his power numbers on SCT D1 and ICT D2 compared to the field, despite having amazing teammates), and he should be certainly considered for VFA, opera (if there were such an award, I'd suggest he should win it; he powers nearly all the opera), and math/CS. Michal's efficiency on these categories is incredible, with countless tough 30s pulled and very early powers in all of them on practically every set we played together. I'd say over half of his powers at SCT were on one of these categories or other.

Daniel Sheinberg is obviously a great generalist with deep knowledge in lit, bio, and chem; he should be on your lit polls for sure and probably on the bio and chem polls as well.

In terms of my opponents, some of whom have been overlooked: I'd highly suggest that Mazin and Thomas from Harvard be ranked in their respective categories (trash/bio/chem for Mazin, lit/music for Thomas). Harvard's amazing ICT run was in no small part due to them. Additionally, I'd suggest ranking all of Anson, Walter, Michael, and Jason from Brown on either overall or category polls. Anson and Walter are both great at math/CS, lit, and thought; Michael is an excellent music specialist, possibly the best in the NE; Jason is one of the best history players in the region.

Finally, I know this isn't the teammate appreciation thread, but I appreciate my teammates a lot for their kind comments above. I didn't set them up to do this or anything. It means a lot to me with all my struggles with playing quiz bowl this year that they're by my side, and I want to thank them for putting up with everything and still being here for me.
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More ballots.

Literature

1.Matt Bollinger
2.Mitch McCullar
3.Matthew Lehmann
4.William Golden
5.Caroline Mao
6.Darren Petrosino
7.Henry Goff
8.Clark Smith
9.Daniel Sheinberg
10.Caleb Kendrick
11.Moses Kitakule
12.Henry Atkins
13.Jason Golfinos
14.Eve Fleisig
15.Andrew Hanna

History

1.Jonathan Tran
2.Lia Rathburn
3.Caleb Kendrick
4.Matt Bollinger
5.Chris Ray
6.Charles Hang
7.Tegan Kapadia
8.Tracy Mirkin
9.Jaskaran Singh
10.Hari Parameswaran
11.Jason Golfinos
12.Oliver Clarke
13.Michael Coates
14.Matthew Lehmann
15.Ben Miller

Science

1.Geoffrey Chen
2.Adam Fine
3.Vincent Du
4.Natan Holtzman
5.Jacob Robertson
6.Alex Li
7.Daniel Sheinberg
8.Jason Hong
9.Tracy Mirkin
10.Eric Wolfsberg
11.Michał Gerasimiuk
12.Mazin Omer
13.Vishwa Shanmugam
14.Pranav Sivaram
15.Alex Akridge

Visual Fine Arts

1.Matt Bollinger
2.Clark Smith
3.Tracy Mirkin
4.Hari Parameswaran
5.Matthew Lehmann
6.Caleb Kendrick
7.Tim Morrison
8.Thomas Gioia
9.Eric Bobrow
10.Eve Fleisig

Auditory Fine Arts

1.Ethan Strombeck
2.William Golden
3.Chris Sims
4.Clark Smith
5.Vincent Du
6.Raymond Wang
7.Natan Holtzman
8.Alex Gunasekera
9.Matt Bollinger
10.Jacob Egol

Beliefs

1.Chris Ray
2.Jason Golfinos
3.Lia Rathburn
4.Clark Smith
5.Bradley McLain
6.Ned Tagtmeier
7.Sanjay Srihari
8.Eric Bobrow
9.Matt Bollinger
10.Annabelle Yang

Thought

1.Matt Bollinger
2.Caleb Kendrick
3.Jason Golfinos
4.Clark Smith
5.Geoffrey Chen
6.Matthew Lehmann
7.Chris Ray
8.John Marvin
9.Amogh Kulkarni
10.Bradley McLain
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Liarr wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 1:36 am
Thought

5.Caleb Kendrick
lmao WHAT???
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also, Matthew Lehmann is not the 15th (!!) best history player. He's better than Hang, better than me on non-American, etc. definitely should be around the top 5. edit: also, Jason and Tracy are pretty underranked too. Golfinos is probably top 3, he's way better than me on anything not American.
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I made some minor revisions to my subject ballots.
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Joel Miles should definitely be on your Thought poll and Ethan Ashbrook should be on your Lit, AFA poll for your ballots to have any validity
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may post some other subject ballots later, but here’s my lit ballot for now:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Tim Morrison
3. Mitch McCullar
4. William Golden
5. Matthew Lehmann
6. Caroline Mao
7. Daniel Sheinberg
8. Henry Atkins
9. Eve Fleisig
10. Henry Goff
11. Caleb Kendrick
12. Moses Kitakule
13. Raymond Wang
14. Ricky Li
15. Andrew Hanna
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henrygoff wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 11:32 pm may post some other subject ballots later, but here’s my lit ballot for now:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Tim Morrison
3. Mitch McCullar
4. William Golden
5. Matthew Lehmann
6. Caroline Mao
7. Daniel Sheinberg
8. Henry Atkins
9. Eve Fleisig
10. Henry Goff
11. Caleb Kendrick
12. Moses Kitakule
13. Raymond Wang
14. Ricky Li
15. Andrew Hanna
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Tippy Martinez wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 11:39 pm
henrygoff wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 11:32 pm may post some other subject ballots later, but here’s my lit ballot for now:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Tim Morrison
3. Mitch McCullar
4. William Golden
5. Matthew Lehmann
6. Caroline Mao
7. Daniel Sheinberg
8. Henry Atkins
9. Eve Fleisig
10. Henry Goff
11. Caleb Kendrick
12. Moses Kitakule
13. Raymond Wang
14. Ricky Li
15. Andrew Hanna
henry its ok to rank yourself higher king <3
thx but in UNC quizbowl it’s not about being good. it’s about being better than Caleb
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RESULTS:

16 ballots received: Jonathan Shauf, Vincent Du, Henry Goff, Nathan Zhang, Amogh Kulkarni, Tracy Mirkin, Matthew Lehmann, Caleb Kendrick, Connor Mayers, Max Gedajlovic, Jacob Augelli, Michal Germaisiuk, Ben Miller, Lia Rathburn, Will Alston, Tim Morrison

1. Matt Bollinger 350 (consensus 1)
2. Jason Golfinos 335 (highest 2, lowest 3)
3. Clark Smith 307 (highest 2, lowest 7)
4. Matthew Lehmann 297 (highest 3, lowest 10)
T-5. Tracy Mirkin 287 (highest 4, lowest 12)
T-5. Caleb Kendrick 287 (highest 2, lowest 9)
7. Tim Morrison 281 (highest 4, lowest 12)
8. Chris Ray 275 (highest 5, lowest 11)
9. Natan Holtzman 247 (highest 6, lowest 11)
10. William Golden 209 (highest 7, lowest 16)
11. Hari Parameswaran 202 (highest 9, lowest 17)
12. Vincent Du 198 (highest 8, lowest 17)
13. Geoffrey Chen 178 (highest 8, lowest 16)
14. Lia Rathburn 175 (highest 11, lowest 18)
15. Ethan Strombeck 147 (highest 11, lowest 22)
16. Daniel Sheinberg 110 (highest 13, lowest 25)
T-17. Jonathan Tran 102 (highest 15, ranked in 14 ballots)
T-17. Adam Fine 102 (highest 15, lowest 24)
19. Charles Hang 96 (highest 14, ranked in 12 ballots)
20. Grace Liu 78 (highest 14, ranked in 11 ballots)
T-21. Jaskaran Singh 48 (highest 18, ranked in 11 ballots)
T-21. Eric Wolfsberg 48 (highest 14, ranked in 11 ballots)
23. Raymond Wang 45 (highest 18, ranked in 11 ballots)
24. Daniel Ma 34 (highest 12, ranked in 8 ballots)
25. Eric Bobrow 32 (highest 18, ranked in 10 ballots)

Also Receiving Votes:

Mitch McCullar (highest 20, ranked in 7 ballots)
Henry Atkins (highest 19, ranked in 6 ballots)
Moses Kitakule (highest 19, ranked in 6 ballots)
Eve Fleisig (highest 23, ranked in 4 ballots)
Ben Miller (highest 20, ranked in 3 ballots)
Arthur Delot-Vilain (highest 19, ranked in 2 ballots)
Chris Sims (highest 22, ranked in 2 ballots)
Jason Hong (highest 20, ranked in 1 ballot)
Michal Geramisiuk (highest 21, ranked in 1 ballot)
Bradley MacLaine (highest 22, ranked in 1 ballot)
Oli Clarke (highest 23, ranked in 1 ballot)
Annabelle Yang (highest 24, ranked in 1 ballot)
Henry Goff (highest 24, ranked in 1 ballot)
Anson Berns (highest 25, ranked in 1 ballot)


Literature:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Matthew Lehmann
3. William Golden
4. Mitch McCullar
5. Tim Morrison
6. Caroline Mao
7. Clark Smith
8. Daniel Sheinberg
9. Henry Goff
10. Caleb Kendrick
11. Moses Kitakule
12. Henry Atkins
13. Raymond Wang
14. Eve Fleisig
15. Darren Petrosino

Science:

1. Geoffrey Chen
2. Adam Fine
3. Vincent Du
4. Natan Holtzman
5. Alex Li
6. Jacob Robertson
7. Eric Wolfsberg
8. Vishwa Shanmugam
T-9. Tim Morrison
T-9. Daniel Sheinberg
11. Mazin Omer
12. Jason Hong
13. Katherine Lei
14. Vivek Sasse
15. Tracy Mirkin

History:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Jonathan Tran
3. Jason Golfinos
4. Lia Rathburn
5. Tracy Mirkin
6. Chris Ray
7. Matthew Lehmann
8. Jaskaran Singh
9. Hari Parameswaran
10. Caleb Kendrick
11. Charles Hang
12. Ben Miller
13. Daniel Ma
T-14. Tegan Kapadia
T-14. Oli Clarke

AFA:

1. Ethan Strombeck
2. Natan Holtzman
3. Chris Sims
4. Clark Smith
5. Vincent Du
6. William Golden
T-7. Karan Gurazada
T-7. Raymond Wang
9. Matt Bollinger
10. Alex Gunasekara

VFA:

1. Matt Bollinger
2. Clark Smith
3. Hari Parameswaran
4. Tracy Mirkin
T-5. Caleb Kendrick
T-5. Matthew Lehmann
7. Tim Morrison
8. Annabelle Yang
9. Wiliam Golden
10. Thomas Gioia

Thought:

1. Caleb Kendrick
2. Matt Bollinger
3. Jason Golfinos
4. Clark Smith
5. Geoffrey Chen
6. Bradley MacLaine
7. Matthew Lehmann
8. Vincent Du
9. Michael Bucknall
10. John Marvin

Beliefs:

1. Jason Golfinos
2. Clark Smith
T-3. Matt Bollinger
T-3. Bradley MacLaine
5. Annabelle Yang
6. Chris Ray
7. Lia Rathburn
8. Ned Tagtmeier
9. Caleb Kendrick
10. Natan Holtzman


Thanks to everyone who participated!
Jonathan Shauf
TJ Classical 2020
UNC Chapel Hill 2024

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