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Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
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quizbowlcaptain wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:25 pm Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
aseemsDB is very comprehensive
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Can you pull up the quizbowl packet archive at https://quizbowlpackets.com/?
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Somewhere in the Stratosphere wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:41 pm
quizbowlcaptain wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:25 pm Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
aseemsDB is very comprehensive
That can be used, I'll check it out.
ChrisFromGCity wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 6:36 pm Can you pull up the quizbowl packet archive at https://quizbowlpackets.com/?
Yes, but for studying specific categories it could be difficult.
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flashcarding is only useful as a retention tool and can be done any time. If you have dedicated time available where you can focus on things, it's far more in your interest to try to study topics you want to learn more about in depth (and perhaps prepare tools for retention such as flashcards for review to do later)
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As someone who also had quiz bowl as a class in high school, playing games is the best possible use of that time, especially for novices. Even the most naturally gifted of novice quiz bowl players need lots of gameplay just to become familiar with the canon and how quiz bowl works. And as Andrew mentioned, carding can be done on your own time with as much efficiency, while there isn't really a substitute for actual gameplay on the buzzer.
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Good Goblin Housekeeping wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 8:58 pm flashcarding is only useful as a retention tool and can be done any time. If you have dedicated time available where you can focus on things, it's far more in your interest to try to study topics you want to learn more about in depth (and perhaps prepare tools for retention such as flashcards for review to do later)
joshxu wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 1:50 am As someone who also had quiz bowl as a class in high school, playing games is the best possible use of that time, especially for novices. Even the most naturally gifted of novice quiz bowl players need lots of gameplay just to become familiar with the canon and how quiz bowl works. And as Andrew mentioned, carding can be done on your own time with as much efficiency, while there isn't really a substitute for actual gameplay on the buzzer.
In no way are we planning to completely do away with buzzer practice during our class. I do agree that buzzer practice is great for novices, but our team doesn't have that. We only have 3 players moving up to our HS team next year, and they all have played before (we are all flying back from MSNCT today). Also, everyone on our team is involved with other extracurriculars. This leaves them without much time to study outside of school. We are changing the design of our class to reflect that. We also have a practice session one day a week after school which (most likely) will be strictly used for buzzer practice.
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quizbowlcaptain wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:25 pm Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
AI written questions can maybe be effective... but you need a mirror question (like soemthing from PACE) to help get the questions up to par in order to help you do so... I've tried it to learn more European pm's and it's not bad at all.
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quizbowlcaptain wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:25 pm Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
I'm pretty sure QBReader sources their questions from quizbowlpackets.com. If that's unblocked, you'll probably be able to tap into the same QBReader question database, if you want to use that to card.
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Vainglorious yet Victorious wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 8:26 am
quizbowlcaptain wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 5:25 pm Hello Everyone! I have a question about this upcoming season...

My school has a class at our HS and we are thinking about re-orienting our class to be less focused on just playing questions, and focus more on carding. We unfortunately have a predicament, our school system has blocked QBReader, prohibiting our access to the database. I was wondering if their was an alternative to the QBReader database that we could possibly use. Thank you and Happy Quizbowling!
I'm pretty sure QBReader sources their questions from quizbowlpackets.com. If that's unblocked, you'll probably be able to tap into the same QBReader question database, if you want to use that to card.

I think we are going to do that. Thanks for helping everyone!
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quizbowlcaptain wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 4:27 am
Good Goblin Housekeeping wrote: Sun May 11, 2025 8:58 pm flashcarding is only useful as a retention tool and can be done any time. If you have dedicated time available where you can focus on things, it's far more in your interest to try to study topics you want to learn more about in depth (and perhaps prepare tools for retention such as flashcards for review to do later)
joshxu wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 1:50 am As someone who also had quiz bowl as a class in high school, playing games is the best possible use of that time, especially for novices. Even the most naturally gifted of novice quiz bowl players need lots of gameplay just to become familiar with the canon and how quiz bowl works. And as Andrew mentioned, carding can be done on your own time with as much efficiency, while there isn't really a substitute for actual gameplay on the buzzer.
In no way are we planning to completely do away with buzzer practice during our class. I do agree that buzzer practice is great for novices, but our team doesn't have that. We only have 3 players moving up to our HS team next year, and they all have played before (we are all flying back from MSNCT today). Also, everyone on our team is involved with other extracurriculars. This leaves them without much time to study outside of school. We are changing the design of our class to reflect that. We also have a practice session one day a week after school which (most likely) will be strictly used for buzzer practice.
I think that a useful analogy here is to consider that basketball teams don't spend most of their time in practice just practicing shooting. Studying is like practicing shooting in that it directly leads to getting points, which is how you win, but at the same time it's something that you can and should do on your own, which means that it's not the best use of limited team practice time. Basketball teams, like quizbowl teams, instead use the structured practice time they have together to mimic and work on real game situations.

You mentioned that your team won't have much time to study outside of school because of other activities you have going on. Ultimately, that just means that your team will be limited in how successful it can be, much like a basketball team whose players aren't putting up shots on their own will be limited. In that case, your approach toward quizbowl should prioritize having fun, and playing questions together as a team is going to be a lot more fun than silently memorizing facts in class. Reading and playing questions out loud also has other benefits, both because it helps you understand your teammates and because it provides a way to learn things that is different than what you get by just making and reviewing your own cards.

Every successful team at all levels, as far as I'm aware, uses practice time to read and play questions. I can understand the impulse to try to find a way to use practice time more efficiently, but the best idea is to do what everyone else does because it works.
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Hop on Protobowl. I prefer it to QBReader anyway.
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